"And I Will Be a Soldier 'Til the War Is Won"

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  • #12251
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    IronSoldier
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    I was a MGMOW before I even knew what that was. The watershed date was when I filed a custody petition in Philadelphia Family Court to force my children’s egg donor to return my children to me after she absconded with them.

    I should have known when I was dating the woman who ended up being my wife and the egg donor of my children, when she said to me, “I’m f~~~ed up” (referring to herself). I wanted to be the White Knight, but she turned out to be a subclinical sociopath. I never raised a hand to her, but over the ten years we were married, she hit and slapped me, purposefully hit me with the car with such force that I went up onto the hood and slid up onto the windshield (and when I spiderwebbed the windshield pounding on it and pleading for her to stop the car, she sped up!), jumped on my back injuring my cervical spine, and had an affair with the guy who lived across the street (who also had a wife and three children of his own).

    The thousand injuries of that sociopath I had borne as I best could, because I knew that the abysmal Philadelphia Family Court system would never give a Father primary custody as long as she fought against that, so I stayed so that my children would not ever have to be in her custody without my protection. But when she continued to abscond for weeks at a time with my children, never telling me where they were, I had to put a stop to it. I had to file in court for custody. And in the end, I got only 50/50 custody, and the kids end up staying in her sole custody anyway half the time. So I had borne those thousand injuries for naught all that time. She ended up unilaterally making me a part-time Father anyway.

    I am an attorney in Philadelphia and the proud Father of three wonderful children, a boy and two girls.  Unfortunately, their egg donor is a vicious, vile, contentious thorn in the side in every aspect of our lives. I only have my children 50% of the time, because the abysmal Philadelphia Family Court system ignored all the evidence against her and allowed her to unilaterally decide that I have to be a part-time Father.

    feminist judges are ruining the Family Court System

    CACKLE CACKLE!

    #12255
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    Alexander
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    oh dude i just read your story dats harsh as hell!  i wish u the best for 2015.

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    Thanks for sharing your story man. Best of luck in 2015!

    #12289
    IronSoldier
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    And that you guys, Alexander and ListenUp!  I appreciate having a forum.

    And the best to you guys in 2015.

    #12345
    Keymaster
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    force my children’s egg donor to return my children to me after she absconded with them.

    Unreal.

    My good man, you are MGHOW of the day on our homepage. Into next year and beyond.

    Welcome and make it a good one.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #12359
    IronSoldier
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    Wow, KM, I am truly honored! It is indeed a marvellous tribute to be recognized in a community as great as this, a community you have wrought. Thank you for giving us a much needed forum, sir.

    #12360
    James Hunter
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    damn, want scotch or brandy? A man that survived a woman like that needs a drink or two.

    #12394
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    IronSoldier
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    Thank you, James. A shot of Jack Daniels had been my counsellor of choice during the thick of it. These days, I usually go for a swig of Bombay Sapphire gin, since I can avoid her for the most part now, but not altogether, since I need to maintain at least a “modicum of cooperation” with her under Pennsylvania law due to our shared custody of the children.

    Ain’t that some s~~~? The law PREVENTS me from going my own way entirely because I have children with her. My youngest is only six, so at the very minimum, I’ll still be twelve years a slave.

    I’ll raise a glass to you all this New Years Day, as I sing the song of that title by U2 as I do every year. “Nothing changes…”.

    #12407
    Mdave
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    You’re better off trying to get sole custody of your son only if possible. Forget about your daughters, man, chances are they will turn as crazy as your ex-wife and they will simply grow to go and repeat what she did to you to other good guys.

    They might also be a nasty influence on your boy. I hope everything will turn ok for you and you and your son can be away from these bitches soon. You will be able to teach him what a real MGTOW is without the risk of him being contaminated by these females and turn into some man-slave.

    #12408
    FitzBones
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    My apologies for your f~~~ed up situation and a really f~~~ed up ex; its not easy having split custody and being forced to ‘play nice’ with the contemptible cow. In my own case I just use very formal tones and language with her. Dont ask about her day, dont ask how shes been and dont ask about anything other than when you’re picking him up or when you’re dropping him off. Lets her know that even though you’re forced to be in civil contact with her, that you want nothing to do with her and shes dead to you

    "If you can fill the unforgiving minute with sixty seconds' worth of distance run,"

    #12413
    TheNinjaUWannaH8
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    @ironsoldier: Welcome to the Fold!

