Am i mgtow or a pua?

[Wolf redpillmanSpectator 1658]

I asking this question because i consider.myself.a.Mgtow.level 2 ,meaning i do f~~~ every.now and then ,but would never get married or.move someone.in with.me because of how hostiles that system is against.men ,pussy.its not.my main goal and.i dont pursued women ,i just interact with them when.i want sex.period i might spend a few dollar on drink ect but that about it once i get.her vagina after a few days. I tell her.i lost.my.job so she can get rid.of.me on her term am.i.a.pua.or a.mgtow????

[BurgundyParticipant 1525]

What you strive for in your life, you do it get some better pussy, or to better yourself?

Be honest, and you will know, where you stand, because knowing where you stand, and being honest about it to yourself, is the most important thing, so you don’t delude yourself, while walking into a dead end.

You like to f~~~ now and then, so you like to take a chance now and then, it’s okay, as long you accept the risks you endow yourself, it’s all up to you, nothing to feel bad about.

I interact with women daily, from a stranger’s view, I will look like any other carnivorous hunter, and that’s my thing, to hide in plain sight, while doing my thing, focusing on myself, in my spare time, with no interest in women or relationship what so ever. I see dating, and spending your free time with women, as a waste of your precious free time, which could have been spend on something with purpose for you alone.

It’s a tough one, in a way, because I was just like that few years ago, one night stands, minimal investment, yet in the end, it was still wasting precious free time, and also today, one night stands have a big risk attached to them, you never know if the grenade you defused, could have a secondary igniter, in various ways, lol.

Now I simply ask myself, is that pussy worth the lost time for myself? And the answer is (pretty much) always ,”not worth it”.

You may be of different opinion, and that’s pretty okay too, because, as long we walk our own way, not following another, we must be walking the path we wish to walk, in the present, right?

[RoyDalParticipant]

Burgundy wrote:

Be honest, and you will know, where you stand, because knowing where you stand, and being honest about it to yourself, is the most important thing, so you don’t delude yourself, while walking into a dead end.

Burgundy says it for me.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[FullMetalExoParticipant 2383]

yeh, seems like mgtow 🙂
Im lvl 50 mgtow then. Im pretty sure its not even max.

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[Wolf redpillmanSpectator 1658]

Ok thanks guys i was just a.bit confuses, and i stand to better.myself just need to f~~~ every now and then

[sidecarParticipant 35842]

MGTOW are not explicitly or implicitly about celibacy. MGTOW are about not being chumps. Some MGTOW use celibacy as a means to avoid becoming a chump, but by no means all of them.

You can be a MGHOW while still having sex. It’s more inherently risky than celibacy, but that risk can be minimized in various ways (hint: vasectomy).

Consider this: If you have sex with a woman, and she expects something from you, but being a MGHOW you don’t provide it to her, then she is the chump, not you.

[HimeoParticipant 471]

I don’t see why you can’t use PUA techniques as a MGTOW. My understanding of MGTOW is that it’s about avoiding marriage, using the time and resources saved from avoiding marriage toward a goal of your own choosing.

If that goal is PUA, I don’t see a problem with it.

[MattNYCParticipant 2329]

Wolf redpillman wrote:

pua.or a.mgtow

Always thought PUAs defined their success as men with how many women they’ve f~~~ed/how many phone #s they get. That’s central to who they are.

MGTOWs are more about defining their own success in life, and making sure they have enough time/energy/$$$ to do that via limiting risk related to relationships with women – marriage, children, cohabitation, etc.

Whatever that success may be – career, traveling, learning new languages, riding/fixing motorcycles, etc. – it is no longer being a father/husband, providing for your family, etc – if indeed it ever was.

[Tiga KParticipant 1693]

The guys here have never been able to completely agree on what a mgtow is, so answering your question is tough. I’ve always thought of pua’s as the guys that are still dependent on women and use their number of lays to determine how much of a true man…. I mean a true alpha male they are. A mgtow is a man that realizes his self worth is not determined by his smv. He’ll get a lay when or if he feels the need. It sounds like you are in control of your sex drive rather than it controlling you, so I would call you mgtow.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

sidecar wrote:

MGTOW are not explicitly or implicitly about celibacy. MGTOW are about not being chumps. Some MGTOW use celibacy as a means to avoid becoming a chump, but by no means all of them.

You can be a MGHOW while still having sex. It’s more inherently risky than celibacy, but that risk can be minimized in various ways (hint: vasectomy).

Consider this: If you have sex with a woman, and she expects something from you, but being a MGHOW you don’t provide it to her, then she is the chump, not you.

This.

Just get a vasectomy if you don’t already have one. Having sex, even with a condom, is playing with fire if you don’t have complete control over your own reproductive ability. And be cautious of rape allegations too. Females can force you to go their way even if you have no intention of doing so and that would be the end of being a MGHOW for you,

In a nutshell I would say PUA is about using an understanding of female nature, psychology and trickery to get dumb hot girls with low self-esteem to let you f~~~ them, MGTOW is about using an understanding of female nature and self-knowledge to avoid being trapped into leading your life for anything other than your own purposes, pursuits and pleasures.

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

First of all there are no MGTOW levels these are paths of choices. Do whatever you want, nobody should be telling what you should or not do. Generally PUA love women or pussy, mgtow doesn’t.
Difference between MGTOW and PUA is awareness.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[MonkeyMindParticipant 5340]

It’s up to you what you define yourself as, not us.

There’s nothing wrong with spinning plates and being a MGTOW as far as i care. We’re not a cult and people can come and go as they please. Some people will inevitably go back to the plantaion, others will choose to stay, but the choice is entirely up to the individual how they choose to live their own life.

[HitmanParticipant]

your’e straight up mgtow brother , nothing wrong in hitting that tail ! you run your life, not some woman . that’s going your own way to me !

[NotMyProblemParticipant 965]

During my PUA days I was always more MGTOW then anything. The two are interlinked if you’re still young with a heavy sac.

MGTOW makes you a better PUA. The guys that focus on da pussy don’t actually get much.

To get women, you do not chase women.

Instead you chase money and power, by realizing your own goals and dreams.

Then the women chase you.

Not my property... Not my problem

[RedDawnParticipant 1391]

And then as you said MGTOWisthaonlyway, you root then and tell them a few days later you lost your job. It’s a harsh economy hahaha

Courage is the key to life itself - Morgan Freeman

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