Anita Sarkeesian isn't even a good feminist.

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  • #282313
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    Unbelievableyetnot
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    Lets see how well she does as a feminist.

    In her video; Lingere is not armour:

    Anita asserts that female video game characters are for presumed straight male players, based on nothing but the character design. Erasing lesbians, bisexual women, gay males,genderqueer people and so on. This is based on the notion that men are inherently more visual and sexually explicit in their tastes. Women’s tastes are better, see? More romantic and wholesome. So once women are sexualized, only straight males can be interested in that, according to Anita. She doubles down on this by making a mock video of a (badly drawn) male character getting out bed naked and in shower etc. A direct mirror of an advert of the game Perfect Dark that features the protagonist of that series portrayed by a model. Anita states how completely ridiculous the male version is on it’s face, and states explicitly, that such a thing shouldn’t exist., to justify her point that the female version shouldn’t exist. Showing her inherent interest in censorship.

    Sarkeesian then goes after Bayonetta, calling her a sex object pandering to the male gaze. I’m sure Anita is aware that Bayonetta was designed by Mari Shimazaki (female). Anita has called the character a “fighting f~~~ toy” on twitter. Liana K, a feminist cosplayer, has stated to derive empowerment from Bayonetta and has called Anita’s statements slut shaming by proxy. If she can’t shame real people, the next best thing? Shame the characters they see themselves in.

    Anita tries to refute the idea that it is shaming, as fictional characters have no agency and are designed, and have no will of their own to choose what they wear. Like a doll. This leaves the previous point unaddressed and is a reductive, anti artistic criticism. That’s like writing out her favourite character unceremoniously, and her protesting, and me responding, “What are you upset for? The character doesn’t really exist. She’s just lines and ink right? By your own words.” Furthermore, she can’t even keep her argument consistent. In the same video she talks about characters being forced to wear these clothes as if characters can protest.

    She says women are dehumanized by this sexualization, which is straight out of Andrea Dworkin’s anti pornography tirades. Anita seems to think women and men are hive minds, as she also states that men can’t identify with these female characters on the level of human beings. She states that it teaches men that they can have access to female sexuality whenever they want, and as a reward. She provides no evidence for this claim of male entitlement.

    This leads to her most regressive and misanthropic argument: The male gaze has the power to nulify female sexual empowerment and that the two are mutually exclusive. Only in fiction though apparently. See Anita wouldn’t dare make this statement about women in the real world, but, the two cross over. Pasted youtube comment:

    ZombiiChixx1 week ago
    As a woman who is empowered by her sexuality, it really p~~~es me off that Anita feels the need to talk down to me and tell me what I am doing is inherently wrong and dangerous. To me, its harmful that she assumes that all male gamers only have an invested interest in a female characters looks, and not their actual character. Anita just loves shaming male sexuality :/?

    An empowering female character can’t attract the male gaze. Anything that attracts the male gaze is not empowering by default. Regardless of the character’s other actions. Anita regularly cites very well written and strong female characters overall and calls them sex objects. For example “The Boss” from the Metal Gear series.

    Then she said it’s time to look at how to show female sexuality without sexualization. So, I thought great. Lets see what designs she counts as sexy but not sexualized. After all, she was talking about that.

    Then she lists examples of female characters propositioning others for sex. An underage lesbian couple, and a proposition over the radio. Interesting that the only heterosexual interaction she chose, the woman can’t be seen at all.

    Therefore, she directly compares wearing skimpy clothes with a sexual proposition. She literally argues; Don’t dress up your female characters in skimpy clothes, have them proposition people for sex instead, cos that shows agency.

    She’s only bringing up that alternative, a sexual proposition, because these characters are skimpy. She would not bring that up if they were wearing 3 piece suits.

    So it literally is a pro rape argument, “Look at what she’s wearing, she was asking for sex…. so just have her ask for sex!!”

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    Anonymous
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    And more importantly… she isn’t even a good human being.

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    THERE’S NO SUCH THING AS A GOOD FEMINIST.

    When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

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    Depends on what standards we’re using. I’m judging Anita based on the standards feminists use themselves to see if she even passes that low bar. She does not.

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    That bitch is so retarded and has no business talking about anything video game related other than maybe angry birds on mobile. I remember someone called her out on her opinions of games and all the ones she did like were f~~~ing children games.

    Feminist c~~~s like machinosh, anita, and their ilk all want children games because they are too f~~~ing infantile to handle something even teens may like.

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    Blue Skies
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    she’s the women that claims that everything is sexist, everything is racist, everything is homophobic….
    see for yourself in this video
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    MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

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    She also subscribes to a particularly cult like, Marxist, anti choice feminism. Where only the choices of the collective matters.

