Any advice for someone seeking to become an Expat?

[SlayherParticipant 2074]

Greetings gents,

Given the current social climate of the grand ol USA and my success as a MGHOW, I’ve been giving serious consideration to exploring residing in another country. A lot of the information I’ve found online is very vague and, if anything, seems to discourage such thoughts. (Gee. Shocking) I’d welcome any feedback or information on helpful resources. Thanks in advance.

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

similar situation here, and having similar ideas for similar reasons. I’m considering Belize, Costa Rica and Thailand. My main concerns are warm climate, politically stable and lower cost of living. Depending on your age, you might consider quality of medical care as one of your concerns. Belize and Costa Rica are close enough to get home on a quick non-stop without jet lag, and Thailand now has facilities staffed by American and British doctors and nurses who’ve left their countries over the onerous government involvement/regulations in those healthcare systems.

there may not be specific or encouraging information online, but there a whole communities of American expat’s in those countries for reasons similar to yours.

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[BeerParticipant 11832]

I’m hoping to do the same in about 5-ish years. One thing I’d definitely plan on though is taking a few 2-3 week vacations to check places out before I seriously consider pulling the trigger. I haven’t really dug too deep into the specifics of any one country yet, but the most interesting resource I’ve found so far has surprisingly been youtube videos.

There seem to be quite a bit on there where people take videos of their apartments and places they hang out and eat so you actually get an idea of how much money buys you what kind of lifestyle. Also it seems like you can find a fair amount of them just posted by single dudes unapologetically f~~~ing prostitutes and enjoying life who seem quite content just posting realistic videos about their lives rather than drawing a big viewership or being politically correct.

If you want to get deep into specifics on finances and visas and that kind of stuff though, expat reddit would probably be a good starting point.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Vention (the grandfather of MGTOW) often fancied leaving the homeland. If you’re not familiar with his quest, here are some videos of him. I keep up with Vention, Stardusk and TFM, huMAN too…

I will not leave ‘merka because I like the quality of living here, for better or worse. The healthcare, the fact that there’s a Lowes and Homedepot on every corner. Everything you need is a phone call or 1 mile drive away. Plus, the water doesnt have tapeworms. LOL. The taxes and BS is well worth it IMHO. I’d rather be in prison in America than a free man in most the world… Im not kidding

[BeerParticipant 11832]

BrainPilot wrote:

My main concerns are warm climate, politically stable and lower cost of living.

What would be the ultimate win for me is to call it quits when I’m 40 with at least 1m in the bank, leave my high tax, cold state to go live on a tropical beach somewhere like Thailand where the cost of living is much lower than here, and maybe 5 years later look at my bank account and have more than the day I retired. Meanwhile the typical blue pilled idiot that age back home is probably still in massive debt working his ass off trying to keep the wife happy, if he hasn’t already been wrecked by a divorce. MGTOW ftw.

[DarkRyuParticipant 2354]

Unless you have a s~~~load of money, my advice is: don’t. The grass is always greener on the other side…until you get there. Then you realize that you traded your current problems for a whole s~~~ bag full of other problems. Unless you have the money to insulate yourself from said problems, it’s not going to be fun. Then again, if you have the money to insulate yourself from problems, you probably wouldn’t be looking at going to another country in the first place.

As someone with money it’s very important to keep your wealth diversified and your options open. This is why I have a passport and I’m thinking of getting dual citizenship. I have absolutely no desire to go live in another country permanently, but it might become a necessity in the future. Let’s say our government becomes completely totalitarianistic or Yellowstone erupts. WTF are you supposed to do then? If you have a dual citizenship, you can have your eggs in multiple baskets if SHTF.

[JB BooksParticipant 3182]

DarkRyu is absolutely right. There’s a reason almost everybody else wants to live here. If you spend a couple if months in another country, you begin to see that they’ve got issues too. Lots of places to live in the U S of A…

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[MonkParticipant 17025]

India is a possibility.

Europeans are starting to retire there. In Goa, housing complexes are being built exclusively for foreigners. If you have money, the medical care is excellent.

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

I’m with you and Brain Pilot. I have a close friend who’s been living in Bali, Indonesia for the past 15 years. He took about $200K with him and bought a plot of land and built a nice home and had some money left over. He surfs and works as a surf promoter/photographer to pay his bills.

