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I always wondered what happens to MGTOWs when they get a kid, esp a girl? What do you guys do? Has it made your more or less mgtow?
I have a daughter who is the most important thing in my life. She was the only good thing to come out my marriage (pre-red pill/MGTOW obviously).
I try and teach her to be a objective as possible and to recognise bulls~~~ when it comes to the way different people are treated and that most SJW, feminists, etc. are in it for the attention and/or money. She seems to accept most of it but whether that will make any difference in the long run, I don’t know.
Having a child (boy or girl) doesn’t make any difference (to me) in terms of being MGTOW. As a man I take my responsibilities as a father seriously. The only issue with having children is that women weaponise them to get what they want and use the child as leverage.
As I’ve said a couple of times recently: we, as men, should hold ourselves to our own standards, not the feeble standards of women and that is especially true when it comes to our children.
Would I have had a child if I were already MGTOW?
I honestly don’t know but I wouldn’t have got married so it is probably academic."...reinvent your life because you must; it is your life and its history and the present belong only to you.” It is Your Life, Charles Bukowski.
No kids. Thank God. I hear they are expensive.
I hear they are expensive.
Very.
"...reinvent your life because you must; it is your life and its history and the present belong only to you.” It is Your Life, Charles Bukowski.
You don’t get a kid.
I’m trying to raise my son to be as inquisitive as I was. To ask questions and wonder why things work the way they do. I’d like him to love science like I do, but if he likes music, my brother can teach him guitar, drums, or piano. If he likes the arts, I can teach him art history and let him play with my paints and canvas.
I’ll support him in any healthy pursuit he pursues. I love to learn new things and if it helps him, I’ll be right there with him.
A co-worker recently told me, "If you want to see who someone really is, divorce them." I have found out how true this is. When your wife drops the façade of being the caring partner, you will witness all of the greed, hate, and spite that she has masked. It is truly breathtaking!
No kids. Thank God. I hear they are expensive.
The child support payments in Canada are biblical.
The answer, is no.
I have a boy and a girl. 5 and 4 respectively.
They are epically expensive but the return on the investment is incalculable.The ain’t just ‘kids’ they are people.
It’s hard to fathom what it’s like to have kids when you don’t have them. Observing dads with their kids is like trying to understand sight if you were born blind.
You don’t see what we see or feel what we feel.
It’s alien to you.The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius
I have three of those God-given gifts and I couldn’t be prouder of them. I got them before turning Red-Pill and they’re adults now so their existence has no bearing on my being MGTOW at all.
They know I’m MGTOW and they’re intelligent enough to keep that to themselves, not like someone’s cousin we know…
Having girls hasn’t been a problem to my going my own way either, or staying C~~~-Free for that matter.
They all hated my last girlfriend and if my boy had been able to succinctly formulate and express his opinion back then he would have told me to #IceThatBitchOut.
He recently told me that his girlfriend of 4 years has moved back to her parents, leaving him and his friend/roommate to make up for her share of the bills. While it was sad news for him I, on the other hand, am happy that he’s experiencing his first break-up relatively without damage. I’m hoping he’s learning all he can learn from the experience and move on stronger.
I hope he never gets married but I also hope he has children of his own.
Damn! They need to hurry up and create that artificial womb already! The lives of billions of boys depend on it!Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!I have two daughters aged 6 and 4. I have full custody of them after my divorce.
I really like being a dad. I think there is too much propaganda today that talks about how difficult being a parent is, but in many ways I think it’s easier to be a single dad than to be married. Of course it’s harder in some respects as well but at least I can make daily decisions without having to ask permission from a wife. That takes away a tremendous amount of stress from being a parent.
As my daughters get older, I want to instill a powerful sense of morality and responsibility. There will be no pussy passes in my home. AWALT is true in regards to basic female nature but a healthy upbringing can mitigate a lot of those problems. Then you just have to pray that it sticks.
"Are you loosed from a wife? Do not seek a wife." --Apostle Paul
I agree silver fox.
My problem is that I have to ensure I balance the argument so I don’t denigrate or favour boys over girls.If I tell my son the education system is stacked against him I am inferring that my daughter has it easy.
