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Ive made posts about this before, but I want a straightforward answer from you guys.
I get: angry, depressed, and lose any sense of inertia to change my life sometimes. After getting your teeth kicked in, there are only so many times you have the resiliency to go forward.
QUESTION: HAVE YOU EVER LOST THE DRIVE, THE P~~~ AND VINEGAR, TO WANT TO MOVE FORWARD?
So many posts on this forum are about how great men are. How we create, design, and are driven to move forward. All of that is true, but it makes me wonder how many other men have been in a stagnant pyschological state?
I have friends in real life I broach upon this subect with, but they dont delve into the specifics like I can online.
Is this (the way Im feeling) something common to most of you? Or something youve experienced? Im f~~~ing sick of it. Ive been here before, and got out of it. But Im curious if other dudes have been in the same rut, and just dont admit it in real life.
Sorry if this is repetitive. Its important to me to know other men have been here. Is this common?
Resident cynic.
I did once. A long time ago. I learned real quick that no one cares about you, but you. No once cares how much money you have or don’t have. No one cares if you wake up happy or sad. No one cares if you have had enough to eat or not.
If someone ever says they care about any of these things for you, then they are lying and want something from you.
Don't stick your dick into anyone you aren't willing to put up with for eighteen years and nine months.
QUESTION: HAVE YOU EVER LOST THE DRIVE, THE P~~~ AND VINEGAR, TO WANT TO MOVE FORWARD?
Yes, I have.
Is this (the way Im feeling) something common to most of you? Or something youve experienced? Im f~~~ing sick of it. Ive been here before, and got out of it. But Im curious if other dudes have been in the same rut, and just dont admit it in real life.
I mustered the internal resources to overcome my temporary emotional swing, namely by riding it out until my glandular system ran out of downer juice and took up another emotional trait.
BTW, I did not, not, take action based on depression or anger. Well, strictly speaking, I lived up to that ideal most of the time but not all. I’m not made of wood.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
Go read the suicide threads on here …. you will see guys at rock bottom and what they did to overcome.
EVERY LAST MAN HERE has been down ….. a large number only find mgtow when they are.
Being down is human …. getting back up is being a man.
We all reach out to a brother and help him up ….. and by doing so …. we help ourselves also.
Look up ‘keep your frame’ as a man. It will help you I think.
The simple answer is …. you f~~~ing bulldoze through. Head down and march through the storm.
You will meet others as you do so …. you won’t fail …. get up dust off and go.
Being down is human …. getting back up is being a man.
This is it.
Now move on to the next thing. Times will be good times will be bad. Move on to what is next is what men do.
I think we all experience this from time to time, we are just human beings and we can’t go full throttle permanently (its not healthy if you try to do that).
It’s just a problem if you get stuck in a state like this for a longer period of time. I for one know this feeling pretty well and I even went through a real depression that lastet for more than a year. Take a break and find something to enjoy (NO VIDEO GAMES!!! Bad decision in such a situation). Go out, party hard, meet friends, go for a hike and enjoy nature, go on a weekend trip or whatever you prefer. Just DO something, break out of the daily grind to “refill the battery” and don’t let the bad thoughts permanently circle through your mind.
Everyone feels down once in a while, then it’s up to you to decide to get up again or not. 😀
It is a common failing of childhood to think that if one makes a hero out of a demon the demon will be satisfied.
Yes brother. We all go through it. It is simply a part of life.
However, I would recommend not focusing on the pain or monotony, but instead focus on the results it brings.
If viewed and handled correctly, you can find yourself embarking on a journey and possibly finding a new passion or interest.
The only thing more dangerous is standing still and making no effort at all.
Funny, isn't it? How women thrive on a mans time, attention and resources, while simultaneously telling him he isn't enough...
The simple answer is …. you f~~~ing bulldoze through. Head down and march through the storm.
Like Winston Churchill said, “Never give in—never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.”
http://sethadamsmith.com/2014/11/22/churchill-depression/
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
Anonymous42After getting your teeth kicked in, there are only so many times you have the resiliency to go forward.
I usually trek forward laughing while spitting out my teeth, it’s the ability to accept things immediately, make course corrections, and move on. My current troubles are a crushed digit tip that’s healing just fine, and this endless sluggish economy that leaves me no alternative but to eliminate use of the dollar as much as I can, to unhitch and not rely on any hopes of a vigorous recovery, in fact, I feel things are about to get much worse, I can’t help but use logic and mathematics to see things are headed toward an 18 trillion dollar destruction… Once you make peace, and accept outstanding threats for what they are (uncontrollable), the depression lifts and hope returns as you journey on your new course…
So, spit out your broken teeth, smile, get use to your new smile, accept your new smile, laugh, and move on!
Anonymous1QUESTION: HAVE YOU EVER LOST THE DRIVE, THE P~~~ AND VINEGAR, TO WANT TO MOVE FORWARD?
