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Hello to all of you MGTOW. I don’t get involved too much with MGTOW, but I read your articles from time to time. I can’t say that I fully relate, because I have more or less found that I have come to belong in the MGTOW category. It wasn’t something that I “tried” to fit in to, if that makes any sense. More or less, I have been MGTOW for my entire 26 years of existence.
My Mother was very loving, and so were my Grandmothers. I do not have any siblings, and my parents separated very shortly after I was born. I was back and forth between my Father and my Mother, but the majority of the time I was raised by my Mother and my Grandmother. So really, I was raised in a female household. I contain no hate for my Mother or Grandmother, and do not harbor any negative feelings for THEM, as they were women.
As I grew up, I was the fat, introverted loner who got bullied and ended up being isolated for much of my childhood. As much as I wanted to fit in with my peers, I was rejected, time after time after time. The cruelest bullies were my MALE peers. I wasn’t bullied by females much. But I didn’t have any female friends, either.
As I grew older, I never thought about women much. I didn’t come to the realization that something might be different about me until the past few years. I know that I’m an introvert, a loner, but I also believe that I might fit into the asexual category as well. To be honest, I have never really had a strong desire for female company, nor sex with a female either. There have been a few times that I have attempted friendships with women, but overall, I find it to be exhausting and not very worthwhile for how much effort it takes to succeed with women.
Therefore, that is a brief introduction as to why I feel as if I am MGTOW. It isn’t so much as a personal choice as it is the lifestyle I have always known. Does anyone else here share any similarities to the way I feel about my circumstances?
Anonymous12I have never had the straight up hard sex drive that most guys seem to have. I like women, when I was younger I craved having a girlfriend, someone I could connect with, spend time with and yes have sex with. I need connection of some kind to really enjoy sex. So the idea of chasing women in bars for one nighters never appealed to me and even 20 years ago I was always concerned with false rape allegations and just getting mixed up with headcases.
When I wanted time with women I would hire an escort or go to a brothel. Even lost my virginity to a prostitute. Seemed easier and cheaper in the long run even though it wasn’t my preferred choice. I was also very shy and quiet and lacked confidence and the patience to play the dating games.
Like you I was also bullied as a kid and when I would fight back it was quite brutal. I felt isolated and as a result I never developed the social skills and understanding of social situations like others seemed to do.
I saw women as these incredible creatures, I wanted to believe the absolute best in them, I treated them well when I was around them and it didn’t take me long to realize that they didn’t want to be treated well, unless that was in a material sense. As I got older I started to notice that they were incredibly shallow and self centered, that despite not wanting to see them as whores they did their best to make me see otherwise.
I noticed that when I would confide in them that it often spelled the end of any contact, that when I tried to relate to them that it just didn’t work, but when I didn’t care and just sweet talked them they loved it, they liked my bulls~~~ as again the spotlight was on them.
So here I am at 41 and I have given up, I was even in a strip club a couple of weeks back and I was totally unaffected, women approached me ground up against me trying to get me to buy a lap dance and I just wasn’t interested, in fact I was bored by it. Tried the Sugar Daddy thing, thought I might be able to have some dates and romantic fantasies on my terms, never bothered actually doing it as again the women were self absorbed and despite wanting my money they still wanted it all on their terms.
I’m actually MGTOW though for reasons other than women. I’m MGTOW because society has turned it’s back on Men, especially White men and I no longer want to be bound by what they think a man should be like.
Hey, I see this is an introductions although you do have a few replies but anyways welcome to the community.
I most certainly share the loner not fitting into society with you I was also an introvert although I can’t say I had no interest in girls in my puberty I definitely had a sexual desire but besides the touch and care of another person I just never trusted them and thus besides a few months of longing I just didn’t have any interest in female company just like you so as a fellow loner (see what I did there :P) I will be looking forward to having you in the community so don’t hesitate to participate and share your opinions they’re more than welcome here.
And you don’t have to worry about giving the wrong opinions like you would do (I most definitely did) in society.