Costa Rica is not the travel / living bargain it used to be. A lot of Europeans/Canadians/Americans have moved there and have driven the price of land/homes up. They DO have a good/reasonably priced healthcare system, though. I would travel to wherever you think you might want to end up and spend 90-180 days there on a tourist visa.

You could live in the Philippines and marry a 17 y/o asian chick and support her whole extended family. HA.

And yes, sometimes the grass isn’t greener. Might just want to move to Texas and stockpile ammo.

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[SuggestiusParticipant 3312]

I think the most very super main question is ‘What for?’

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[Daryll55Participant 2953]

I have been thinking the same thing. There will indeed be culture shock, and I get a little homesick for my hometown let alone life in the USA.

Been looking at a lot of places, but decided maybe I will stay and ust do extended vacations.

Marry again, Hell NO ! ( Even JESUS was hung on a cross just once)

[SlayherParticipant 2074]

JB Books wrote:

DarkRyu is absolutely right. There’s a reason almost everybody else wants to live here. If you spend a couple if months in another country, you begin to see that they’ve got issues too. Lots of places to live in the U S of A…

Appreciate the excellent feedback and insights. I do love the U.S. and MGTOW has taught me how to survive and thrive in our social and political culture. That said, I just want to find a place where I can live my MGTOW lifestyle in peace. The U.S. is making that a challenge but I’m open to suggestions. I’ll save you all some time: I live in the southeast and want OUT.

[SlayherParticipant 2074]

Solo MAN’S Wisdom wrote:

And yes, sometimes the grass isn’t greener. Might just want to move to Texas and stockpile ammo.

Lol. Too close to the border but will take that under advisement.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Hummm double nationality has its perks (i got double).

Most of latin América country are s~~~ holes, violence, drugs, etc the locals thugs target migrants soo…

Uruguay, costa rica and cuba are of the safest that i know of, dont know about uruguay health care.

If you can get european nationality, islas canarias, warm not soo expensive, quiet, first world (not really), spanish health care… In fact i was thinking moving there my selft.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Or we have some veterans here, you guys could ride sentinel island, kill the locals and live secretly in the forrest for years no one will know.

The spanish did it, the british did it, the french did it, why the hell not?

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[JVBParticipant]

As an expat I’ve lived on 3 different continents and have visited 47 different countries both work and pleasure. Many will disagree but the good ol USA is still number 1 for now.

Most have no clue what they are going to experience when trying to immigrate or live abroad. If you insist on leaving take half the clothes and twice the money you think you may need to last 3 months. I bet it will be gone in a month, the money part that is. Have a return ticket already bought. If you truly feel that’s the place for you then check out 20 others before you decide.

Peace is > piece.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

DarkRyu wrote:

Unless you have a s~~~load of money, my advice is: don’t. The grass is always greener on the other side…until you get there. Then you realize that you traded your current problems for a whole s~~~ bag full of other problems. Unless you have the money to insulate yourself from said problems, it’s not going to be fun. Then again, if you have the money to insulate yourself from problems, you probably wouldn’t be looking at going to another country in the first place.

If you are one of those people that think you can go live abroad for under 1000 a month you’d probably not be all that happy with your standard of living, but if you lived off a 2k a month budget in Thailand compared to the states…in Thailand you can be near a tropical beach, have internet and air conditioning, get a happy ending massage daily, and eat out whenever you want. 2k a month here you’d probably be closer to a sewage treatment plant than a beach, not getting happy ending massages daily, or eating out often unless you enjoy the dollar menu.

DarkRyu wrote:

As someone with money it’s very important to keep your wealth diversified and your options open.

I’d agree…but when I eventually go I’m going to look at it more as extended vacations. I’m not going to buy any property abroad, I’m not going to give up my citizenship or never plan on coming home, and if I got sick of being somewhere or their political climate starts to turn south, I’d just leave.

JB Books wrote:

DarkRyu is absolutely right. There’s a reason almost everybody else wants to live here. If you spend a couple if months in another country, you begin to see that they’ve got issues too. Lots of places to live in the U S of A…

Of course they would, your average social security check is more than the average income in a lot of countries. A “poor” person here is like a solidly middle class life style in a lot of countries. The thing is the number of American’s retiring abroad is also increasing for that very reason. American’s who retire abroad generally aren’t going to live in mud huts like some poor locals, its to expat communities or near touristy areas that are on par with our standard of living, just cheaper.

