American Beauty Vs A Feminist

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  • #197369
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    MrBurns
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    I love American Beauty. I always have, even as a blue pill… but these days it always reminds me of the s~~~ that matters. I don’t think I’m alone.

    I just stumbled on this article where someone talks about how horrible/abusive Lester Burnham is… and I wanted to share. http://decider.com/2014/09/08/american-beauty-15-years-later/

    American Beauty was my favorite movie of all time. I loved it like a friend

    Totally man. Ya. So what’s the problem?

    Statistics overwhelmingly support the notion that American Beauty is not just a good movie, but one of the best ever made

    I’m with you. Where is this going?

    But after years of contemplation, maturation, overall life experience, and one certificate in Women’s Studies

    Bingo!

    It may, in fact, be one of my least favorite movies of all time.

    (Talking about how it was inspired by ‘Lolita’) Ball named the protagonist of American Beauty Lester Burnham: “Humbert learns.” Like Lolita, however, American Beauty is about a man who learns nothing. Lester is the same exploitative, violent, manipulative abuser as his namesake, but he comes in a different package. This time, Humbert Humbert is an idealistic baby boomer.

    It’s about a man who learns nothing? Except for how to escape a gynocentric hell, financial rat race, miserable relationship, miserable job, poor health… I guess ‘learn’ might not be the ideal word but neither is it about someone’s inability to do so.

    Who/how did he exploit?

    When was he violent? Was it the masturbating in the shower? Was it the car?

    He did blackmail a boss who s~~~s on him regularly so I guess he was manipulative. But given that it was an isolated incident, I have to argue he was a guy who DID something manipulative, rather than a manipulative GUY.

    Lester says Charlotte makes him feel “like a prisoner,” but the movie doesn’t make it clear how. We know he hates the music she plays while their family eats the dinner she makes for them, but that appears to be the only power Carolyn exerts over Lester. The further we go into American Beauty, the clearer it becomes that Carolyn is the real prisoner.

    Maybe you missed all the scenes where she belittles him in front of his own child. Or the part where all he really wants to do is workout, f~~~, and smoke weed… but their entire existence revolves around material things that he doesn’t care about.
    “IT’S JUST A COUCH”
    But Carolyn (Not Charlotte. That’s from Lolita fyi) is obsessed with material things he doesn’t give a s~~~ about. Her clothes match her pruning shears. She buys a super expensive couch and would rather lecture him about the cost of it than have sex.
    Sex, for that matter. He only gets off when he does it himself. Did you miss that part too?

    Carolyn is the prisoner because… why? She has everything she wants and Lester is not taking her s~~~ anymore?

    In the meantime, Lester quits his office job to work at a fast food restaurant, making Carolyn the sole breadwinner of their home. We only see Lester at his fast food job once: when he catches Carolyn and her lover kissing in her car. There is no imagery of the excruciating toil of minimum-wage service work, save for the dumbfounded faces of his coworkers when he asks to apply for a job. Lester has the experience and pedigree to do whatever he wants, but he’d rather do nothing, especially because his wife will pay for it. No more “[flipping] burgers all summer just to buy an 8-Track” — he’s got the means to buy himself expensive weed and a vintage car. Carolyn is not Lester’s wife: she’s his rich mother, coerced into providing for him.

    What really struck me about this scene has always been the part where he says he’s ok with it. Like he wants everyone to just be happy and do their own thing, no jealousy, no anger… but no more taking s~~~ from her. It’s f~~~ing beautiful. But I digress.

    She’s not the sole breadwinner. He has a fast food job and just brought home $60,000. That might not support them for life, but it’s enough for a hell of a long vacation. Especially if they let go of all the material bulls~~~ that only Carolyn cares about.

    She’s ‘coerced’ into making a choice: 1. Leave. or 2. Pay for your own luxuries. Sounds reasonable to me. And I’m saying that as someone who was once given that same choice (minus the hefty lump sum or any income brought in by the other party). I left. It was the best decision I’ve ever made.

    /rant over

    #197372
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    Great comeback analysis.

    Got to remind myself, “It’s just a cooch.”

    "It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

    #197390
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    ILiveAgain
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    BOOM

    A puff of smoke and shes gone.

    Like holy water to a vampire.

    Great job

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    Hellraider
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    Yup, a man can work to death so that the c~~~ on legs he married can spend all his money on useless crap.

    But when a man says f~~~ no, i want to smoke weed and work out, then, somehow, the c~~~ is the one being opressed.

    To a feminist, if a man pays for a woman, its the opression of patriarchy, because a woman is an independent being.

    If a man does not pay for a woman, she is being opressed by an exploitative husband.

    My advice to feminists? Go AND BY A STRAP ON to f~~~ other feminists.
    Its the only way your going to get sex, from now on.