Heck if you manage to p~~~ anyone off here they damn well better give you an award I haven’t seen anyone succeed yet, you really have to try hard to do that even trolls haven’t managed.
So success on your journey through MGTOW land!In response to Morlock,
You are so right about modern society turning its back on men, and specifically white men for that matter. In another thread I posted in today, I shared my thoughts about how I felt like such an alien in today’s modern society, but that there was no where else to go to truly fit in or escape the perils of modern society.
I visited a strip club once. I felt terribly uncomfortable. Women approaching me, asking me for dances. That’s not a legitimate interest. They are only coming up to me because I’m in a strip club, where men go to pay women to dance. What a f~~~ing joke. I don’t want to go back to a strip club.
I, too, visited my first “prostitute” in January of this year, just a few months ago. I went to pay for a blowjob. She sucked and sucked and sucked, almost for an hour straight. I kept going soft and never came. She even climbed up and rode me for a short while, and she had an almost instant orgasm. Once again, the whole experience was somewhat creepy and dirty feeling. I didn’t get any enjoyment out of the experience, to be honest.
So really, I don’t know what I want, or how to fix myself. It’s hard being an introverted loner in this society that expects one to be a social butterfly, regardless of how much people are staring at their electronic devices.
Another one of my straight friends commented on how he went to the gay pride festival in Chicago last weekend just to dance with random girls. I would never have any desire to do such a thing. Most men honestly have their jaws drop for any good looking pussy that struts her stuff. I was absolutely NEVER this way, so once again, it’s hard to fit in. I do know, for sure, that I am not a homosexual, though. That I am very confident of, at the very least.
Anonymous12I, too, visited my first “prostitute” in January of this year, just a few months ago. I went to pay for a blowjob. She sucked and sucked and sucked, almost for an hour straight. I kept going soft and never came. She even climbed up and rode me for a short while, and she had an almost instant orgasm. Once again, the whole experience was somewhat creepy and dirty feeling. I didn’t get any enjoyment out of the experience, to be honest.
Yeah I get that. The second time I had sex which was also with an escort she was riding me and all of a sudden she stops and says “Look ma no hands” I was painfully naive and had no idea what she meant. I also didn’t cum myself. Anyway, afterwards I came across her expression in a book (The net was just in it’s early infancy at the time) and I smiled and laughed, I made her cum! lol
I bruised her ego a fair bit actually by not cumming. Kind of funny really. She worked like hell too, even stayed longer than what I had paid for.
It’s good that you are not a slave for pussy. It’s something men have to stop being if they want freedom. That doesn’t mean they have to hate women or avoid them, just not be ruled by their c~~~s.
You are absolutely right. Every single woman I have been with takes it extremely personally that I always get soft and can’t cum. It takes a real hard hit on their ego. I almost enjoy that, somewhat. Finally I get my revenge. But then again, I can’t experience any pleasure as a result, either.
This prostitute also called me “daddy” but was only a few years younger than me. I thought that was odd. I was like “I’m not your dad.”
I believe I explained this to Toad. It’s not easy to sate your sex drive when you’re not a virgin. The minute you get that first real experience that you actually put the work in for, you get stuck with the some what vampiric need for the vagina during the majority of your life. Only those with the strongest of wills or in the most isolated of environments can resist it. Also like I told Toad, I have the utmost respect for people who can fully resist that especially after losing their virginity. Oh yea I didn’t cum during my first experience either so since you mentioned it, I feel like it’s actually somewhat more normal lol.
What about someone who has been with multiple women, such as myself? That “vampiric need for the vagina” has never developed within me. Is it because I experienced it too late? I believe that I was 21 at the time of my first encounter. In my opinion, the whole lead up seems like such an exhaustive routine, that the outcome doesn’t measure up and the whole seems relatively pointless when I can pleasure myself and be done with it in 15 minutes.
That must be the emotionally desensitized loner within me. Most people enjoy the contact with another human. I don’t feel anything when it comes to that. I’m like a rock.