[Daryll55Participant 2953]

I will not leave ‘merka because I like the quality of living here, for better or worse. The healthcare, the fact that there’s a Lowes and Homedepot on every corner. Everything you need is a phone call or 1 mile drive away. Plus, the water doesnt have tapeworms. LOL. The taxes and BS is well worth it IMHO. I’d rather be in prison in America than a free man in most the world… Im not kidding

You make a good point….
The first time you want a good ole bacon& eggs breakfast might be an awakening. Want a 14oz. ribeye on the grill? F~~gettabouutit !

Marry again, Hell NO ! ( Even JESUS was hung on a cross just once)

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

as for the ‘what for?’ question, I think I can answer that.

Every time I interact with my (American) government, it’s taking money from me, or acting as an obstacle to my efforts to bring money to me. Taxes, licensure fees, regulations on everything I do that are so complicated that the experts I hire and pay to sort them out can’t get it done reliably. My government is 20 Trillion dollars in debt, and they are looking for willing mules to recruit to drag that plow…

Every time I have any interaction with an American woman, she’s looking to take money from me. Free dinners, drinks, community property, alimony, child support, social security, property taxes to fund schools where I have no children….

Lately, every time my phone rings, it’s a recruiter looking to put me to work for some sum of money that they intend to take a piece of for themselves for ‘locating’ me. It was once 10%. Lately, those people want 20-30%, and they do a crappy, unreliable job. Anytime I actually do take one of those work assignments, I end up in a department where I am the strongest link in the chain, and am pulling the dead weight of millennials and women who want to make what I make, but can’t or don’t want to do the work that I do. So their work ends up falling to me, and they end up keeping the pay for it…

I walk down the f~~~ing sidewalk having to glance over my shoulder for the drug addicts and street criminals who are similarly looking to take something from me. In a country with about 4% of the world’s population, we are using about half the world’s illegal drugs. These criminals are currently in an undeclared civil war with the police, and the media has sided with the criminals. I drive on the freeway and have to dodge drunks who will kill me in a crash if I don’t. The government’s solution to that s~~~ show is to disarm me as quickly as they can, and force me to buy insurance that includes the cost of the damage the drunks do…

I got a national media blasting out daily barrages telling me that I am toxically masculine, while simultaneously telling me to “man up”. It is a continuous mass media insult that can never be assuaged no matter how much I might sacrifice. The experience of male combat veterans is a learning point here…

I’m forced to buy insurance whose over inflated price includes an invisible payment for the s~~~ decisions of a bunch of other people who take dumb ass risks, and expect someone else (ME) to pay for the predictable consequences…

So to sum it up: I’m considering being an expat in another country because I’m tired of being the hemophiliac in a country full of vampires.

In a place like Thailand, I can live the rest of my life on what I have already saved, so I can live untaxed by the parasites that have over run my home country. I can leave my saved assets protected in a third country and marry if I choose without having to worry about having them taken from me. And if I have to help her support her family, it’s likely going to still be cheaper than the parasites I am supporting here. Alternatively, I could have a different prostitute every night for the rest of my life for much less than what marriage (to an American prostitute masquerading as a housewife) would cost me here.

In Thailand, when they catch a drug dealer, THEY HANG HIS ASS! And I don’t have to pay taxes to keep him fed and housed. If you smoke and get cancer, that government is not going to confiscate my money to pay for it. If a woman gets knocked up by a chad, it will not be confiscating my money to pay for that either.

Because I don’t take dumb ass risks with my health like drinking and smoking and using illegal drugs, and because I eat and exercise responsibly, I think I could probably afford the Thai rates of what my healthcare costs would be. Those costs are not going to include the built in costs of all the other things here that do not go to providing me any healthcare at all.

A better question for me to ask is: WHY THE HELL NOT BE AN EXPAT?

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

I just returned from a month long vacation with my 21 year old son. A very healing affair.

The only man over 60 I met was in Oslo Norway and was with a Thai woman.

He said that if an older man wants a relationship with a woman the Thai are the only way to go. I’ve been to Thailand and must agree.

I plan to spend a month in Thailand soon. Just to get my groove back.

When I was in Thailand an older german man told me to never trust a Thai to know where you live. He lived like a king on 2K per month.

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