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Feminism / destruction of the family started in the black community. Tested there.
They are just trying to shame you.
These days some say no one has people anymore. We have tribes. This is your tribe and I a glad you are here.
Here here
"You meet a few exceedingly forsaken, Sit around the cooler refusing domestication" Aesop Rock
Anonymous6Can I be a tribal leader!!!!
I was brought up in a village in the countryside of the UK. My dad was an uneducated but tough alpha male country man. He tried to impart some wisdom into my stupid head on many occaisions. Mostly I thought I knew better – wrong.
However I always remeber two points he tried to get through to me.
1:There are good and bad white men same as there are good and bad black men. Don’t judge on colour judge on how a man acts.
2: It’s the hardest thing in the world to find a Good Woman.I miss him.
It's Time to get Wise
I was born and live in a country with the highest concentration of black people on earth (Nigeria).
White people still come to my country for business, tourist and vacation trips.
If all white people were racists, I don’t think they will want to go to a place where they know that about 98% of people there are black.
I think @sidecar‘s contribution was well put. Calling your self pro-black is like a white man calling himself neo-nazi or kkk because- Regardless of what people tell you, your emotions and racial sentiments will always blind you from being logical.
I’m not opposing people who want justice for their communitues. I’m only saying that there are reasonable ways to go about it.
Every community has its own struggles. A very good example is this one- the MGTOW community (whose members are men from different parts of the world and racial backgrounds)- a community of men who see through the bulls~~~ that feminism is presenting to the world…and is trying to check it as effectively as possible. And from my observation, this community is tackling its struggles/problems the right way.
I love my roots, my culture, my people (as every reasonable man should). But that doesn’t mean I should hate a fellow human being just because his skin colour is not the same as mine.
I wish everyone can see themselves as one race- the human race. Besides, it’s 20-f~~~ing-16! We have existing humans who have both African, Asian & European ancestry (all in one person). What do you expect those kind of people to identify as?
As regards white women treating black men better and black women treating white men better, I think that’s just a feminine thing.
Females will be attracted to anything as long as it can satisfy their needs/fantasies.
So if a black woman is treating a white man better, it’s probably because ‘white man= more money’.
And if a white woman is treating a black man better, it’s probably because…big black dick.(strictly MY opinion).
My brother make you no follow sheeple o. Look them and Go Your Way.Because everyone who had their s~~~ tight together, black or white, has long since left.
Correct. Obama is not merely a very poor president. He’s quite literally the worst president we’ve ever had.
Twenty trillion dollars in debt.
Sidecar is definitely on point.
Venom, I commend you on your personal growth and being able to see the truth of things. It is not easy to escape the trappings of one’s culture or ethnicity. The stuff, in tow as you pointed out. Can really drag a person down.
I think it’s amazing that you have outgrown so much of that. That is for many, a difficult process. I have my own culture and things which I don’t exactly approve of or propagate.
Don’t judge on colour judge on how a man acts.
That’s exactly my point of view as well. I look at the person, and who they are. Over ethnic and cultural differences.
Here in Canada, we don’t have the segregation that is in the US. We are a multicultural mix. So growing up, I’ve had black friends, indian, asian, european, etc. Always I sought to see who they were as people, when considering having relations with them.
I think in time, as more and more people wake up, there will be greater harmony. It was not that long ago, where blacks were not even allowed in the same places as whites. That kind of stuff, takes time to heal.
You’re understanding is definitely focused in the right direction. One of seeing the truth, and then removing anything that is holding you back or weighing you down.
I am not a model example of my own culture. Far from it. Nor would I want to be. I’d rather be a decent, and productive human being. Helping as many as I can while I am here on this earth. How else can we come together, heal and overcome the divisions which these various systems try to impose on us?
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. had it right. The Rainbow Coalition. He understood that in order to advance, to move forward, we would need to do it together.
The only way forward, is in unity. Division works against us all.
“He who takes an eel by the tail, or a woman at her word, soon finds he holds nothing.”
Your ideas gave you success there ideas did not. By that measurement you are closer to the truth.
A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!
The authors of racism aren’t even black.
That being said, nobody wants to be part of a losing team.I wasn’t born in the ghetto nor was I raised in a fatherless household.
A lot of the black community’s problems came from outside influences but that’s not to say all its problems weren’t self inflicted. Nobody told the hood rats to chased the fathers out of the house in exchange for food stamps and welfare.
