Anti-MGTOW Rhethoric Summarised

[Cipher HighwindParticipant 1144]

One is not allowed to be MGTOW if one has been screwed over by females on account of one’s bitterness, anger, or other feelings.
One is not allowed to be MGTOW if one has not been screwed over by females on account of one’s fear, misogyny, latent homosexuality, sexual frustration, or other feelings.

Thus say our opponents.

Opposition to MGTOW is merely the skilled use of non-falsifiable feelings as red herrings. Accusing one of harbouring such feelings is merely a tactic to put them on the defensive. While one should remove one’s self from whatever imperious t~~~ or mangaina that would tell a man his private business, if one cannot, the best defence is a good offence: “I’m sorry you feel that way.”

It is nebulous and non-specific as “that way” is not defined, therefore, it is impossible to effectively rebut. It also relies on non-falsifiable feelings as the basis of the argument.

[UntamedParticipant]

Yeah, I’m gonna ask for their permission to tell ’em “Thanks but no thanks”

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Cipher!! Today I happened to notice that you are user number 116 on our website. You’ve been here since practically DAY ONE – before we even made a single footprint!! I was just blown away to discover that. You’re MGHOW of the day today – proud to say. I think we should even make it the whole weekend! A real pleasure to call you a member. Wish I could shake your hand.

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Back on topic….

Cipher Highwind wrote:

Opposition to MGTOW is merely the skilled use of non-falsifiable feelings as red herrings. Accusing one of harbouring such feelings is merely a tactic to put them on the defensive. While one should remove one’s self from whatever imperious t~~~ or mangaina that would tell a man his private business, if one cannot, the best defence is a good offence: “I’m sorry you feel that way.”

Yes another effective way to handle it (where the best defence is a good offense) is to say: “Happy to disappoint you”.
They think they are criticizing but they are ACTUALLY complimenting.

Here is a classic example used in a response not even 10 minutes ago:

@RatchetLiving Thanks! Any man who disproves "men are stupid" (http://t.co/NWAHFaRzWF) would appear 2 have a "high ego" Happy to disappoint
— MGTOW.COM (@TheMGTOW) August 9, 2015

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

I value going my own way over compromising it for the sake of having a woman.  That line of reasoning doesn’t fit.  For myself to have a woman, she would have to develop ESP, read my mind, and show up as what I want, and bother with that, because I refuse do that to get a woman.  I am not playing that.  Let women play that.  It just happens I end up MGTOW by how I live, and what was said doesn’t fit.  Is it ok, for example to expect a woman to NOT have an STD, like AIDS?  And a dozen of other things also that seem reasonable?  I also like to know now, where the heck they want me to fit a woman in my life now, and at my age, if they expect me to have the kid leave the home when I am in my 70s.  Do they expect that?

The thing here is that men can end up going MGTOW, or be around it, for reasons you described.  But that doesn’t mean most (or all) MGTOW do.  If you want to counter it, you can ask them if they seriously think that all men going MGTOW do it for the reasons they describe.  And if they say yes, you can press them to ask them why the purpose and meaning of everyone’s lives is supposed to be to mate and have children.  That is what is being said there, when they end up questioning it, and arguing.  The argument is: Your purpose in life is to procreate and have kids and raise them.  You can question why they think that.  That is the core of all that.  You can do a lot with it, but I would rather not waste my time on that.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Mango IngawayParticipant 2264]

For people who need men like a fish needs a bicycle, they sure whine when we’re not there for them, lmao.
Anyway, who cares about their opinions? All they say can be summed up in two words: “muh feelz”

It is a common failing of childhood to think that if one makes a hero out of a demon the demon will be satisfied.

[RoyDalParticipant]

@Cipher Highwind,
You nailed it! (Which is another way of saying I totally agree with you.)

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[RoyDalParticipant]

Mango Ingaway wrote:

For people who need men like a fish needs a bicycle, they sure whine when we’re not there for them, lmao.

I have often wondered why on earth a bicycle ever needed a fish? Now, don’t get me wrong. I am a big fan of fish — when properly cooked with an interesting sauce — but there is no way I want a fish’s oozings and excretions all over my prized bicycle.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

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