Yes, now and then I go to that place. Not by choice, I just can’t avoid it.
However, so far, I have bitten the bullet and moved forward anyway. There is nothing much you can do about it. It would be great if we could have any kind of “official” help, without being told that the problem is because we are men, or because “masculinity”. But unfortunately there isn’t. So I move forward. It is this or death, and I am not ready to die yet.
But then again, from time to time, I feel extremely happy of being alive. So I guess we have to take the good with the bad.
Of course, this site helps a little too. 🙂
That’s my take anyway.
Cheers.
I have seen videos pop up on YouTube, in the “MGTOWosphere” about apathy being a problem with MGTOW. This can catch up to you. If you get hope and a future robbed, you can end up not caring. Having reasons to go on helps, or you can get overwhelmed by things and feel it is useless to carry on.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
I’ve embraced the struggle. I’ve always been an excessive introvert, so my entire life has always been a struggle of my own mind really. I suppose something that helps me is that I actually enjoy my job. However, I still work to stay right where I am. I’m not really getting ahead aside from keeping up on my house payments. Not much is being saved because there just isn’t enough coming in. But aside from money, I guess I just let the days come and do what I know is expected of me. I’ve become an observer as far as society is concerned. If money wasn’t such a pain in the ass, I’d be a pretty damn content guy.
You guys have no idea how much I appreciate your honest input. A true heart felt thank you, to all of you. Its something sometimes I need when Im down. To know other men have been through this as well, is a game changer fir me.
My parents are dead, so I dont have many people I can approach on this subject. You guys delivered, and in spades.
Im forcing myself to take steps in the right direction. Completed a test tonight for a job I want.
I read an article on keeping your frame. Thanks for the advice. It was an inspirational read, and motivated me. Thank you bro.
Ya, Im an introvert at heart as well. So many intelectuals and artists have been this way and suffer from depression. I couldnt even SAY that in a females presence, lest they think Im “gay” but its true. Im an extremist: Ill either go out every night of the week, or be a hermit. But the ability to abstract and question oneself is primarily a MALE attribute, in my opinion. Because in order to do so, you have to have a sense of accountability and responsibility.
So interesting. Women and their “boof~~~inghoo” attitude. If a dude has a problem, AFTER dealing with all of lives problems on his OWN, its time to tell him to “stand on your own two feet”. No f~~~ing help, ever. Its insane.
Anyway, thanks guys. You ALWAYS deliver! I really needed to hear this and you all helped imeasurably.
Thank You.
Resident cynic.
Anonymous2Moving forward? I’m moving my own way. Which is at a snails pace forward.
Since I am no longer rushing to get married Im living life one week at a time, and every week I try do do as much stuff I personally enjoy, not giving 2 f~~~s about “moving forward” to some arbitrary goal.
For whom?
For what?
I’m very comfortable where I am now so a little stagnation isn’t going to hurt me. I’d rather enjoy my day then to waste time thinking about “the meaning” of it all. I just live and enjoy myself, and try not to be a f~~~wit to my fellow men.
We’ve all been there bro. I’m going through it now, it’s a constant struggle to really want to move forward. One day, I can see the light at the end of the tunnel, and realize I’m about to embark on an awesome journey, by myself for once. The next day, I’m all down in the dumps because I’m not going to have my wife by my side, or that I’m not going to have my two awesome dogs with me (this because it’s hard to find a place that allows two dogs no matter where you live, and probably want have the funds to pay all the deposits and extra rent).
However, I do know that one day in the near future, I’ll finally wake up and put it all behind me. I know this because of all of the guys here that have went through it, and made it to the other side just fine. Just as of right now, I’m still going through everything, well more like the beginning of it all. I’m just glad I found this site now, versus never finding it.
Anonymous42I’m all down in the dumps because I’m not going to have my wife by my side, or that I’m not going to have my two awesome dogs with me
@gunslinger, you’re looking at it all wrong! You won’t have your “arresting officer” at your side for non payment of child support! Ruined at the bequest of a narcissistic nightmare! Their only wives for one day (wedding day) then they become “man masters”, they stand proudly over you as one of their beasts of burden! No bigger waste than a man dropping his life at the feet of a woman,,, sheezzzzzz!
If you get a good one, I’m sure it’ll be different, “off with his body” instead of the cruel and discomforting “off with his head!”……
@tower Without a doubt I do look at it wrong, but only at times. It only takes reading a few comments on here to pull my head back into the game.
Their only wives for one day (wedding day) then they become “man masters”, they stand proudly over you as one of their beasts of burden!
I had a gut feeling back before I proposed that this is how it was going to be. That I would eventually just become a servant that does her bidding. But for some reason I didn’t listen to myself. And as it was happening, I just allowed it. Now I have the tools moving forward to never let it happen again.
When life gives you Lou, be Brad Pitt.
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