Tricky but that’s all to come. I need to prepare. But then how do I do that? Probably can’t.
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius
Anonymous43I have 2 daughters. I am not allowed to see them. Their mother poisoned them against me a couple years ago, and a court order prohibits me from communicating with them. One daughter posts pictures on instagram once in a while, and they were both in a nationally known marching band in high school. I see my kids in videos on youtube, 3 seconds of them walking past the camera playing in the parade or half time at a football game.
I was a stay at home dad for 9 years. These kids were my one job, raising them to be intelligent, respectful, and productive. I can not describe how heartwrenching the divorce and the 8 week no contact order was. Moving 2 states away filled me with guilt, sorrow, frustration, anger and feelings of desertion, cowardice, failure. My divorce was high conflict, and if I didn’t leave the situation, either the c~~~ or I was going to end up dead. She attacked me with a knife. I bought a gun the next day.
What is it like having female children while being MGTOW? I feel terrible, that I have made these children that will grow up to be women, and eventually meet a man, marry, have kids and possibly divorce, and wreck another man the way I was wrecked. I have set in motion the doom of two or more men in the future. I can not sit down with my children and explain hypergamy or the c~~~ carousel to them. I’m out.
People tell me I can not be held responsible for what my children do in the future. While the world holds men blameless for what their daughters do as adults, I have to work on setting myself free from that. I think that is a s~~~ sandwich all men with daughters have to eat sometime. My turn is coming.
If I ever meet a boyfriend of my children, I would strongly urge him to run the f~~~ away. Although this may be to the detriment of my own children, I can’t sit by and watch what happened to me play out again. Who know what the future holds for my children. I can delude myself and say the way I brought up my kids will counter millions of years of behavioral evolution, and my kids will be special and not hypergamous. Sadly, All Women Are Like That includes my own children.
In my mind, my kids are stuck where I last saw them, One daughter at 16, trying to master the clutch pedal of a Saturn in a forest preserve road, the other daughter at 13 telling me off in a small town Starbucks on the same day a court ordered me to pay retroactive child support that would make me homeless 14 days later. They are now 19 and 15. They are going one way, and I have gone a different way.
I have zero communications with them, zero input into their lives. I can not offer advice, or help them in any way. I am a $500 monthly check from the Illinois Disbursal Unit. Whatever sense of duty a father has to a child had been cut off and left behind, left for dead on the side of the road. I remember looking at it lying there on the ground and realizing I can’t continue to pine for my children and expect to go forward in my life. I fought so bloody hard to remain in my kids’ lives, and I failed. The poison from the custodial c~~~ and the gynocentric court made me fail. It took years of internal struggle for me to forgive myself for failing, for moving away and having to trust that the c~~~ and her string of Chads weren’t doing damage to my children.
I have good memories of being with my kids, and these memories make me smile. I made sure the time I spent with my kids was fun, educational or relaxing. We played with remote controlled cars at the skate park, went for bike rides, took trips to museums, camping, did homework together, played online games, and sometimes just did nothing together. I made sure they knew they were an important part of my life, they were not forgotten or discarded. I had the anticipation and joy of having them every other Friday evening, and the gut plunging sorrow and rage of putting them into Chad’s truck on Sunday evening. I had to fight every cell of my body telling me to run away with my kids and hide. I discovered what happens when the c~~~ thinks I was trying to run away with the children. Very unpleasant.
People tell me my kids will come back to me. I can only hope so. I hope they are not too badly damaged. I hope they have the courage to come find me.
Tricky but that’s all to come. I need to prepare. But then how do I do that? Probably can’t.
Just tell them the truth as best as you understand it with words and exemples they can comprehand. You’ll be alright.
Kids are ten times more intelligent now than we were at their age. Trust them to come to the right conclusions as to what you tell and reveal to them. Mine haven’t disappointed me in that regard, I don’t see why yours should.Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!I have 6 daughters. They are great.
One understands the weakness in the female character when looking at your daughters but one also comes to appreciate the considerable strengths. The main problem with modern society is that the strengths of female character rarely ever get to be employed outside blood relationships these days and the weaknesses get excused and encouraged.