    Ain’t the Legal System truly Frucked Up???  That’s why I refused to practice “Famine-ly” Law…seeing Good Dudes getting Anally Raped by judges afflicted with the ‘Black Robe’ disease.

    One would think that an Attorney who’s face with this BULLSHIET himself could easily navigate the “Injustice System” better than most…But the System’ss Frucked up for every Good Dude…no matter what his career is.

    A Frucken Travesty.

    #12437
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    IronSoldier
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    Guys, why doesn’t the Quote button work for me? I push it, I see a little spinning progress wheel appear for a moment, and then nothing happens. Am I doing something wrong? Does the Quote function not work with Mac?

    Okay, first of all, @mdave, we’re all brothers in arms here on this forum, so I say this with peace and brotherly love.

    Number one, I love ALL my children equally and more than life itself. ALL of them. I am not sure who “these bitches” are that you’re referring to, but I take great umbrage at anyone referring to any of my children pejoratively. I will not EVER “forget about” ANY of my children. EVER. None of my children is beyond hope, and I will raise them all to be understanding of the red pill reality. Disparaging a fellow MGTOW’s child on this forum is a sure way to make a lifelong enemy. We can’t afford to be enemies here. We all need each other, so we all need to respect each other as fellow MGTOWs, and that means respecting what is dear to our fellow MGTOWs. That has to be a ground rule or this movement will eat itself.

    Number two, it’s not only unrealistic to expect that I could get “sole custody” of any of my children as a Father, much less split the kids up and take custody of one of them. The law (as imperfect as it is) doesn’t work that way, the family court system (as completely f~~~ed up as it is) doesn’t work that way, and as a parent and paterfamilias I would never split my kids up, because they help and support each other — none of them is a “nasty influence” on any of the others…all they have 100% of the time is each other, and when they’re not with me, I feel they may as well be in the woods with wolves, so when I let them go each time my week of custody comes to an end, I pray in my heart that they will band together and survive until they return to me the following week.

    Number three, none of this is to say that we shouldn’t work together to spread our message, the red pill, and work to effect change in the law and the court system (yes, I see them as distinct — one does not necessary follow the other). To paraphrase Martin Luther King:

    Even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream.

    I have a dream that my three little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by their gender but by the content of their character.

    I have a dream today!

    I have a dream that one day, in the United States, with its vicious gynocentric hive mentality, with its mangina lawmakers — one day right here in America little children will be able to join hands as brothers and sisters.

    Yes, the world is f~~~ed up, Mdave, but I won’t give up on any of my issue.  They are the fruit of my loins and I will raise them the best I can to be a part of the solution and not a part of the problem…just like MLK asked of the white man a half a century ago.

    And now, @fitzbones:

    Thank you, brother, for your empathy for my f~~~ed up situation.  Your advice is exactly what I do, and I do even more.  My ex was raised Mennonite, and her mother was shunned for having her out of wedlock.  So being shunned cuts her even more deeply than it cuts other women.  I do not look at her; I do not acknowledge her presence if I am unavoidably in proximity to her;  I pick up the kids by parking at the corner of the street rather than in front of her door; and when I respond to her emails via the court-ordered custodial email account I write my email responses as if I’m speaking to the JUDGE and not to my ex…in other words, I refer to myself as “Father” and refer to her as “the opposing party.”  I do that in legal documents too, referring to myself as “Father” and referring to her as “petitioner” or “appellee” or “appellant” or “defendant” depending on the nature and procedural posture of the proceeding.  I never ever engage her in small talk, never offer greetings and never acknowledge her as anything other than what she is:  a physically/mentally/emotionally abusive, adulterous, thieving, conniving betrayer who betrayed and neglected her children as well as betrayed and abused her husband.   She is absolutely dead to me.

    And lastly, @NinjaJames:

    You are absolutely right, my brother.  There is no immunity for me simply because I happen to be a high priest of the religion of law.  When the semi-inevitable divorce happens (and I mean that literally … “semi-” comes from the Latin cognate, and its Old English counterpart “som-,” meaning “half”), the family court system, while it has made great strides toward gender equality in the past few years, still leans heavily in favor of the female party in all aspects of the divorce.  This refers not only to custody matters, but also the so-called “equitable” distribution of the marital assets and debts, alimony, spousal support, child support, etc.  This is a result of a few things, to quote myself, that may, as yet, be unavoidable:

    1. As far as society has come toward shattering the glass ceiling, women are still perceived as being the underdogs in the workforce.  Whether there is any truth to that or not (note, for instance, that the membership of the legal profession — and I emphasize the word “profession” — is now predominantly female; note also that these are the people who will be handling all aspects of your divorce!), the outdated notion of women being the workforce underdog is imprinted on the brains of most family court judges — male or female — and influences their decision-making.  It’s an old paradigm that the members of the legal profession find hard to break.

