"Another bit of tripe" – response

[ironheartParticipant 942]

This is for the two women who produced the talk show at the link below. I have no doubt that you and other curious feminists want the answers to the questions you asked. I also have no doubt you cruise these forums looking for answers you do not want to hear.

If you are prepared to actual get the answers you wanted and seriously try to understand this movement, see below………

http://people.howstuffworks.com/movement-that-has-men-dropping-out-society-in-sexodus.htm

I appreciate that you two ladies made something of an honest attempt to describe what MGTOW are. But you got the ideals and practices of the movement (in so much as there is one) very wrong.

MGTOW is made up of many diverse opinions and beliefs. The primary thing that most of these men have in common is that they have been horribly treated or been exposed to the worst form of human beings out, which is (apart from ace-murderers) the supposedly liberated woman and their poorly raised offspring.

Most of us come from male sensibilities, which women have rejected. In doing so those women have rejected an equal seat for men at the table of life. Women by and large hate all things good that men have accomplished, and we are well aware of that jealousy.

We are not a cult, and in fact have no real leader. I know that is confusing for you, but men are used to bonding without any particular need for a leader. As long as we find common voice in what we are trying to describe, that is enough to define what we can be. Mutual respect among men exists because we easily identify with each others wounds and struggles. The difference is that we are not victims. We try to improve the world when we see bad things, and feel no need to tear down our “sisters” when we go out and do whatever needs to be done.

Most of what we have lost, we have lost because of the hatred, abuse, and lies of women.

We have lost our positions as fathers in the family unit. Whether by bytchery or use of the legal system, women have denied men their role as actual fathers (which is different then being simple bread winners).

Our opinions and rational on what makes a working society no longer has any worth, unless it agrees with what women want. When men disagree or put forward valid rational and proof based arguments on how Neo-feminism and female culture is usually wrong about something, then men are accused of being misogynistic or worse. In doing so, the feminist completely reject everything male-like.

We have lost our right to be right.

What our modern society has is nothing less than an outright war on men. We as men have been relegated to third-class citizens, unless of course we are the Chad of your dreams.

The grand delusion that is female driven society has so many warning signs as to how it will fail, the list is too long to get into in a simple letter. Again however, everything a man points out about female failings will be seen as misogynist – so it will never be heard in a way that allows for real social debate. Women are never wrong according to feminism, and are always better than men, so such debates are apparently “racist” or some other BS us versus them declaration.

So you see the crux of the problem is that feminism and is supporters (including the Chads and Manginas) have hijacked the western world and turned it into their own special little version of “Barbie and Ken play house”, which leaves little room for real world debate of any kind.

We have lost our right to have a voice. As soon as try to have one, we are attacked, exiled, shamed, destroyed and rejected by mainstream politically-correct media and social movements. We are no longer people, and feminism has made that quite clear.

When you ask “what world do you live in that men see things this way?” the answer is obvious.

You live in a woman’s world of lies and manipulation of each other. Men live in a world with a want of accomplishment but with no bulls~~~. Something which all men know women hate us for. Both for having the minds and determination to see a reality, and the creativity to engineer and actively build it.

Most importantly, we have lost our place in protecting and defining who we are as a culture.

All man speech is labeled as hate speech. We are told to sit down and shut up “because we are just a man”. Well frankly, f— you and all your brethren on that one. As a gender you are rarely as right about things as you think you are, and most feminist supporters will push for things that make no sense.

That is why you wanted to elect a female President, even though it is clear she is as horrible as the choice that men were forced to select in order to keep her type of evil out of the White House. Trump is a creation of all the hate and division that feminism has built with its false accusations. Anger begets anger, and baby you got Mr. Rug because Ms. Bytch was even less worth the spit.

We also lost the right to define love and the basis of a working relationship.

