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  • #595475
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    Anonymous
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    I just realized that we are a real threat to the governments. I wonder when redpill/mgtow communities get banned if the idea of mgtow grow at this rate! Most mgtows don’t even heard of that word but have accepted the philosophy for a long time. Many men aging from 16 are refusing women altogether in secret. Most of the blue pillers/mangainas/white knights/PUAs are getting financial raped by the law and are becoming MGTOW. When people in power found out majority are not playing by their rules, they will use every power they have to enslave us back. I am absolutely sure of this one.

    MGTOW is highly dangerous for governments! Here is it..

    1. We do not help the economy grow (Less consumerism)
    2. We save / invest our money (No longer financial slaves).
    3. We refuse to care for women (Not feeding ego and social validation of women).
    4. Avoiding alimony, child support, court fees and money for divorce lawyers (Huge savings!).
    5. Lesser medical expenses (More mental and physical health).
    6. No issues related to dating/marriage/divorce (Emotional sanity! also refer no.4).
    7. No false rape accusations (no loss of job and reputation also refer no.4).
    8. Own 100% of your car, house and other S~~t (Shaming is no longer working).
    9. High boost in ego, confidence and bank balance/credit score (Higher testosterone levels).
    10. Lots of time for socializing and serious conversations (Politics, poetry, culture, finance, self improvement etc).
    11. Lesser number of children (can’t have a stable economy eg: Japan).
    12. Most MGTOW men are free-thinkers and refuse to accept propaganda (THIS IS THE MOST DANGEROUS PART) like others.

    My concern is will they point a gun at us forcing to get married and have kids in future?

    As long as blue pillers/mangainas/white knights outnumber mgtow/red pillers we are safe. But for how long??? The world is changing so fast.

    OR AM I JUST A DELUSIONAL OVER-THINKER?

    #595477
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    ScarberianMPTGL
    ScarberianMPTGL
    Participant
    3286

    Ah, we’ll probably be dead before MGTOW gets big enough to be a real problem, just worry about it if the time comes. In the meantime, enjoy your life.

    I, Lelouch Vi Britannia, command you, all of you, to Go Your Own Way!!

    #595481
    +5

    Anonymous
    42

    Good! Any form of government that some rule over others while granted clemency and immunity above the laws needs some severe rearrangement!

    That’s where natural law moves in and takes over.

    They attacked us

    Abused us

    Ridiculed us

    Segregated us

    Demonized us

    Demoted us

    Disposed of us

    Now we’re gone

    It’s that Simple.

    What animal enjoys torture? Name one.

    #595488
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    Ranger One
    Ranger One
    Participant
    16836

    I just realized that we are a real threat to the governments. I wonder when redpill/mgtow communities get banned if the idea of mgtow grow at this rate! Most mgtows don’t even heard of that word but have accepted the philosophy for a long time. Many men aging from 16 are refusing women altogether in secret. Most of the blue pillers/mangainas/white knights/PUAs are getting financial raped by the law and are becoming MGTOW. When people in power found out majority are not playing by their rules, they will use every power they have to enslave us back. I am absolutely sure of this one.

    MGTOW is highly dangerous for governments! Here is it..

    1. We do not help the economy grow (Less consumerism)
    2. We save / invest our money (No longer financial slaves).
    3. We refuse to care for women (Not feeding ego and social validation of women).
    4. Avoiding alimony, child support, court fees and money for divorce lawyers (Huge savings!).
    5. Lesser medical expenses (More mental and physical health).
    6. No issues related to dating/marriage/divorce (Emotional sanity! also refer no.4).
    7. No false rape accusations (no loss of job and reputation also refer no.4).
    8. Own 100% of your car, house and other S~~t (Shaming is no longer working).
    9. High boost in ego, confidence and bank balance/credit score (Higher testosterone levels).
    10. Lots of time for socializing and serious conversations (Politics, poetry, culture, finance, self improvement etc).
    11. Lesser number of children (can’t have a stable economy eg: Japan).
    12. Most MGTOW men are free-thinkers and refuse to accept propaganda (THIS IS THE MOST DANGEROUS PART) like others.

    My concern is will they point a gun at us forcing to get married and have kids in future?

    As long as blue pillers/mangainas/white knights outnumber mgtow/red pillers we are safe. But for how long??? The world is changing so fast.

    OR AM I JUST A DELUSIONAL OVER-THINKER?

    If any government ever tries to force one of my sons to marry, I’d eliminate the politician that sponsored that law by using whatever force is necessary and no matter what collateral damage would result.

    All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

    #595495
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    Ghost
    ghost
    Participant

    You are over thinking everything in my opinion. We are a very, very, very small minority. We do not move the needle and I don’t expect us to in our lifetime. Don’t put too much thought into it and enjoy your life.

    #595499
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    Anonymous
    1

    Ah, we’ll probably be dead before MGTOW gets big enough to be a real problem, just worry about it if the time comes. In the meantime, enjoy your life.