    2:22 onward.

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    I’m so glad that Anita is just a random clam on the internet who has no political power.

    She has a huge fanbase of f~~~ing cat ladies … but none of them have any authority over me.

    I’m gonna go watch some videos by Mr. Plinkett because I can.

    “Rape Jokes! I love em!”
    – Mr. Plinkett

    MGTOW: because you can (and should) say anything about a woman as long as she isn't within earshot

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    i cannot state how little i care about her or what she has to say.
    an atom is like a universe compared to my opinion of her.
    nothingness.

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    She reminds me of a rat that ate all my candies I had saved from Halloween at the cottage.

    Nothing personal. I am sure she is a sweetheart.

    I just don’t trust her because she looks like a rat that ate my candies from Hallow…..

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    couldn’t care less what she says but the manginas in the gaming press act like she is the Second Coming which leads to pressure on developers to shoehorn female characters into games which p~~~es me off

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    CatsPaw
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    Anita is making money from conning females into feminism.
    She is not a good feminist nor a good anything, she is just doing it for money.
    The same reason we get people into government, and thats why they make natural allies, because their goal is to have more than the others.

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    Uintatherium
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    I remember back in the 2000s a lot of guys online were saying stuff like “I wish more women played video games.”

    Well … look what happened. We let women into they gamer community and now they are the f~~~ing gamer community. Careful what you wish for eh?

    History tells us that bringing women into your favorite hobby won’t lead to romance or anything like that. It will only ruin your favorite pastime. Lots of idealistic teenage boys don’t realize that. This process will probably continue until every manly hobby has been feminized and bro zones are nonexistent. Great … now I’m thinking about one of the Homestar Runner Halloween specials!

    King of Town: I’m a video game!
    Marzipan: I don’t play video games so I wouldn’t know.

    Those were the days right fellas? Remember when women saw video games a stupid boy thing? Remember when video games were a big part of male-bashing jokes? Remember when the gaming community was manly because women didn’t want to be a part of it? Remember when “gamer chicks” were something special? The 2000s man. F~~~ I miss that decade.

    We let women into the gaming community because we were sick of the normals calling us “gay babies”. In practice, it was like swallowing a tapeworm. The gaming community is respected now … but it isn’t our community anymore.

    R.I.P. Gaming Community: 1972 – 2015

    MGTOW: because you can (and should) say anything about a woman as long as she isn't within earshot

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    It’s because she isn’t a feminist. She’s a con artist that is conning women out of their money who think she is a feminist. She’s just a run of the mill progressive scam artist.

    The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.
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    I remember back in the 2000s a lot of guys online were saying stuff like “I wish more women played video games.”

    Well … look what happened. We let women into they gamer community and now they are the f~~~ing gamer community. Careful what you wish for eh?

    History tells us that bringing women into your favorite hobby won’t lead to romance or anything like that. It will only ruin your favorite pastime. Lots of idealistic teenage boys don’t realize that. This process will probably continue until every manly hobby has been feminized and bro zones are nonexistent. Great … now I’m thinking about one of the Homestar Runner Halloween specials!

    King of Town: I’m a video game!
    Marzipan: I don’t play video games so I wouldn’t know.

    Those were the days right fellas? Remember when women saw video games a stupid boy thing? Remember when video games were a big part of male-bashing jokes? Remember when the gaming community was manly because women didn’t want to be a part of it? Remember when “gamer chicks” were something special? The 2000s man. F~~~ I miss that decade.

    We let women into the gaming community because we were sick of the normals calling us “gay babies”. In practice, it was like swallowing a tapeworm. The gaming community is respected now … but it isn’t our community anymore.

    R.I.P. Gaming Community: 1972 – 2015

    good post

    I get pretty sick of watching a gaming show on tv (they have set up a whole channel dedicated to it on sky) and there are more female presenters than male ones – obvious what they are up to so I stopped watching.

    I still think there are enough games out there that cater to just men but it still f~~~s me off that the feminists are in the process of trying to destroying something I love doing. Although I still think that “gamer girls” won’t stay the course and will eventually be flushed out of our hobby once they get bored

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    Uintatherium
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    Although I still think that “gamer girls” won’t stay the course and will eventually be flushed out of our hobby once they get bored.

    Isn’t that what they said about women in the military?

    I’ve already moved on dude. I still play video games sometimes but I no longer label myself a “nerd” of “gamer”. Those terms have been poisoned by feminists and their male tools on Cracked and Dorkly.

    I now have a spiritual connection to the natural world that most “nerds” never even bothered to pursue.

    MGTOW: because you can (and should) say anything about a woman as long as she isn't within earshot

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