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Greetings Gents! I just want to give you some thoughts I have on what each one of us has been experiencing – ANGER. I am concerned about those of us who remain angry and let it eat them up inside. Was I p~~~ed off to find out my (then) wive of 14 years was chasing women???!!! Hell yeah!!! Oh- yeah – that is right I said WOMEN. I know to a lot of guys I probably need to shrink a little and feel not-so-manly for turning my woman into a lesbian. Well – truth is – I don’t feel bad because – apparently – she was that way way before I met her. She just needed A LONG time to figure it all out. OH- and she needed a chump to pay for lots of stuff (for her).
I digress though – enough about me. Let’s talk about the anger you feel. Don’t give her the satisfaction of letting the hate / rage / (fill in the blank here) eat you alive. A forum like this is very cathartic indeed. In my experience – I have found that having hobbies, friends, family and other means of outlets to let off steam is great. You have been hurt – it is time to heal. The best thing you can do for yourself is move on, heal and count your blessings (sorry – I don’t mean to get ‘churchy’ but I find comfort / strength in that area). The worst thing you can do to her is move on and heal. She will hate the fact that – yes – you CAN survive without her.
Take care of YOU FIRST others in your life can damn-well wait (yeah- I swear too – not real ‘churchy’ eh??).
"I care not what others think of what I do, but I care very much about what I think of what I do! That is character!"
~ Theodore Roosevelthey guys: ListenUp! here. earlier today i was posting about mental states and how to avoid depression. I was speaking to Antares one of our new brothers who was saying he can be prone to depression. I channel depression INTO anger. The madder I get, the more productive I become. I am not a violent dude and I never hit anybody or lose it in public even though I think the world will be testing all mgtow in public situations in the decades to come because we are considered a threat. doesn’t matter to me, no one is taking over my mind. mgtow makes sense. i use anger in a very positive way, to motivate myself to make more money. they used to say money is the root of all evil. f~~~ing wrong. money is great. the more you have, the more freedom you have. if the whole country is blown to bits, mgtow with cash or even broke but with a sound mind would quickly find their place in the new emerging structure and become leaders…and this is how i see you young guys taking care of s~~~ long after gonegalt and i are gone. the future is so future bright for what i see in my head for guys like you its unbelievable man!
In my experience, it usually takes about twice as long to get over a bitch as the time spent…so what if it lingers on? let that be your motivation to never f~~~ up again. never be broke again. never be WEAK again. Violence is never an answer. financial and mental freedom ARE. clean up the room, the car, get a better job, feed solid information into your head and build your confidence. it works, trust me.
Anonymous42Anger is a topic I can relate to. We did not create anger, It’s not ours, the patent date:100000000BC…Were just fools for adopting it. I learned to reprogram my mind to respond differently to anger. I stopped all outward expressions of anger, including road rage(middle finger). My furnace has cooled, and my lid is welded shut. Here’s my rules to anger.
1.WALK AWAY!
2.Don’t throw the finger at anybody ever.
3.Be mindful of your temperature gauge at all times, when you’re hot, go COOL OFF!
4.When the anger is initiated by ill-logic, shut down, don’t try to compute.
5.Avoid violent confrontation; the outcome is unpredictable with unintended consequences including loss of life, limb and property.(both parties)
6.Eye contact: Be careful not to stare, it can invoke primeval emotion.
7.Let the other person rant, don’t ramp it up. they usually cool off if you remain calm and quiet.
8.Put your mind in another time or place, past or future.
9.Think it through to the worst possible outcome.
10.Most anger starts by lack of understanding, or situational awareness.
11.Women can be aggravating, some just keep pushing, and pushing, until the man explodes. Walk away!
12.laugh at it, laughing reprograms the mindset almost immediately.
Anger is the most ugly thing on earth.I think anger is merely a manifestation of ego. After A LOT of personal anger, frustration, and subsequent meditation on the subject I came to the revelation that my own anger is rooted in my own personal battle of control with my own ego. I believe we get ourselves in to circumstances and situations as a result of the need to satiate the ego. When ego doesn’t get its way, ego gets damaged. Anger is merely the symptom of ego in control rather than logic. This is how the universe has revealed my demons to me. While I have not yet perfected self-control, I do see the basis of what truly drives my own anger. I think this is the key to winning the war within. Ego can serve you well or it can destroy you. Wisdom is the difference in the outcome.
YMMV…
HISTORY...learn from it, memorize it, DON'T repeat it...
Anonymous5This is a problem I have with jobs/customers and women. I use logic and they do not. I always act cool/calm/professional….but they keep on pushing me for no logical reason.
Typical 9-5 job: Me: “Sorry miss, we don’t have any _____ in stock”
Her: “WHAT THE F~~~? I came here to this f~~~ing store for ____ and you assholes don’t have it! I want to speak to a manager. You are a piece of s~~~.