    The Japanese herbivores have already become a problem for their government. Last I heard, the Japanese government was offering more incentives for women to have children, but that isn’t where the problem lys, so it isn’t going to resolve the issue.

    I appreciate the herbivores make up over half of the male population in Japan. We’re no way near those levels.

    #595514
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    IRuleMe
    IRuleMe
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    You are over thinking everything in my opinion. We are a very, very, very small minority. We do not move the needle and I don’t expect us to in our lifetime. Don’t put too much thought into it and enjoy your life.

    We’re a small minority sure, but the IDEA of MGTOW in Japan and its implementation is way bigger than this site. Imagine if people in Japan started signing up here! Also the rate at which MGTOW is growing is very quick. In just two years alone there’s over 25000 accounts here. That’s also without factoring all the bachelor guys living MGTOW lifestyles without knowing what MGTOW actually is.

    #595517

    Anonymous
    1

    Imagine if people in Japan started signing up here

    I’d love to know if we have any herbivore lurkers on this site.

    If we do, please sign up. We’d very much like to talk with you guys.

    #595529
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    OldBill
    OldBill
    Participant

    OR AM I JUST A DELUSIONAL OVER-THINKER?

    Yes, you are a delusional over-thinker.

    The MGTOW philosophy is followed by an absurdly minuscule number of men. While it may be mentioned by feminnazi “academics” in their circle jerks and while it may be the subject of hit pieces by the mainstream media, the vast majority of the public has never heard of it and would laugh if it were explained to them.

    You’re suffering from what can best be described as sample bias. You watch MGTOW videos, read MGTOW forums, think about MGTOW daily, and all the rest. Because you live in a MGTOW echo chamber, you perceive MGTOW as being much bigger than it actually is.

    Take a deep breath, step out of your sandbox, and look at the wider world for a change.

    Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

    #595537
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    MACHO
    MACHO
    Participant

    Until a site like this one hits half a million members we’re pretty much just a tiny dot on the world’s radar!

    You must own a better Crystal ball than I
    #595550
    Carnage
    Carnage
    Participant
    22113

    Delusional.

    MGTOW or bachelors are not enough in numbers to have any effect against the sistem.

    Even in Japan the country with highest MGTOW “hervibor” count on the planet, they are not that much significant.

    To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

    #595560
    +1

    Anonymous
    1

    I think there are drawbacks to living life in an echo chamber and that’s some good advice from Old Bill.

    I’ve found myself, at times, over observing and analysing (from a red pill perspective) behaviours of others (especially women) when out in public. These are things I wouldn’t have paid attention to before and it can be quite irritating and stressful – something I really don’t need.

    I made a post a few months back and TattooDave gave me some advice to limit my time on the forums. I think that is something I am going to do.

    #595571
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    OldBill
    OldBill
    Participant

    Until a site like this one hits half a million members we’re pretty much just a tiny dot on the world’s radar!

    Failed math, huh?

    The current world population is 7.4 billion.

    500,000 is 50% of 1 million.
    500,000 is 5% of 10 million.
    500,000 is 0.5% of 100 million.
    500,000 is 0.05% of 1 billion.
    500,000 is 0.00675% of 7.4 billion.

    Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

    #595574

    Anonymous
    3

    You are thinking 1984, with government oppression.

    My fear is Orwell’s “Brave New World”, like the flogging scene, where a man that refused to comply with the status quo was made a celebrity and a new trend.

    The Savage had retreated towards cover, and now, in the posture of an animal at bay, stood with his back to the wall of the lighthouse, staring from face to face in speechless horror, like a man out of his senses.
    From this stupor he was aroused to a more immediate sense of reality by the impact on his cheek of a well-aimed packet of chewing-gum. A shock of startling pain–and he was broad awake, awake and fiercely angry.
    “Go away!” he shouted.
    The ape had spoken; there was a burst of laughter and hand-clapping. “Good old Savage! Hurrah, hurrah!” And through the babel he heard cries of: “Whip, whip, the whip!”
    Acting on the word’s suggestion, he seized the bunch of knotted cords from its nail behind the door and shook it at his tormentors.
    There was a yell of ironical applause.
    Menacingly he advanced towards them. A woman cried out in fear. The line wavered at its most immediately threatened point, then stiffened again, stood firm. The consciousness of being in overwhelming force had given these sightseers a courage which the Savage had not expected of them. Taken aback, he halted and looked round.
    “Why don’t you leave me alone?” There was an almost plaintive note in his anger.
    “Have a few magnesium-salted almonds!” said the man who, if the Savage were to advance, would be the first to be attacked. He held out a packet. “They’re really very good, you know,” he added, with a rather nervous smile of propitiation. “And the magnesium salts will help to keep you young.”
    The Savage ignored his offer. “What do you want with me?” he asked, turning from one grinning face to another. “What do you want with me?”
    “The whip,” answered a hundred voices confusedly. “Do the whipping stunt. Let’s see the whipping stunt.”
    Then, in unison and on a slow, heavy rhythm, “We-want-the whip,” shouted a group at the end of the line. “We–want–the whip.”
    Others at once took up the cry, and the phrase was repeated, parrot-fashion, again and again, with an ever-growing volume of sound, until, by the seventh or eighth reiteration, no other word was being spoken. “We–want–the whip.”
    They were all crying together; and, intoxicated by the noise, the unanimity, the sense of rhythmical atonement, they might, it seemed, have gone on for hours-almost indefinitely.