59% of black women have children with more than one father and if you question this, you hate black women. Then there’s the interracial relationship angle. The hood rats have a problem with successful black men dating and marrying outside of their race even though it was a black woman who challenged the US government for the right to marry a white man. As a result, interracial marriage/relationships were legalized.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loving_v._Virginia
So whose the real sell out?The black community is dead and this is the f~~~ing culprit!!!
No you’re not.
I’m from India, and one thing I can tell you is that no other country can be as racist as Indians.
But that might partly be the result of 100s of ‘races’ in a single country. We got people that look like Chinese, to people that look like Africans. Hell, there are 18 official languages here.
Considering our current global image, you can be pretty sure there were lots of instances where people had to go against their racial bias and think as one single nation. Our history books are filled with this stuff.
At the end of the day, the truth and logic is all that matters. Don’t stress yourself out on having to go against ‘your’ people. You’re only with the truth, not ‘against’ anything else.
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
I’m from India, and one thing I can tell you is that no other country can be as racist as Indians.
Some of the ones I’ve dealt with certainly displayed an arrogant attitude and believed themselves to be superior, even though they weren’t at all. I guess that is why.
Anonymous1So it’s not really the “black” community after all. It’s really just the segment of the loser community that happens to be black. And as such it has more in common with the loser white trash neo-nazi white supremacist s~~~head community than the nothing it has in common with the successful black man. Seriously, spend some time observing the skinhead white trash and you’ll see the resemblance they have to the “black community” in everything except skin color.
Sidecar, is right on with this. Successful white, people and successful black people have a lot in common. Loser “white trash” and loser blacks have a lot in common. So much in common, that the race part disappears from the equation.
The crab bucket analogy is great. Whether you are black trying to escape the hood or white trying to get out of the trailer park. The struggle is the same. Losers hate watching some one succeed.
This is because they need excuses for their own failure.
When they see someone come from the same situation and make it work, they go ape s~~~. It takes away their blanket excuse for being a loser. In reality, they failed at life because of their own loser mentality. No one to blame, but their own damn self.
Anonymous6Your post is a great read and a honest insight to reality. I would say that what you’ve written about is and has been an open secret for quite some time. The liberal mindset is fractured in a variety of ways, however one is immediately applicable here and answers your question directly. When the liberal and PC narrative isn’t followed to a T then there is blowback. Your post follows neither, so as a result you actually would be called a racist by many. Think about what happened to Dr. Ben Carson, who is an actual brain surgeon after all!
It takes voices like yours to correct the false narrative. So it’s important for you to keep this type of topic in the forefront.
Anonymous6Your post is a great read and a honest insight to reality. I would say that what you’ve written about is and has been an open secret for quite some time. The liberal mindset is fractured in a variety of ways, however one is immediately applicable here and answers your question directly. When the liberal and PC narrative isn’t followed to a T then there is blowback. Your post follows neither, so as a result you actually would be called a racist by many. Think about what happened to Dr. Ben Carson, who is an actual brain surgeon after all!
It takes voices like yours to correct the false narrative. So it’s important for you to keep this type of topic in the forefront.
I try man. It’s just such a shame that black folks don’t get these simple things. At some point, we should get tired of being at the bottom of the barrel. I know the history, and all the adversity that was gone through. That should be motivation, not an excuse. And if it is an excuse, it’s only an excuse for the old folks. Why are the young people using that same excuse. You even have black lives matter talking about “Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome.”
And the biggest thing that wasn’t discussed in this post, was the population sizes. Just in 20 years, the black population has gone from 14% to 12%. I can’t wait to see that US Census Report in 2020. We’re literally killing ourselves. We’re walking a razors edge of extinction in this country. LBJ and Margaret Sanger will finally get their wish. Through black men killing each other, and black women having abortions, we just dont stand much of a chance. Give it another 20 years, and we might see that number in single digits. And that doesn’t even take into consideration the fact that black men date or marry outside of the race at 4x’s the rate of anyone else. Nobody in this country dates outside of their race like black men do, and the more children that are born from those unions, there will be less children born from all black unions.
There is no sense of urgency. And even i admit, i need to do better myself. I’m not where i want to be, but i’m getting there. But these folks don’t even want to try. And they lack the knowledge to know better and do better.
Am I A Racist?