Me: Sorry, I can get you my manager…Example 2:
Her: Where is all the shopping carts?
Me: Sorry, We are very busy right now, they are all in use or in the parking lot.
Her: Then why the f~~~ aren’t they in the store?
Me: Our employees are getting them right now maam.
Her: NO THEY ARENT! I WAS JUST OUT THERE!!!
*Literally 5 seconds after she says that an employee walks in with 50 shopping carts*
Her: About DAMN TIME!
Me: F~~~ my life.Point is. Women will bitch about everything….and I can’t handle it in a relationship or at the work place. They are so f~~~ing stupid and illogical. Instead of going outside and getting their own f~~~ing cart, they will stand there for 20 minutes bitching me out why there is none. I wish I could have just told her to go grab her own f~~~ing cart. Nope. She would rather waste time and blame the man. LOL
MYPOPS238 – you have just described someone I work with!!! Ha ha ha! This kind of attitude (hers – not yours) is very draining and tiresome. As you so eloquently said – it takes longer (and probably expends more calories) to bitch and fuss about the (insert any random earth shattering crisis here) – than it does to just take care of it themselves.
"I care not what others think of what I do, but I care very much about what I think of what I do! That is character!"
~ Theodore RooseveltI am the only person on earth who causes my emotions. I am absolutely the only person who can deal with them.
The trick, of course, is how to deal with them. Much ink has been spilled over that one, but no one has bettered the ancient philosophers, not Dr. Phil even.
Speaking for myself, whatever emotion I’m having now, if I wait a while, it will be replaced with another probably its opposite.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
A major reason men get angry more than women is that anger is really the only emotion that is recognized as valid in men. When a man is angry, people are likely to at least try to figure out what the f~~~ is wrong. Every other emotion — sadness, crying, withdrawal, depression etc — gets men completely ignored. People (unless it’s your mom or maybe your spouse) start feeling awkward, decide something is WRONG WITH YOU and leave. So eventually you learn — get angry, or be ignored.
@smacktalk73 – Welcome (If I haven’t already said that…). You bring up some very good points. When a woman wants to get attention, she crys (among other tactics). If a man crys – people think ‘What the $#%#@ is HIS problem!!!??’ because that is what society has taught us. Men are taught to keep things inside and not show your feelings (the assumption is if you show your emotions you are weak).
I must admit – I am one of those males that acts ‘tough’ even when I feel like crying. I guess the programming during my childhood was successful.
"I care not what others think of what I do, but I care very much about what I think of what I do! That is character!"
~ Theodore RooseveltA major reason men get angry more than women is that anger is really the only emotion that is recognized as valid in men. When a man is angry, people are likely to at least try to figure out what the f~~~ is wrong
That’s completely untrue. “Anger” is the number one way to be on the receiving end of an endless barrage of “shaming tactics“. It is actually dismissed as unimportant and crossed off as “whining” especially when it is totally justifiable. When men are treated unfairly or in an unjust manner, and he expresses his displeasure…. you know what they say?
• “you’re just bitter”
• Man up and take it like a man
• don’t be a such wimp
• Poor cry baby probably has a tiny little penis.
• You probably can’t get laid.
• What are you a F~~???…you know exactly what the f~~~ I’m talking about.
If anger in men were taken seriously there would be none of that endless stream of horses~~~. Do this often enough and a man will snap. We see this on the news every once in a while too. When a man is so wronged and angry he will lose his s~~~ because nobody gives a s~~~ about his unjust treatment.
Anger is a legitimate emotion in the face of injustice.
The population who don’t agree (when a man is angry) is staggering.Even when he lashes out because he’s THAT f~~~ing angry… he gets totally dismissed as “crazy”.
When a group of women get together in a MADD meeting (mothers against drunk drivers) and one of them is furious and crying, do people walk into that meeting and say “you’re just bitter”??? Do we tell her to “woman up and take it like a woman?”. Do we tell her she must be a lesbian with a large vagina who lives in her mothers basement?
I believe that makes the point.
Not paying attention when men are angry is very serious f~~~ing problem. It’s a goddam cultural epidemic.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Amazing, I am channelizing years of anger into being productive. (writing a book about my past) thank you tower, and listen-up for confirming this is a noble way to use my anger productively. And thank you keymaster for all your valuable post. The rest of you guys are appreciated also just because I feel genuine concern for and from each and every one at this site.
I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.
“Anger” is the number one way to be on the receiving end of an endless barrage of “shaming tactics“. It is actually dismissed as unimportant and crossed off as “whining” especially when it is totally justifiable. When men are treated unfairly or in an unjust manner, and he expresses his displeasure…. you know what they say?
• “you’re just bitter”
• Man up and take it like a man
• don’t be a such wimp
• Poor cry baby probably has a tiny little penis.
• You probably can’t get laid.
• What are you a F~~???…you know exactly what the f~~~ I’m talking about.
Oh I know EXACTLY! what You’re talking about, s~~~ I wish I read this earlier.
