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Greetings Brothers!
Been reading and lurking and soul searching for about 10 days now. I have always been naturally somewhat red pill but did let the white knight tendencies and the thoughtless following of social convention to suck me into a 25 year marriage.
Now, I am almost free and currently setting up the rest of my life. Looking at the array of MGTOW alternatives and working out what is best for me.
Findings about marriage:
These are my findings, with the one girl i married, just another slice of data.
1- As soon as the kid(s) came along, my male needs and interests became entirely irrelevant. (after having a great time before that biking, hiking, skiing, mountain climbing, working out, going out, ect ect, with the one I thought was “the one”)
2 – All funs stops (unless i went on my own)
3 – She did not even notice how much I hated the marriage. Do not think it mattered to her.
4 – I supported her needs, listened to her stories when she felt slighted by life. In return, she made it clear that being a man, i was not to have any struggles. Even though life was basically a waste of time slaving for house and family and being pretty much a wall ornament. (well except all my own fun)
5 – My job was to pay bills, her job was to pay for shopping. (of course garbage i did not want, dining room sets, multiple patio sets, lol all expensive garbage)
6 – She got upset all time about things that I could not give a crap about. I eventually just lost interest. Only so many times you can fake caring about how the dish washer is supposed to be loaded lol. A mystery i still don’t get.
7 – She put down all my friends. (her friends are all colossally useless but they can ratatat for hours saying nothing).
My reactions:
1 – About 10 years ago, i just starting living my own life and considered the house a place I just slept in, without really talking to her much unless she came looking for me. I never cared for being inside much. (and thought she didn’t either)
2 – I was red pill, in that I kept doing the things I loved although to a much lower volume. So concerts, biking, skiing, working out, ect, ect, ect.
3 – I cut back a little on my super ambitious career. I knew she was getting half anyway. I still covered the bills but did not need to pile up the cash.
Conclusion:
If I LTR’d again it would be the same. Plus now at my age, no way I will be able find someone who wants to keep their feet underneath them and stay outside of what I hate most. Houses.
So My Plan: (after thinking loads)
1 – No LTRs
2 – I might hook up from time to time but I won’t hide my thoughts about how I want to live and it is not coming home at 6pm, eating and siting on the couch or fixing up the house. Pretty sure that will run most women away pretty fast.
3 – I certainly won’t be date apping or any of that crap.
4 – I will not do diner parties unless it is as a single. (so hard to sit around and listen to blue pills)
5 – No shopping other than necessities and not one second listening some friggen dame trying to get my approval telling me how brilliant she was selecting those shoes, or those plates at 20 percent off. I am strictly a never in a store guy.
6 – I will remain socially and emotionally supportive to the women that do stay in my life, either as part time baggers or as friends or most commonly women who are trying to change my mind about how great being in a relations~~~ is. How they are different.
7 – If a women complains, she will hear it from me. Sure mock me because my slap shot sucks or my haircut is 9 dollars but dont bug me about nonsense.
8 – I will mostly ghost in terms of spending and other similar areas. I like the MGTOW views on society and put as much of that into my life as I can. (of course this means when a woman see’s my income and then can’t understand why I live in a small place with no bulls~~~, why i do not spend my cash, they will all be about how they can change me. lol, have fun bitches)So that is it, I really am trying to not be p~~~ed off about the time I wasted. Life is awesome, I am free. Sadly we all have this desire to connect with a partner, I really can not get rid of that. I think about it a lot. This is why MGTOW is so important. Because you have to keep reminding yourself what is really going on. You have to avoid slipping down the wrong path. You have to realize when you feel that pang of love, it is the forbidden fruit that can take away everything.
I am glad I had to chance to experience what I experienced. I am smarter and stronger for it. Plus the girl I married was better than most and my story is not that bad.
Also Sandman, I raise a pint to you. You have thought it through very well and save many of us the extra time it would take to think it through ourselves. I love the model you have created. (But yeah i prefer to avoid the negative sides, and word selection, that comes out in some of the reasoning, and just accept it is a product of deep ancestry)
Great website, I will be reading a posting and trying to keep my head straight.
Let the good times roll
Welcome home brother!
Sadly we all have this desire to connect with a partner, I really can not get rid of that. I think about it a lot.
There’s always escorts my friend and welcome to mgtow.
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Anonymous0Welcome home, BlakeGuy
Pull up a chair and relax
You’ll fit in just fine around here.Welcome!
Your in the right place.
Enjoy!Nice to have you with us, BlakeGuy. Have a seat, and watch the fireworks.
When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.
Welcome home, brother.
Also:
multiple patio sets
The fact that you specify multiple is all the proof I need for tuna-safe dolphin.
F~~~ patio sets.
"Almost the main work of life is to come out of our selves, out of the little dark prison we are all born in... The danger is that of coming to love the prison." ~ C.S. Lewis
Welcome aboard bro.