No. You are a realist. I have read enough of your topics to know.
Anonymous6It’s just such a shame that black folks don’t get these simple things.
That is an understatement, and I’m not trying to be glib here. Quite frankly Mr. Obama demonstrated that it’s a whole new era for black folks in the good ole US of A and has been for quite some time.
At some point, we should get tired of being at the bottom of the barrel.
I’ll simply say that all of the affirmative action programs, TV shows showing blacks in a positive light, and black celebrities speaking out cannot and will not fix an ideological problem. Perhaps a spiritual problem on top of that. Cultural Marxism, victim mentality, and a dependency mindset rue the day. (By the way those things that I just mentioned are prevalent with whites too) have been so engrained in the African-American community that it may just take many decades to unravel the mess if it even happens at all.
You even have black lives matter talking about “Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome.”
Reference my last line above. It’s that kind of garbage, and I’m being nice, that is toxic to the extreme. Victim mentality is the apropos term for it.
And the biggest thing that wasn’t discussed in this post, was the population sizes.
Yeah I knew about this. The first time I heard about it I think it was concerning NYC. Don’t quote me here but I think that the population of just strait black folks is slowly going down there for all of the reasons that you’ve mentioned.
Through black men killing each other, and black women having abortions, we just dont stand much of a chance. Give it another 20 years, and we might see that number in single digits. And that doesn’t even take into consideration the fact that black men date or marry outside of the race at 4x’s the rate of anyone else.
What you’ve written really puts the BLM thing into perspective doesn’t it? I’m not saying that to be funny or snide. If black lives really did matter as much as they say, then these things would be addressed.
I’ve intentionally tried to stay respectful in this post and I appreciate your candor here. There are few voices like yours. Jesse Lee Peterson of Brotherhood Of A New Destiny is one that I listen too. By the way I’m not saying that you’re like him at all, just that he has said some things similar to what you’ve posted here and has been the only person who I’ve heard even broach the subject.
Cheers.
Am I A Racist?
As a black man, i’m expected to just be a good little soldier and follow along with all the bulls~~~ I see no matter how ignorant it may be…
Venom, you’re not alone, and it’s not just black people. I can tell you that my well-off, lily-white family did some amazingly stupid things that hurt their kids, and then was so bull-headed and resistant to change that most of their kids ended up in special-ed or on psychiatric drugs.
I had some of the same feelings about it that you just described. I didn’t want to bail out on my family and my culture, and I recognized that some of them had faced real hardship. (My grandmother was born into a sharecropping family during the Dust Bowl.) The problem was that when they had the opportunity to overcome it, they wouldn’t take it. They also prevented their kids from bettering ourselves, which forced me to wall off my mother (and to a lesser extent my father) in order to take the right course.
(That wasn’t plan-A, and I only did it after everything else failed. I had already tried being supportive and accommodating, reasoning with them, listening to their arguments, pleading, begging, asserting healthy boundaries and being firm about facts. The former methods just enabled them and the latter provoked them to be even more coercive and destructive.)
Sometimes there’s nothing you can do. One of my childhood friends grew up in a family similar to mine, and I had to watch him suffer on the drugs and eventually die just one day before Trump was elected. He was only 29.
I keep watching and listening for people who are ready to break away from that, but short of force there’s not much else you can do.
You’re right that color doesn’t matter. Motivation and self-control are what count. I would hire (or vote for) a go-getting black man long before I’d support a scapegoating dip-s~~~ who happens to share my race.
Precious few in the black community are willing to stand up and say what needs to be said,….taking the stones and arrows from the ones who you are trying to help.
mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/
OP – you rock!
I don’t think you need to feel guilty for not liking the behavior of some of your own people. It’s human nature to classify similar things into groups.
We do it all the time in the animal kingdom. For example their are hundreds of sub-species of Sharks on the planet ranging from the Angle Sharks to the Bullhead Shark Families. Each one of them has a different disposition and behavioral profile. For example a Great White Shark is much more aggressive than say a Whale Shark which eats mostly plankton.
Is it racist to classify all Great White Sharks as predators which will eat human beings by accident? No, of course not but we profile it that way because it is true. Some dog breeds are more docile than others too. A golden retriever is much more mellow than say a pit bull.
