Alcoholics Anonymous never worked for me.

[Greg SilveradoParticipant 172]

I’m not sure if this subject has ever been covered it most probably has but I have something to add. When I was 22 years old and married for about 6 months, I found myself truly living in my own hell of my own making although at the time I didn’t realize it. My then wife gave me an ultimatum stop drinking or get out. Since my parents had pretty much cut me loose by then I have really had nowhere to go and was in not very good shape.

Needless to say it was much easier to enter and alcohol rehabilitation program then it was to live on the street and so I chose the former. I attended AA I did not drink 4 28 years. Although the program helped me replace alcohol as a crutch with AA as a crutch, strangely enough because I was in a relationship that was sick and unhealthy aren’t they all I never got any better mentally. Sure I climb the ladder of life change careers several times had two daughters with her and in 2009 got divorced. The divorce really was hell but not as bad as some guys and worse than others. Along the way I started drinking again. The first night I drink I took a shot of vodka for each year had been sober. So you got 28 years 28 shots. Because I had taken a couple of tabs of ecstasy I didn’t have a hangover the next morning period off I went. I always had problems with alcohol and of course I know why that is now due to my brain chemistry being all f***** up as it always gets when I’m with a woman. Fast forward to me taking the red pill. Once I had gone quite a period of time a couple of months without being around a woman at all and the stress that can bring on I found myself being able to take a moderate amount of alcohol and have no trouble whatsoever. Since I haven’t been with any woman or had them coloring my life in any way I have found that my temperament and outlook on life has changed tremendously for the positive period no longer do I use alcohol as a coping mechanism it’s now just a pleasant pastime. Course I know I can go back to Alcoholics Anonymous if it becomes a problem but I don’t think that I could ever go back there after taking the red pill. I just don’t think I could stand to sit in a meeting and listen to some woman ramble on and on about how abusive her husband is while a bunch of white nights and simps go crazy trying to help her. These people in Alcoholics Anonymous do not understand blue pill pussy bagging White knighting or being manginas. I’m so disgusted with thinking about that and what it did to my frame of mind read slave mentality there’s probably no possibility of me ever wanting to go back and why should I? I just wonder if any of you guys had ever been in the same position? I know a lot of you guys don’t like Paul Elam but I have heard him say the same thing and he worked in the Alcohol counseling business. It would be great to hear your thoughts gentlemen

Always expect the unexpected and gird your loins appropriately. It's a no-fault jungle out there.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

You can’t quit unless you want to. Even then it is hard, but you have to want to.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[DurdenParticipant 1051]

So you got 28 years 28 shots. Because I had taken a couple of tabs of ecstasy

Ecstasy and 28 shots of Vodka at 50. How did you not die?

AA is based upon the Principles of Christianity. A lot of religion doctrine contains blind faith in most aspects. This makes it easier for the masses to understand and accept. Organized religion is largely Blue Pill in its acceptance. When you swallow the red pill you begin to think for yourself and accepting everything without question is hard to do. They just trade one master (Alcoholism) for another (Unquestioned Belief).

Compared to what for example I believe. Which was that he was a Buddha and his teachings are just a guidebook. But most people cannot draw their on conclusions on subjects. It is hard and they would rather watch an episode of Friends for the 6th time.

It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything

[HitmanParticipant]

A.A. is a good source of info.
in the end it’s your value system .
what’s another drink REALLY worth to you ?
some quiet time to think about that and you will face yourself.
when you see who you are,
you must learn to love yourself.
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the women there will make you nuts.
f~~~ that ..
a real friend who you can talk to is better .
or a therapist…rent a friend..

[Mr. ManParticipant 2916]

Sounds like you’re doing a fine job of finding your own way regarding women and alcohol. Good on you!

[Anonymous 54]

Don’t Drink,don’t get involved with women. Lead a sober healthy life.35 years sober.without aa.

[BlacqueJacqueShellacqueParticipant 6890]

Greetings Greg. I also attended AA’s starting in January of 2015. Shortly after my girl made a similar ultimatum. She left me though, and the pain of her leaving me, my “powerless over alcohol”, and my internal self loathing all brought me to the program. I went to meetings for the first nine months. I moved north in September 2015 and stopped going to meetings due to inconvenience. I remained sober through until about two months ago. Although I still will drink to excess, my MGTOW mindset has made a difference. Jan is right.

Jan Sobieski wrote:

You can’t quit unless you want to. Even then it is hard, but you have to want to.

This drinking is a slippery slope for people like us. Best of luck to you Greg.

[SOLI2DEParticipant 745]

Works for me, 7 years, one day at a time.

“Do not give your strength to women, nor your ways to that which destroys kings.” -Proverbs 31:3-

[zacfParticipant 39]

Been sober for quite a while now. I started my journey of sobriety through Narcotics Anonymous, but it was because I couldn’t openly talk about my faith that I ventured away from it. My faith in Christ, prayer, and worship is what got me sober. Talking about my faith and what got me sober was really looked down upon in NA and AA. I wasn’t trying to push my beliefs on any other people whatsoever. I don’t believe in that. But, talking about what worked for me made people angry and they cliqued up against me and really excluded me from the group. I developed my support system through my church and I have been much happier by doing this.

"What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us?"- Romans8:31

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