    The game is over, the men are just walking away from the field and the women are screaming louder and louder.

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    Mister Man Smith
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    It’s funny how this Sarah Fonder starts by writing she used to love the movie…
    Until she was indoctrinated into feminist dogma by her certificate in women’s studies!

    It’s amazing how can she turn and twist the movie like this, with nothing to back up her claims I might say, all of a sudden in her mind Lester was an oppressor because… Patriarchy!?
    In her mind all she needs to win an argument is a vagina apparently, why bother with facts?

    By the way, thanks for reminding me of this movie, I don’t think I ever saw it beginning to end in one sit down, I have to do that sometime.

    mistermansmithmgtow.blogspot.com

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    The_Mad_Pirate
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    Feminists can stand “American Beauty” simply because that movie delivers way too many red pills for the feminazi to stand.
    Now, if you guys re-read Chapter 9 from “The Selfish Gene” by Richard Dawkins you will realize that the feminist definition of Patriarchy is ” Any sociological system that allows men to have freedom, particularly sexual freedom, in wich a male is allowed to mate with several females at will”.

    "We didn't start the fire. It was always burning. Since the world's been turning" "A world that vilifies men only breeds a generation of men that feel no empathy towards women" “In a woman’s mind , there is really no such thing as a ‘we’. In her eyes, earth allways revolves around her, not the other way around. So thinking that your needs , aspirations or desires are valid enough to be persued, or even that you are entitled achive such goals, is like asking your boss for a pay rise in your very first day at the job.”

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    Spacemonkey
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    Thanks for a great post, Mr Burns. +1.

    It’s amazing how feminazis can twist reality to serve their own perverted agenda. It’s a wonder they have not had a go at the bible yet, or maybe they have already.

    I’ll have to re-visit the movie, but as I recall it the wife is definitely a scheming avaricious bitch who thinks more about a new sofa than she does about the happiness of her own family. And she is an estate agent after all ( realtor in American ) so it is pretty clear she is intended to be a c~~~.

    “Long is the way and hard, that out of Hell leads up to light.”

    #197571
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    feminists just can’t leave things alone , can they ?
    she has to try to get an angle to tear at the film..
    you destroyed her arguments to dust.
    thank you mr. burns !

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    Keymaster
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    There is a little known poster graphic of American Beauty where the “tagline” for it was

    “LOOK CLOSER”.

    This didn’t make theaters or the the home video / dvd / blu-ray covers either.

    That’s what the movie was about: NOTHING IS WAS IT SEEMS.

    • Mena Suvari wasn’t the experienced slut who actually knew everything, she was a total prude and a virgin when her clothes came off.
    • His wife wasn’t strong and independent sales woman, she had private breakdowns and suffered from extreme neuroses and only PRETENDED to be in control. Her entire bossy persona and dialogue was a front.
    • Creepy Ricky Fitz (with the camera) wasn’t a wierdo after all.
    • The military overtly gay-hating Dad was gay all along.

    When revealed (and the onion layers came off) every character was a surprise. Nobody was what they appeared to be. And this totally LOST on the reviewer.

    The dinner scene “Don’t interrupt me honey”….

    /video/dont-interrupt-me-honey/

    …. is only “abuse” because women are not used to husbands who don’t behave like neutered little house pets. That’s what they expect. So ANYTHING above that is “abusive” behavior. Try it sometime. Just say NO to a woman and watch her reaction. She will react like you treated her badly.

    So when Lester is a f~~~ing MAN about it in his own house, and sets his own parameters, women go out of their minds. He didn’t throw the plate of asparagus at his wife. He threw it at the wall in his own house because his lecturing wife wouldn’t shut the f~~~ up. When a man stands up for himself, the reaction ranges anywhere from complete shock, to all out rage and contempt. “What’s with all the hostility!!!”

    Lester starts the movie literally “asleep” … and then he WAKES UP.

    If anyone had “abusive” behavior it was his cheating c~~~ wife.
    “I don’t know what you’re up to mister, but you WILL NOT get away with it”.
    • Nagging him for masturbating.
    • Nagging at him for working out in his own garage and buying the car he always wanted.

    How familiar is that. Who’s “abusive” now.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
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    “From now on, we’re going to alternate our dinner music”. The guy is the epitome of fairness, he just wants to be treated the same as he treats his family.

    Great post Mr Burns. Money fight!

    #261022
    Freedom
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    Her comments about the movie reveal nothing about the movie, but plenty about the feminist agenda.

    Nice guys are happy to fulfill all of a woman’s needs, at the expense of all of his own.

    Well, no more Mr. Nice Guy.

    It is wise to fear dangerous commitments.

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