    2. Regardless of a woman’s earning capacity, because so few men ever take paternity leave, women end up taking the family leave from the workforce when the children are born, and that is often viewed — correctly or incorrectly — as somehow disadvantaging them professionally.  So be sure to take your FMLA leave, gentlemen, after the birth of each of your children (these will be the greatest moments of your life, I promise you)!

    3. Women are stereotyped as the “nurturers” and men are not seen that way.  That’s nonsense, gentlemen.  We are not our father’s fathers.  We are a new generation of men; a generation of men raised by our mothers.  We now have the tools to be nurturers also, and are just as good at it as our female counterparts if we use those tools.  The pendulum has swung and finally equilibrated.  This old, but still strong stereotype of women as the sole nurturers inures greatly to the female party’s favor not only in custody matters, but also in all the other ancillary matters in a divorce, because the “default” notion is that the mother will be the primary nurturer of the children (even if there is an evenly split physical custody arrangement), and she therefore needs the financial resources to support that role.  And where will those financial resources come from?  From the man’s “deep pockets,” of course!

    Women know this — intuitively, if not consciously, because it is taught to all of us — men and women —  subtly in every aspect of our society.  Thus, women are no longer afraid to seek a divorce; in fact, when a marriage has passed the margin of diminishing returns for the female partner — financial or otherwise, such as with respect to the ethereal or ever-fluctuating notion of “happiness” — it actually behooves the wife, from an investment perspective, to “sell,” to get out, to divorce her spouse.  At that point, you are worth more to her as her ex-husband and a stream of income than you are as her husband.

    And make no mistake about it — happiness is a fluctuating concept.  Every relationship has ups and downs.  But because we live in a society with a “fast-food mentality,” and because divorce is so easy nowadays and no longer holds any social stigma, people don’t bother weathering the downs and waiting for the inevitable ups to come around again.  Even setting aside the margin of diminishing financial returns, as soon as the margin of diminishing returns of happiness rears its ugly head over the horizon, one or both parties often look to divorce as a first resort.  Because women stand to make out financially from the “investment” of having commingled the funds and wealth of both parties into a single “marital estate,”  and stand to get the lioness’s share of custody to boot, women are quicker to file the divorce papers.

    What we need is more men becoming LEGISLATORS to strip the hive of their blue pill mentality and liberate us from the Femininely Court System, as brother Ninja James aptly put it.

    I am the stone that builder refused
    I am the visual
    The inspiration
    That made lady sing the blues  I’m the spark that makes your idea bright
    The same spark
    That lights the dark
    So that you can know your left from your right  I am the ballot in your box
    The bullet in your gun
    The inner glow that lets you know
    To call your brother son
    The story that just begun
    The promise of what’s to come
    And I will remain a soldier till the war is won  Chop, chop. Judo flip.

    #12725
    James Hunter
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    well said, Soldier, we need to remember that we don’t hate women, we just want the world to change the way it views men’s issues and rights. According to what I’ve read, the only thing that could be a negative influence on the kids is your ex, but showing the children he red pill reality will help the boy(s) see what mistakes they shouldn’t make and it should help the girls realize what terrible things they could do to a man just because.

    #12737
    BrainPilot
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    I feel for you dude. I always assumed that if an attorney went though the process, he could make it work more fairly, at least for himself. I made the decision to remain childless and at 48, that’s probably for good. And while I think I may regret it some day, I don’t think I could have held up mentally to the prospect of having had kids and then being made (effectively) childless by their mother. I looked but I never found a woman that could inspire me to believe that I could safely trust her to have that power over me and not abuse it.

    Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

    #12905
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    IronSoldier
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    That is indeed my take, @james Hunter.  Thanks for your support.

    Yes, @brainpilot, one would think that a lawyer could navigate the s~~~sea that is the Family Court System, but alas, even I am not immune to the gynocentric clusterf~~~ that passes for justice for “the best interest of the child” in this country.