Women can be very loyal to themselves and what they see as part of themselves. In a normal mentally healthy woman this readily extends to children, parents and siblings (sure there is bitchiness and rivalry there sometimes but also considerable loyalty) the problem is that society and culture do not insist that a woman invests to the required level in a man these days.
Men today get little of the good in a woman and much of the bad -the refusal to be accountable and the selfish drive to extract resources get to run freely when the man is disposable. You don’t get this to nearly such a large extent from your daughters because you are indisposable to them and when you do get it, it is moderated by their deep family loyalty and their actually needing to be OK with you to be OK in their selves because you are part of their whole world.
It is the disposability of men and lack of respect for the clear headed wisdom of men that is the main problem with modern culture. Men do not get to become part of the necessary fabric of a woman’s life. One’s daughters rarely view a father like this and this is enlightening. I have also had a wife from an ancient culture where men are respected and women are treated as effectively daughters to their husbands. Again here I have observed that many of the modern problems with women are eliminated.
Women work best in deeply committed relationships where they do not separate themselves and their needs and wishes from the needs and wishes of their loved ones. Having daughters teaches you this. We complain quite rightly about the faults of women but really it is feminism that panders to the worst in women (the childish ness the selfishness and the unaccountability) and removes the best of them (the fierce almost selfish, nurturing loyalty to their own) that is the problem.
Of course children are expensive and of course they stop you being so selfish and of course having children is a risk with the way women behave these days but only a brave man ever won anything worth winning and believe me the prize of children is worth the striving for, at least it was for me.
A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own
I have two daughters and raised them as a single dad for about 10 years, which included thru the early teenage years.
As a side note, if you want a front row view on blue pill mania, have a couple of teenage daughters growing up in your house.
After high school they went off to college. Truthfully, these years are among the best years of my life…….at least thus far.
In my experience, (and I don’t know much) women are s~~~ty at being girlfriends and wives, but they can be wonderful as daughters.
How can a woman be expected to be happy with a man who insists on treating her as if she were a perfectly normal human being.
I have a 22 year old son. In spite of his idiot mother and the mistakes I made, he turned out pretty darn good.
What is it like having a child? I would imagine it can be different for everyone. For me it was a heart melting experience. This is my child. He is a part of me. I did not feel worthy to be his father. In spite of what I learned from my father, I had no idea how to raise a child. Then I learned my dad didn’t really know either.
Now that he’s on his way to being a man, I’m glad his younger years are behind us and he’s survived and is doing well.
When I was younger, I swore that I would never get married and I would never have any kids. Like an idiot I did both. I only regret the marriage, not the kid.
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
May, your story hits hard each time I read it. That’s a lot to have to live with. My respect goes out to you. And your story is what convinced me to never marry or have more children again. After my divorce I was still entertaining the possibility and was putting some serious thought into Russian or Ukrainian women. Thank God nothing came from that.
I couldn’t even imagine having more kids now. I have the ones I have. I’m done.
"Are you loosed from a wife? Do not seek a wife." --Apostle Paul
I always wondered what happens to MGTOWs when they get a kid, esp a girl? What do you guys do? Has it made your more or less mgtow?
MORE MGTOW, much more.
You realize that women are not just only totally useless but even harmful, even to raise girls.
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It’s hard to fathom what it’s like to have kids when you don’t have them.
You don’t see what we see or feel what we feel.
It’s alien to you.^^^^ this ^^^^
My kids are grown. You’re always a parent, it’s just different when they’ve gotten on their own. Hard to watch them make mistakes but satisfying when you see them figure it out.
Just rolling down the road
I have one son who is soon to be 18. After yet another school shooting, I still worry about him. Hes a good kid and I was very fortunate that his mom and I were determined to stay friends after our split. She and I never married. Raising a kid is hard. Whether youre a father or mother. You have to teach them real values and pray that you did a good job.
I think we did well. My boy has a college scholarship and no criminal record of any sort… I think we did well.
Kids are awesome, but they’re expensive, and I wont be having anymore. One and done!
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