    #595599
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    Awakened
    Awakened
    Participant
    35221

    Blood_King wrote:
    OR AM I JUST A DELUSIONAL OVER-THINKER?
    Yes, you are a delusional over-thinker.

    Yes, what old Bill said.

    The world has no shortage of Blue Pill, White Knight, Manginas.

    In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

    #595684
    FrostByte
    FrostByte
    Participant
    19005

    My concern is will they point a gun at us forcing to get married and have kids in future?

    I doubt we will be an influence to birth rates as much as woman who are “waiting to have a family” and then it never happens.

    As for forcing men to marry the closest thing to extorting resources from unmarried men as been the bachelor tax. I don’t think it’s been used in the US, but it has been presented a few times. The State wants woman dependent of them, not men. Forced marriage would not further that goal nearly as much as making men wage slaves, and woman State wards.

    If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

    #595718

    Anonymous
    1

    Failed math, huh?

    The current world population is 7.4 billion.

    500,000 is 50% of 1 million.
    500,000 is 5% of 10 million.
    500,000 is 0.5% of 100 million.
    500,000 is 0.05% of 1 billion.
    500,000 is 0.00675% of 7.4 billion.

    I’m not sure you need to include the worlds population for an impact to be had.

    There’s a few more variables – the population of China is 1.4 billion, India 1.3 billion. Of those that have internet access in China, it’s heavily filtered by the government and you certainly wouldn’t be able to access a site such as this. I probably don’t need to mention India.

    That would immediately remove 2.7 billion of our captive audience.

    You don’t need to hit the world population before western governments start to feel the heat.

    I still agree, though. It’s a minuscule amount anyway, so I’m doing nothing more than splitting hairs.

    I’m just waiting for my flight.

    #595721
    OldBill
    OldBill
    Participant

    I’m just waiting for my flight.

    I’m waiting for mine too!

    Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

    #595728
    +2
    Puffin Stuff
    Puffin Stuff
    Participant
    25019

    Over the past few years there has been a correlation between the growth of MGTOW culture and reduction of men participating in the work force.

    Here is a graph showing workforce participation of men from 25 to 54, men’s most productive years.

    Y axis is lack of giving a f~~~ and dropping out of the work force for men. The first line from the bottom is 3% and the top line is 12%.

    The X axis is date. The first date is 1948 and the final date I think is 2016.

    The axis didn’t come out with the img paste.

    This is scaring the s~~~ out of every part of the political class. They’re just keeping it a secret so they can further their agenda to get all women to work. Good intentions.

    They don’t care that it clearly shows that men are being screwed by affirmative action and college graduation rates.

    The article the graph was taken from, from NYT’s David Brooks economist. But the post won’t link. NYT’s online version sucks.

    Perhaps they see us as a resource to reach these men and request our input into all matters about going your own way. Tell them why and why they had better get used to us because we ain’t going back to the plantation.

    Women can go f~~~ themselves.

    #icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

    #595910
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    Anonymous
    0

    “The State wants woman dependent of them, not men.”
    @frostbyte You are absolutely right sir. I totally missed that point. Thanks for pointing this out.

    @joller984-2 I will write a post pointing the similarities between India and U.S when it comes to feminism. Feminism is all about feminizing men. In India there is not white privilege, but upper cast/general cast gets the privilege. Its all the same idea, different names.

    I am very concerned about the people who are refusing to get married other than MGTOWs, like PUAs. More and more teenage boys are watching their school/college girls sleeping around and these boys will lose respect for them. At the end they turn into MGTOWs or PUAs. Those who get married, we know how that’s going to end. Anyway, at the end they refuse to get married unless there is such a strong social/legal force asking them to do it. When these boys grow up, they start screwing younger girls, leaving those who hit the walls. The laws are determined by the ‘feelings’ of these land-whales, for the land-whales, by the land-whales. Remember 2nd wave feminism was started by a group of lesbians asking women to practice ‘political lesbianism’.

    P.S 1: Many transgenders are now demanding straight men to date/marry them. They even want to make a ‘mandatory’ law for this purpose.

    P.S 2: In china women above 25years and unmarried are referred as ‘leftover women’. The Government is forcing these women to get married and have kids at any cost!

    Also,
    This is the first time in my life I felt very happy when people said I am delusional! Seriously! I should cherish this moment.

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