Of course. In short: Im 27, getting women was never a problem, I just didn’t care or found it interesting.
I didn’t have sex, so It’s hard for me to know if I would even like it. Im sure you will find my posts (and posts of people with similar experiences) scattered around the forum’s topics. You are not alone.
S~~~ty that you got bullied man, me and my friend got bullied (he got more physical aspect of it, I was pressed on more psychologically as my mother worked in school).
At one point, we fought back our own bullies: My friend was pushed all day long, atlast he exploded, jumped on one and smacked his head in to the floor couple of times).
My breaking point was: one day a guy talked smack about my mother with his “friends” in front of me, while smirking in my face.
Same day, once I had an opportunity and got alone in class with him, I took the opportunity – on an arms choke. (I was in russian unarmed fighting at the time, and judo years before. I became very confident, but I was the smallest kid in class and never aggressive or fighting, a good kid what got p~~~ed off).
We had way better time at school, enjoying our time and learning, after we fought back. Occasionally, idiots still poked a bit on us, but It was nothing.
Years later, after we finished school, we celebrated it together without the class, as our “F~~~ You” to all, we didn’t arrive at celebration.
Anyway, I wish you all the success in further life, study and graduation.
No matter what happens, live the life and make the most of it.
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In my case, it is just the opposite. I went MGHOW because I have known all too many women. And, I mean ‘known’ in both the sense of having met a few and the Biblical sense. Burnt, burnt again, and again, finally learned not to stick my manly parts into a radioactive wood chipper.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
I believe I explained this to Toad. It’s not easy to sate your sex drive when you’re not a virgin. The minute you get that first real experience that you actually put the work in for, you get stuck with the some what vampiric need for the vagina during the majority of your life
Toad, here!
I was told before my first visit to a hooker that maybe i will become an addict to sex after that…but all the contrary…
Like i said in my introduction, after make a circumcision, using the condom that the hooker gives to me (maybe the cheaper one), after jerking off in my home because if not, they told me “you are going to cum too soon and with this you can hold more time”… nervous, and she making no effort to please me… I remember me in a pathetic way thinking: What is this f~~~ing bulls~~~? what i’m doing here?… i can’t feel anything! and also, remember funny conversations between :
– if you can’t maintain an erection “this game” won’t happen , buddy…
-Well, maybe if you try to move or do something… is not suppose that we should try other position?
– like which?
– i don’t know…maybe you in top of me, or something?
-Well, “sigh” ok…
really hilarious when you think about it, but in this day i feel that i was chasing something that is not worth it. But when a see friends even wasting hundreds of euros visiting girls in different cities only for sex, i always feel like i am losing something for beign a weird man or a psycho because i can’t understand it…
In the future will try again with hookers …or maybe not… Being a MGTOW means that i’m free even for not doing what i want only because i don’t want to do it…
Toad, I understand that. We don’t get pleasure out of the whole sex thing, but still feel as if we are losing out because we are not experiencing it in the way that the vast majority of our peers do. As many say, without sex, there isn’t much to living. So when we don’t get any pleasure out of sex, we start to question life and what the f~~~ it is that we are doing here, since we cannot experience the “greatness” of what is considered the most important part of life for so many.
Have you experienced the “greatness” of sword swallowing? I haven’t and have no intention of taking it up.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
Toad, I understand that. We don’t get pleasure out of the whole sex thing, but still feel as if we are losing out because we are not experiencing it in the way that the vast majority of our peers do. As many say, without sex, there isn’t much to living. So when we don’t get any pleasure out of sex, we start to question life and what the f~~~ it is that we are doing here, since we cannot experience the “greatness” of what is considered the most important part of life for so many.
that’s exactly my ancient thoughts. but don’t you realize that you can see the natural nature of women and the society still tell you that they are perfect?
don’t they tell us that if you don’t get married and have kids you are wasting your life?
Why sex will be a different thing?