No relationship is about equality any longer. It is about women who try to take charge of the relationship by lies, manipulation, shame, tears, emotional abuse, and a dozen other unethical practices. You wonder why PUA preach that men should dump women after three months? Well that is about the time when a woman stops being nice and intimate, and starts to be pushy, controlling, and hateful.

The sad reality that all of this leads to is many men living alone. They simply do not want to have a life of unhappiness and abuse. That life almost always ends in divorce court and unjust treatment when a man does something that “the girls” do not like.

The real hard painful truth about all of this is that the majority of western women are simply not compatible companions with anyone but themselves. Men know it, and MGTOW will not longer tolerate it.

Women have spent decades trying to create an illusion that they chase and insist on having. To women nothing else is acceptable. When the illusion is realized for what it is, women always blame men instead of themselves. Like spoiled teen age girls, they take responsibility for nothing.

So our civilization is doomed to failure if it stays on the current road it is going down. All because of gynocentric chauvinism and feminist hate that can never be satiated or satisfied without the destruction of men.

That is the world we see. That is the real world. That is your world now.

There is very little left to save. But as men, we will bite our lip and go about doing what we can to save it. I am sure most of you will do the opposite.

Good luck with that.

"Women have become so full of hatred that they are blind to reason and humanity. That which they practice will be the end of humanity, long before any war that men may fight.." "Women are predators by nature. Why else do you think they are so quick to gang up and go after a man they hate for showing any sign of weakness?"

[Anonymous 7]

Well said. Bravo.

Currently I have a good friend that is Purple Pill. Poor f~~~er is married and hates it.

Recently I suggested he prepare a ‘the one phone call was made’ bag and store it at my place.

He laughed it off.
I love this dude (no homo) more than my remaining family.

Horses and water I guess.

[BigvernParticipant 1983]

ironheart wrote:

Mutual respect among men exists because we easily identify with each others wounds and struggles. The difference is that we are not victims.

Very good point,……ironheart

ironheart wrote:

We try to improve the world when we see bad things, and feel no need to tear down our “sisters” when we go out and do whatever needs to be done.

Isn’t that the TRUTH,……

ironheart wrote:

Men live in a world with a want of accomplishment but with no bulls~~~. Something which all men know women hate us for. Both for having the minds and determination to see a reality, and the creativity to engineer and actively build it.

YEP!!, They are so JEALOUS, of OUR B~~~~,……

ironheart wrote:

Most importantly, we have lost our place in protecting and defining who we are as a culture.

F*UCK THEM

ironheart wrote:

As a gender you are rarely as right about things as you think you are, and most feminist supporters will push for things that make no sense.

YEP!

ironheart wrote:

That is the world we see. That is the real world. That is your world now.
There is very little left to save. But as men, we will bite our lip and go about doing what we can to save it. I am sure most of you will do the opposite.
Good luck with that.

Like I wrote before,……F*CK THEM.

"What made you think, there'd be a livin' in sheep?, Eat, Work, Eat Work and Sleep" - Mark Knopfler.

[Anonymous 3]

thank you for writing that…they dance in quicksand and refuse
the hands that could save them…

[xanthineParticipant 4903]

At the end of the article, they say they “hope it is just a temporary phase”.

I guarantee you it will not be temporary. It will not be temporary because they cannot admit what the real problem is. They can’t even say it.

If they can’t even admit what the problem is (it is them) then nothing will be done to fix it. If nothing is done, it will keep getting worse, and men will keep going their own way.

In the end women will completely lose. They will lose their male providers, guardians, nurturers, and companions. Men, on the other hand, will be just as well off without them, if not better.

I’m just gonna keep watching and enjoy the show. I am happy with my life. I see where mine is going, and i also see where theirs is going. I know exactly what will happen, but they won’t see it until it completely crushes them.

[RemovedParticipant 4676]

Very well written. I would say this could be put on a professional edition, that would better enlighten the masses that seem to confuse us as an awkward group or phase.

[Mad MonkParticipant 16]

xanthine wrote:

I guarantee you it will not be temporary. It will not be temporary because they cannot admit what the real problem is. They can’t even say it.

