Anybody work in the CS field?

[RobbySpectator 71]

Hi guys, glad you’re all still making it. I just graduated college a bit ago in computer science and am having the hardest time trying to get a job related to CS. I’m looking to find a job where I can continue practicing my programming skills that I’ve worked so much on. Anyone else here relate or have any tips for me? Also thanks again for the warm welcomes, its an honor to be with you all.

[chirParticipant]

Dice.com Good site for getting your name and resume out there.
Spiceworks.com
experts-exchange.com

Did you do any work study or get into any work exchange in college? That’s where you make contacts. Lot of companies make use of these programs to vet potential candidates.

I’ll tell you what I have told a lot of CS students. Learn software project management and study Hindi or Chinese. That’s where most of the computer programing work goes to. Well connected out-sourcers who use H1B visas. What the fortune 500 look for is an American who can speak those languages and keep tabs on projects. Mainly because of the language divides many outsource initiatives are f~~~ed up. Having a programmer who is an American and can speak those languages is 6 figures right out of college.

It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

[BobbyParticipant 140]

I always found work in software development crazy, or more specifically I found recruitment crazy.

1) Regardless of how good you are at writing reliable code, teaching new technologies yourself and smart, managers and recruitment consultants only like to hire people with a list of buzzwords against years of use. Maybe these buzzword touting people are liars or maybe they write bug riddled code. Anyway you can be an Einstein who has the potential to write the best code out there, but you won’t get hired unless your resume/CV is full of buzzwords.

2) Employers don’t like to hire people without experience. At the other end if you look too clever, too old or too experienced managers won’t hire you, because they think you will make them look bad or will be too expensive.

3) The myth that software development pays well and is a good job has led to there being more potential employees than jobs. This suits employers and they can take their pick.

[RobbySpectator 71]

I’ve heard of Dice.com, I’ll look into that. Don’t think I’ll be learning any languages as I’m in need of a job asap but thank you Chir.
That’s a lot of stuff to think about No thanks for the thorough reply. Not telling anybody I’m a MGTOW as that would sound really lame and seem to suggest the opposite of going my own way. Thanks for all that insight, I do have a problem with using my mouth too much and sharing personal stuff with strangers. Anyways, thanks for the lucky wishes, best wishes to you as well.

[RobbySpectator 71]

Yeah it is really crazy, I think if Bill Gates lost his job even he’d have a hard time getting hired, maybe an exaggeration but still. It sad because we software developers have so much potential as we can pretty much make anything you can imagine for the whole internet world.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

I thought you meant controlled substances. My bad.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[StandUpGuyParticipant 334]

Pay attention to this; and do not pay attention to Stealthy’s post; he means well but he knows f~~~-all about this. Moreover, most of the advice you got was bad; I will help you out.

So real quick I have been in the CS biz for over 20 years and have my own consulting company.

1. Start out humble and simple; Tech-Support, Quality Assurance and even Tech-Related-Sales. Basically ANY job that has tech exposure. I know what I am talking about here because this is what I did.

2. Build a portfolio; make a website; some example code that your wrote, whatever you have an interest in doing. Show your stuff!

3. Grow a set of b~~~~; apply for every job you can even if you do not think that you are a fit. Be bold and get yourself out there. So what if you get rejected 1000 times; getting accepted once is enough. Your job is to get a job.

The best advice you got was from the other posts is to use Dice.com; that is where I get my contracts.

Message me if you need more help.

Now get out there and kick ass or you will get your ass kicked by the world.

[Veritech AceParticipant 699]

It gets easier after you’ve got your first job in the field. Unfortunately, there are a lot of newly degreed programmers who couldn’t write a “Hello World” program to save their lives, and employers really don’t want to make an investment training newbies only to have them leave for another job in a year or so. Keep applying and you’ll eventually get something.

I think Marcus’s advice on getting into software development is the best I’ve ever seen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oktOQsM9uO8

[RobbySpectator 71]

Thanks for the tips gents, I’ll let you know if it works out.

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

StandUpGuy wrote:

Pay attention to this; and do not pay attention to Stealthy’s post; he means well but he knows f~~~-all about this. Moreover, most of the advice you got was bad; I will help you out.

So real quick I have been in the CS biz for over 20 years and have my own consulting company.

1. Start out humble and simple; Tech-Support, Quality Assurance and even Tech-Related-Sales. Basically ANY job that has tech exposure. I know what I am talking about here because this is what I did.

2. Build a portfolio; make a website; some example code that your wrote, whatever you have an interest in doing. Show your stuff!

3. Grow a set of b~~~~; apply for every job you can even if you do not think that you are a fit. Be bold and get yourself out there. So what if you get rejected 1000 times; getting accepted once is enough. Your job is to get a job.

The best advice you got was from the other posts is to use Dice.com; that is where I get my contracts.

Message me if you need more help.

Now get out there and kick ass or you will get your ass kicked by the world.

I vouch for 1 and 2 because that is what I did too.

I started out as a wiring technician in machine automation half my qualification and work up to software programmer. All to build experience.

Even though I am paid poorly, I told myself this company is my extended college. What college does not require you to pay study fees and pay you instead?
When I left that company I am an assistant manager with much higher pay. And the job I left for is pays even more.

I also took my laptop in interview to show the codes I can do. What is the interviewer fear? Hire someone that is all talk and cannot do the job.

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

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