Am I the only Orthodox Jewish Person here?

[jewishmgtowParticipant 2]

I’m an orthodox Jewish man in my early 30s growing more and more disillusioned with the merciless dating scene. Let me illustrate to you how my latest date went in order to give you an understanding as to you I’m very much leaning towards MGTOW.

 

In my extremely conservative community, boys are set up on what is called ‘shidduch dates’. We don’t have all that much opportunity to go out and find girls, plus the community has such crazy hang ups that unmarried girls and unmarried boys are not supposed to comingle and fraternize unless it is for marriage purposes (eyeroll).

 

This is how my last dreadful date went (and it is indicative of the mindset of man a young woman these days):

 

Me: What kind of expenses did you have in mind (background: she mentioned something about how expensive it is to maintain a household these days).

 

She (thinking intently): I want to have a nice sheitel ! (a sheitel is a wig worn by Orthodox Jewish women in a ridiculous loophole, a pathetic attempt to circumvent the prohibition against a married woman wearing her hair uncovered).

 

Me: Ok, what’s an expensive sheitel cost? 2,000?

 

She (laughing): Those are the cheap ones.

If you thought that religious Jewish women are wholesome and a catch, then you may have thought wrong. A growing number of women in this ultra-conservative community are becoming more and more uber materialistic. They don’t want to work, they expect expensive gifts and pampering at every given moment. Many of them are lousy mothers. There are no shortage of nasty divorces (with the ever present money extortion) in this community. There is no shortage of backbiting and mean spiritedness.

You may also want to familiarize yourself with something called ‘The Shidduch Crisis’ where the Orthodox Jewish community bemoans the fact that so many men and women are remaining single. All kinds of ridiculous theories and ‘solutions’ have been offered. Nobody has the guts to say it like it is.

 

[SamMGTOWParticipant 95]

Not Jewish. Can relate to the dating scene though, and growing up in a ultra conservative Christian community and school. I had some experiences of the same nature like shaming sex before marriage, though likely not to the extent that you’ve experienced. People all over are deciding not to enter into marriage contracts, they’re on the verge of a parabolic drop right now. Haha, yes I hear the expenses sentiment a lot to. Once you determine the persons wage and they’re expenses you can connect the dots. The way numbers on paper add up for frivolous things tells a very clear story. There is an element of empiricism to MGTOW philosophy you could say. People like you and me are seeing the craters left over from our fathers and friends marriages, divorces, and relationships and think, why would I want to subject myself to that? Anyways, MGTOW welcomes you.

[RoyDalParticipant]

You are not alone. The general pattern you encountered in your life is typical of what has happened to me and many, many other men I’ve known. Your experiences are not confined to the Orthodox community.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[rainydaykidParticipant 42]

I’m not Jewish either, but I am not surprised by your comments. A couple of men here have linked to a site called “Just girly things” about women that post pics of stuff they like, about 3/4ths of them are like “I want a new iPhone” or something related to owning something rather than something meaningful.

[jewishmgtowParticipant 2]

Hey all thanks the warm welcome and enlightening responses.

Every now and then I get more shidduch offers. I am getting fed up with the never ending grind. I try to politely decline.

Yesterday I kinda went full retard and told my orthodox jewish friend (who is single himself) about mgtow. I told him I’ve decided that there’s no point in getting married anymore. Marriage is becoming obsolete and to just look around and see how many young married couples are either miserable or divorced. Thems blasphemous words where I come from. He did call me in a huff but I don’t have the patience to hear a lecture..

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