Precisely. It’s entirely inconceivable to them, that they could be so wrong about so many things, and that they are in fact setting up the conditions for their own misery.

Moreover, not only are the men here smart enough to see that this is not some sort of ephemeral, teenage-angst-style phase, but more and more men wake up to reality every day. When everything that is valuable in a relationship except sex (and even that in many cases) is removed from the equation, the only thing left is meaningless sex, and that can be found in many places. It can also often be found cheaply, and without all the unnecessary drama and headaches. To put it simply, the juice is not worth the squeeze, and many men are finally understanding this.

[ScarberianMPTGLParticipant 3286]

xanthine wrote:

At the end of the article, they say they “hope it is just a temporary phase”.

I guarantee you it will not be temporary. It will not be temporary because they cannot admit what the real problem is. They can’t even say it.

If they can’t even admit what the problem is (it is them) then nothing will be done to fix it. If nothing is done, it will keep getting worse, and men will keep going their own way.

In the end women will completely lose. They will lose their male providers, guardians, nurturers, and companions. Men, on the other hand, will be just as well off without them, if not better.

I’m just gonna keep watching and enjoy the show. I am happy with my life. I see where mine is going, and i also see where theirs is going. I know exactly what will happen, but they won’t see it until it completely crushes them.

Although I am still relatively young, I hope I’ll still be around when the day comes that women realize they’re f~~~ed beyond all hope. It will be so awesome and the ultimate justification of our leaving them behind. Oh, they will beg, they will plead, they will blame men, and maybe they’ll get a few white knights left over to help but ultimately they’ll be well and truly f~~~ed. But we’ll be long gone by then.

I, Lelouch Vi Britannia, command you, all of you, to Go Your Own Way!!

[BoarParticipant]

ironheart wrote:

We have lost our right to have a voice.

Fortunately, the empty chair still speaks volumes…

Untamed wrote: Quit complaining and Go Your Own Way in whatever manner suits you best.

[xanthineParticipant 4903]

I dunno man…i think that time could come a lot sooner than we all think. But even if it doesn’t happen quickly, you can be almost certain that it will gradually continue to get worse. Most women today are already miserable, especially as they get older.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

They always claim MGTOW are “dropping out of society”. Where the f~~~ are they getting that s~~~ from?

MGTOW aren’t dropping out of society.

We’re just not paying for it any more.

So long as they fail, or refuse, to understand MGTOW, they will be incapable of dealing with MGTOW.

And they will never understand MGTOW.

But that is not our problem.

[Fr JackParticipant 926]

ironheart wrote:

We are not a cult, and in fact have no real leader. I know that is confusing for you,

This must annoy the hell out of the feminists and their flying monkeys, MGTOW exists, but not in any hard copy, analogue way. There is no grand poobah, no head office, no published MGTOW manifesto, no set of rules that MGTOWERS must follow to claim membership. We are not MRA’s or PUA’s, or sad lonely fat guys living with mum. They want so much to be able to catergorise us, to put some kind of label on us, to put a target on us, but they can’t, and this must scare them, because the hardest enemy to fight, is the one you can’t even see.

[ironheartParticipant 942]

xanthine wrote:

I dunno man…i think that time could come a lot sooner than we all think. But even if it doesn’t happen quickly, you can be almost certain that it will gradually continue to get worse. Most women today are already miserable, especially as they get older.

Unfortunately my instincts agree with yours. When the phony anger that femnazis has stirred up in the society explodes, the damage to mankind will be a bad year. The only possible benefit is that the femnazis make themselves look like the true hate filled puss bags they are, and end up rejected by the rest of the sheep.

"Women have become so full of hatred that they are blind to reason and humanity. That which they practice will be the end of humanity, long before any war that men may fight.." "Women are predators by nature. Why else do you think they are so quick to gang up and go after a man they hate for showing any sign of weakness?"

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