I’m the type of person who can explain something to someone to a point where someone else would just loose their f~~~ing mind. Well, I’m pretty patient, right up until I’m disrespected, that’s where the line is drawn. and 9 times out of 10 if it’s a female receiving correction from me, it’s always
“you’re hot headed”
“you have anger issues”
“you have insecurities”
This all stems from either, them ASKING…..ASKING, me for advice (in which I give it). Or when I share a story, and want to get input, I get called
“Anger issues or insecurities”
“a real women scares you”
“do you live with your mother?”
Think of shaming language from Females as their defense mechanism against their bulls~~~ cognitive dissonance. As soon as something opposing their opinion or ideals counters their set pattern of thinking, they go into this damage mode in which their mouths spew out the most stupidest things.
Since that time, I don’t even let it bother me anymore, (i.e. don’t argue with women anymore). However I totally f~~~ing agree with Keymaster on every level. Just like Mel Gibson, everyone was talking mad s~~~ about Him after we all heard that phone call to his Ex, and even Bill Burr talked about it. Mel Gibson, sounded like a Man at His wits end, and f~~~ing women will take you there. You can have the best night ever, for some goddamn reason, a c~~~ will totally just ruin it by saying one word or something from your past, or use a shaming language.
Anger is perfectly normal, it’s a normal HUMAN response, s~~~, when Men are angry I think we fair off way better then most females do. Hell hath no fury my ass, they look like a bunch of goddamn children, stomping their feet and whining.
Case in point!, this f~~~ing video!…Enjoy!.
"If You have the Tooth of a Whale, You must have the Whale's Jaw to hold it". (i.e. One Must have the right qualifications for leadership) -Hawaiian Proverb
I use to have a volatile temper, it got my ass kicked repeatedly. I learned to control it before it got me killed, which it was headed that way or a while. I still get angry, injustice will do that to anyone, but I’ve come to the conclusion that acting upon anger doesn’t really accomplish much positive. I still get angry, it just dissipates quickly now. If anyone does manage to get me truly angry though…. you might want to run, and hide. I have something of an over developed sense of vengeance. So much so that it scares even me, yet another reason I enjoy solitude. In the end you have to pick your battles, and most just aren’t worth the effort o fighting, but that’s not my choice to make for someone else…
Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....
@Smitty the Great One – Anger will kill you if you let it. I too get angry sometimes. I try to quench the fire before it does too much damage. In my experience, I have found that emotions can be like little spoiled brats. We cannot let them control us.
Take care of yourself.
"I care not what others think of what I do, but I care very much about what I think of what I do! That is character!"
~ Theodore RooseveltYeah, with my level of training, ect, I can’t afford to get angry anymore. I still do, but have learned to dissipate it fast. Still, it is very difficult sometimes.
Yeah ListenUp, I agree 100%. I’m still mad as hell about the behavior of my ex 7 years ago. I believe there is a righteous healthy anger and an unhealthy, wrathful anger. The healthy righteous anger doesn’t consume you or make you depressed, it gets you motivated. Now, it is often very common that upon first being betrayed, the response is wrathful anger for a stint, and this is normal. But one must work on keeping the high ground to turn this into righteous anger to be used for good.
And I believe that if true amends are never made by an offender, it is only natural and normal to remain angry with the person on some level. Forgiveness it given to those who demonstrate repentance. An unrepentant offender is an enemy who is not to be trusted. This doesn’t mean that you should act aggressive, nasty or uncivil, for these behaviors will turn righteous anger into wrathful anger. No, the anger should be used to feed your stoicism and strengthen you in your principles and resolve to never be victimized again and lead a full, productive, healthy existence. It isn’t easy to do this and it doesn’t happen overnight, but it does happen, and although I am still angry with my ex and may always be, I am not angry or unhappy in life at all, in fact, things are as good as they have ever been for me. I know that may be hard for many to believe, but it is true.
@Aservent – I can relate / understand what you are saying. I think someone once said that your true character is revealed by how you react to adversity (or something like that…).
We are given s~~~ tests all the time by people who think they are superior at mind-games. I liken it to a game of chess (I love to play chess – not very good at it – but I enjoy it just the same).
How we react to the s~~~ test tells us a lot about our own character and it tells the person ‘giving’ the s~~~ test that they failed.
Cheers!
"I care not what others think of what I do, but I care very much about what I think of what I do! That is character!"
~ Theodore Roosevelt@unencumbered;
I love to play chess. Also, I’m not very good — that requires study and practice. Chess is supposed to be good for our brains (probably has something to do with all that study and practice), and so I’m trying to revive my skills by taking free internet lessons.
Have you seen Brooklyn Castle? http://www.brooklyncastle.com/
It’s inspiring, and it’s what me going again. I dropped chess around the time my adolescent hormones kicked in. Now, I’m trying to drop the hormones and do the mental thing.Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
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