It’s a touchy subject when breaking down various types of human beings but they do exist. People from India are culturally and behaviorally different than say people from European Decent. A person of Japanese Decent is going to be culturally and behaviorally different than say a Hispanic person from Costa Rica.
The fact is that as a group African Americans culturally and behaviorally are just different than many White people. I find it interesting that many native African’s can’t stand African Americans. There are a lot of wonderful people in each race but we have to stop pretending each race of human beings will think and behave the same as another.
I lived with a Doris in England in the 1990s who worked for a big airline there. A black lad from Martinique lodged with us for a few months, he’d joined the same company and this was his first trip abroad.
He was a lovely guy, but very innocent to the dregs that inhabit Greater London.
He decided to go along to an African/Caribbean social centre to see if he could join a few courses and meet people from his own background. I remember the night he came back from his first and only visit, he looked really despondent. When I asked him what was up he said “I’m not going back, everyone is so racist about white people.” I felt for him, he was feeling homesick and wanted to meet some black people to hang out with and he got hit full in the face by the reality of some of the ‘vibrant’ black community in London. He got his own place eventually, but was back home within a couple of years.
I remember he bought a car, against my advice, for £300 off a local ad in the paper. I went with him to pick it up, it didn’t look good, but he was adamant. He was worried about driving on the left so I took it to a local Asda car park to let him practice left hand driving without killing both of us. He froze and then shunted it into a hedge LOL. Funny guy, and really sweet. I was glad when the engine seized on him a few weeks later, he was a moving deathtrap on south London roads.
Anonymous6It’s just such a shame that black folks don’t get these simple things.
That is an understatement, and I’m not trying to be glib here. Quite frankly Mr. Obama demonstrated that it’s a whole new era for black folks in the good ole US of A and has been for quite some time.
At some point, we should get tired of being at the bottom of the barrel.
I’ll simply say that all of the affirmative action programs, TV shows showing blacks in a positive light, and black celebrities speaking out cannot and will not fix an ideological problem. Perhaps a spiritual problem on top of that. Cultural Marxism, victim mentality, and a dependency mindset rue the day. (By the way those things that I just mentioned are prevalent with whites too) have been so engrained in the African-American community that it may just take many decades to unravel the mess if it even happens at all.
You even have black lives matter talking about “Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome.”
Reference my last line above. It’s that kind of garbage, and I’m being nice, that is toxic to the extreme. Victim mentality is the apropos term for it.
And the biggest thing that wasn’t discussed in this post, was the population sizes.
Yeah I knew about this. The first time I heard about it I think it was concerning NYC. Don’t quote me here but I think that the population of just strait black folks is slowly going down there for all of the reasons that you’ve mentioned.
Through black men killing each other, and black women having abortions, we just dont stand much of a chance. Give it another 20 years, and we might see that number in single digits. And that doesn’t even take into consideration the fact that black men date or marry outside of the race at 4x’s the rate of anyone else.
What you’ve written really puts the BLM thing into perspective doesn’t it? I’m not saying that to be funny or snide. If black lives really did matter as much as they say, then these things would be addressed.
I’ve intentionally tried to stay respectful in this post and I appreciate your candor here. There are few voices like yours. Jesse Lee Peterson of Brotherhood Of A New Destiny is one that I listen too. By the way I’m not saying that you’re like him at all, just that he has said some things similar to what you’ve posted here and has been the only person who I’ve heard even broach the subject.
Cheers.
I know about Jesse Peterson, he makes a lot of great points. There is no shortage of people who think like i do. Black conservatives are around. But our voices are shouted down by the masses who believe that we’re wrong or stupid in our thinking. I can prove and back up everything i’ve said in this thread with evidence. But they don’t care about evidence as long as it doesn’t conform with what they believe in.
With them it’s feelings first, facts later. If i ran for office in a black community, i would never talk policy. They don’t understand it, and never think about it. They want moral victories and not actual victories. They want the image of a black president and not the policies that would help their situation that comes from a black president. I can find mountains of evidence to show that Obama was a bad President for black people, and i’ll get shouted down because blacks look at Obama like he’s godly, and can do no wrong. I’ve seen it on Facebook, people i know and went to school with, saying that they wish Obama was still in charge.
Can’t win with these folks. It’s like their driving off a cliff and are putting their foot on the gas. But you can’t tell them anything. That’s ok though. Wait until Trump gets to welfare reform, ohh its gonna be a sight to see.
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