Tip them on there heads and there all sisters
THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
Welcome, @blakeguy.
– I just picked a few tips from what you posted above. Looking forward to future posts from you.
My brother make you no follow sheeple o. Look them and Go Your Way.The fact that you specify multiple is all the proof I need for tuna-safe dolphin.
F~~~ patio sets.
lol, we had 4 patio sets, i moved then every year in and out of the shed, moved them between houses a few times. Always bitched about it. The only time i sat on one of them was to take a break when moving them.
Was funny when we sold, she said to her lawyer “we can figure out how to split the things we own” my answer was “well i will take my golf clubs, skis and bike, the rest we sell and split the proceeds. If you want to buy it from me fine, otherwise we sell.
Let the good times roll
Welcome, BlakeGuy. The old joke here for married men was: “Home is where I hang my head.”
Thank you for the insight. As someone who was married for only 5 years, it is interesting to see what would have likely happened if we had stayed together longer. Sounds like you kept your freedom as best you could, before obtaining complete freedom. Great read.
I like your plan of action!
Welcome brother.Almost a month now since starting reading this website. I think about it every day. What to do?, there are several items that all link in. If you go entirely mgtow, well then you can spend a lot less on housing, clothes, furniture and even on cutlery. You can really set up a simple life style and just save more cash and retire earlier. However, you see all the fresh tuna parading around (ok not so fresh) and you ask yourself if you want to play a little and have a classic bachelor pad designed for a little show. What I am thinking is that I have to give mgtow a chance and just avoid chatting up the fish completely. It means i can focus more on travel plans.
Mostly when i look at a woman now, i immediately see the long train of cost and drama. I ask myself if this one would actually want to have a fun life. But yeah that is chasing unicorns i know. Then I ask, “can this one have fun for like 2 months”. But then you are going in as a scam artist knowing that you will spend more time on exit maneuvers, than you spend on building your future.
One of the problems is that you can’t just ask a guy if they want to go see a movie or if they want to go for a walk. You have to know a guy for a while before you can do those things. Reading the website helps but it is not really the same as a conversation. So i ask those of you who have had to rebuild a social life, how did you do it? it is so easy to just go on match.com and find someone to go to a movie with, but yeah it is all fake.
Let the good times roll
Welcome read,enjoy, post, rage whatevery you want to do.
Aloha means family you don't leave family behind. Who will be the next Draconarius for MGTOW? MGTOW = brothers = acceptance = belonging
Great post BlakeGuy. I recently divorced after 10 years of slavery and share many of your experiences except my ex was totally nuts. I am glad you are now free – the start of your new life. welcome home.

Anonymous3Welcome BlakeGuy.
Your introduction was great! You have a clear mind and I see myself in many things you said.One of the problems is that you can’t just ask a guy if they want to go see a movie or if they want to go for a walk.
It is interesting that you raise the question. We had some posts about it lately.
I would say that unless a guy has good friends that are single, then he his bound to be alone some of the time.
That single issue scares many a married men, preventing them to escape their misery.
However I would say that it is better to be alone (all one) than lonely with someone. We are lonely when married exactly for what you said:i just starting living my own life and considered the house a place I just slept in, without really talking to her much unless she came looking for me.
This ^^^^^ is something every young men should read, to understand how can we be alone while married.
Its easy, since they dont care for anything about us except our utility, then we end up being “transparent”. Its the life of a slave zombie.So, why are you worried? Even if you are alone, you have the company of the only person that really cares about you: yourself.
To be ALL ONE is finally to be complete.
Welcome brother & thanks for the insightful intro. And i’m glad you’re getting the hell outta there.
we all have this desire to connect with a partner, I really can not get rid of that. I think about it a lot
One thing to consider: partner dance classes. Tango, ballroom, something like that. You connect with a lot of chicks, it’s fun to do, and it’s a good social routine to build up a social circle. Plus if you don’t like a chick you’re dancing with, you can dance with another one in a couple minutes.
Ditto volunteering at a soup kitchen or animal shelter.
It makes me wonder what the hell happned? Did women change? OR have they always been this bad in a relationship?
I swear to god, I always hear the same s~~~…
” I like Hiking”… (at the mall)
” I like Honesty” (Cuz I don’t have any)
” I want a active man” (so I can brag to my friends)
” I want to do things like restore a car” (Buy ME A CAR!)
Yea, that pretty much sums up what they tell you they want to get you in the picture.
Then its nothing but bait and switch.
I’m glad your doing better. I hope all goes well.
You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home
Welcome bro no judgement here everyone has similar stories to share try TFM and bar bar if you like Sandman.
Aloha means family you don't leave family behind. Who will be the next Draconarius for MGTOW? MGTOW = brothers = acceptance = belonging
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