    I have unleashed a s~~~storm on everyone involved, however.  My ex files frivolous contempt petitions every year against me, and even though I have NEVER been found in contempt, the t~~~ judge nevertheless found fit to order me to pay my ex’s attorney’s fees for the litigation.

    So I fired my nukes.

    I appealed to the Superior Court.  I wrote a NINE ISSUE legal brief that was so large, I had to PETITION the Superior Court (successfully, I hasten to add) for permission to exceed the page limit.  The t~~~ judge I was appealing was required by the rules of appellate procedure to JUSTIFY her rulings on EVERY claim of error I raised.  I got great satisfaction at the thought of her being forced to respond to my brief as I took her to task before a higher court.

    Then my ex’s attorney, who is NOT an appellate attorney, had to file a response brief and respond to all NINE issues.  Trial attorneys HATE to write s~~~.

    Then we argued before the Superior Court.  I refused to agree to an expedited argument, insisting instead on my full fifteen minutes of argument time, which meant we were placed at the very end of the calender.  I argued the case myself, so I had a ball.  My ex had to pay for her attorney’s time, and it was an ALL DAY AFFAIR.

    And that wasn’t all.

    THEN I reported the judge to the Pennsylvania Board of Judicial Conduct for about eight separate ethics violations.

    I lost the appeal and the Board of Judicial Conduct determined that there were no ethical violations, but that wasn’t the point.  The point was, if they f~~~ with me, they can expect a lot of red tape to follow.  And now the t~~~ judge has a complaint to the Board of Judicial Conduct on her record.

    And I’m prepared to do it again.

    Next on my agenda, file a complaint to the Pennsylvania Disciplinary Board against my ex’s attorney for attorney misconduct and file a criminal complaint against him as well for a little known Pennsylvania crime called “Barratry”, which is defined under 18 Pa.C.S. Sec. 5109 as: “a misdemeanor of the third degree if he vexes others with unjust and vexatious suits.

    #12910
    Mendokusai
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    Welcome and I think it is important that a child has a strong male role model in their life,my father was there for me when my mother ran off with some guy and my step mother couldn’t cut it.Do it for the kids because they are yours and you are helping to shape them.They will see from your actions that there are men of honour and principle in this world. My mother tried to poison my mind with lies about my father during the custody case but I knew better and now I haven’t spoken to her in almost 30yrs (not that I know where she is anymore) but my father has always remained a role model for me,

    Keep up the good work & fight the good fight.

    #15234
    IronSoldier
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    Thanks, steld.  That’s some good advice, no doubt borne of a great deal of suffering you had to endure.  “I will remain a soldier ’til the war is won.”

    #15256
    RoyDal
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    I think it is important that a child has a strong male role model in their life …

    Totally agree!

    Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

    #15264
    FitzBones
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    My god yes, damn good work fighting that IronSoldier.
    Doesnt matter if you win or lose since you’ve already lost it all, just make damn sure to put up the fight of your life and bleed the bitch dry of money.
    My ex knows I have plans to do the same thing if she ever pushes me.
    Not only that, but in later years when your child is grown; you’ll have all the paperwork to show and prove that you fought for him and that you did your best to be a part of his life. That can prove that his mothers a bitch and it was his mother that seperated the two of you, if she goes that far.

    "If you can fill the unforgiving minute with sixty seconds' worth of distance run,"

    #16956
    Harpo-My-"SON"
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    Ironsoldier , when dealing with my own legal child support matters I would see young men going  to the judge looking like a deer in the headlights. I felt sorry for them, but could not help them.They were so unaware that the judge was making presumptions and asking Questions of them so as to gain consent. They would stand there thinking (I now believe) that it was ok to remain silent because of the fifth, never knowing about laches or even what it is. They would let them clear out before my turn. then call my name. I would quickly say  “here your honor on a special appearance not a general and I will be speaking in the form of a demure. If it please the court I would like to state my name, status, reserve , invoke some rights and make some interpretation in my favor pursuant to 16 American juris  prudence 2nd sec 97.”   I memorized and spoke quickly.  I only have high school ed  but my father was wise enough to teach me how to educate myself. Being a bit older and looking more prepared than those young guys I believe is why I was last to be called.

    Ironsoldier  you should write some “how to handle yourself in court” post. being that’s your profession. I know what they say about a man who represents himself in court but I believe its the bigger fool who lets someone else talk for him. When I see two opposing attorneys leaving the courthouse, I know one of them lost. So it’s the same odds as a coin flip if I do hire one. I for one would love to hear your take on this.

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    I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

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