Like one friend told me once: the best of having sex is talking about it after… so, do you think that for most of the people is pure posture and not a real necessity?
We can’t know it , because i’m also can’t understand what can drives to a free man to choose slavery through have kids…
i have a huge amount of hobbies and interest what makes almost impossible for me to think in going on free will to sign a paper where i decided to drop all my freedom for the window, only to stay with a human being that i know now her real nature, and have kids to losing my freedom automatically and if she wants, lose my house, my money and even the kid himself… it’s just insane, and they keep telling us: you are doing wrong being single and free??? F~~~ing bulls~~~ liars…
so in order to achieve total awakening, you and i should forget about “what” tells people feels it’s ok, and think about us all the time… you don’t feel nothing?… do nothing…
freedom in all ways my friend…
that’s all
I have absolutely zero interest to get married or to have children and reproduce. But because I’m 26, my elders, including my Father, constantly tell me that I might change my mind someday.
Regardless, I wish that I was more aloof, stupid, uninformed, less self-aware, etc. I feel upset with society and where the way things are headed. I often feel as if I would have fit in better maybe 50+ years ago. But, I can’t change any of that. So what’s there to do? I don’t know. And I sure have a whole hell of a lot of living to get through before I’m done.
By the way, “Das Boot” is one of my favorite novels. The movie made from it is really good too. Two thumbs up for both!
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
Regardless, I wish that I was more aloof, stupid, uninformed, less self-aware, etc. I feel upset with society and where the way things are headed. I often feel as if I would have fit in better maybe 50+ years ago. But, I can’t change any of that. So what’s there to do? I don’t know. And I sure have a whole hell of a lot of living to get through before I’m done.
You are wrong young man.
i was like you at you age, and you will be like me with my age (surely better). You will give thanks to internet for given you a red pill in a proper age. Now that you have information, you can decided what to do and realized, that a lot of people in the world see the reality as how, in fact, is and you will keep your integrity and freedom counting with the support of brothers around the globe supporting you and not like me asking in a forum with 30 years:
What happened? i was a gentleman, treat this girls right, she likes me, she come with me to beach, to restaurants, to take walks, to do sport, to a mountain, i have a house, i have money, i have a car, i am fit, i have muscles, i haven’t vices, i am intelligent, smart, funny, outgoing… i’m….
and they laugh at me:
you have 30 years but you are a childish pussy…you don’t know anything… you should control that young girls and she laughs at you…you are a pathetic “mangina”…
That humiliation stroke me like a hammer… and destroy my ancient “me”…if that would happen at your age i will have time to control my life better… now it’s late and the only i can do is make the time what left me worth to myself and ONLY for myself…
You will do the same because you have all the tools at your range…
trust me…
Anonymous42In my case, it is just the opposite. I went MGHOW because I have known all too many women.
agreed RoyDal, same here, I can no longer “bond” emotionally, spiritually, or physically. My heart’s Velcro was burned and packed with dirt.
It sickens me to this day all the bullying I witnessed and also fell victim to. A kid from my childhood was bullied by the same Ox that bullied me and every one else younger or smaller than him. This kid was quiet and friendly, until he snapped one day and shoved a stake knife in the bullies belly and almost killed him. I can remember my best friend (as we walked by all the flashing blue lights and ambulance) saying “f~~~in good, he deserved it!”, I also remember feeling more compassion for the attacker (knowing what kind of serious trouble he was in). To my discredit, I was hoping the bully would die.
I never f~~~ed with anyone regardless of size or timidness, bullying is a sickness of a sadistic nature.
In my case, I was one of the few who was bullied, and I was definitely bullied the worst, throughout my entire elementary school experience. It is hard for be to believe that such small children could have been so cruel, now that I look at children from the perspective as a grown adult. But, it happened, and I witnessed it. I also never fought back because there was literally no one there to back me up. Even the school staff was biased against me, because so many of my enemies would gang up on me. The administrators always believed the masses, regardless of what lies they spewed.
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