After the rage phase?

[Russky2Participant 3086]

Some posters on here postulated that there are phases after taking the red pill such as rage-depression and then acceptance.

I have passed the rage phase, and have suffered the depression phase quite a bit to supposedly now transcend onto the acceptance. But the question that keeps bothering me is, what’s next after that? Are we to become our own race and completely abandon women?

I can live without them for sure, but when the thought of loneliness and living alone is a scary thing for me. My parents are getting older, and I know that I’m at risk of not making it on my own. Yet I know that it would be far more riskier to my health, freedom and financial well being to be with a woman..

It is really sad that the feminism movement is destroying itself, and forces men into going MGTOW. Just like in Matrix, when you take the red pill you see it for what it is, and is hard to accept that.

I wonder though will this wave of BS feminism reverse it’s own course, and will men and women unite once again or is there absolutely no chance of this happening ever again? I know I know this blue pill is trying to sneak into my mind, but f~~~ we are all human, so please try not to throw tomatoes at me. Anyway your thoughts on this?

MGTOW AKBAR

[BeerParticipant 11832]

I’ve often thought about this myself as well. The problem is even if feminism reverses course to some extent, all the adult women right now are already corrupted. They aren’t going to change…if women change its going to be future generations…but we’ll be too old to give a f~~~. Its not like you’ll go land yourself a 20 year old unicorn at 60, and all the 50 and 60 year old women when you get there are the same f~~~ed up women your dealing with right now.

In the end I think it kind of stinks I won’t have a marriage like my grandparent’s had…but when it comes right down to it the bottom line is a allowing a modern woman into my life offers me no benefit. Being single in old age might suck, but will my old age be any better if I get divorce raped between now and then, or if I get stuck with some miserable c~~~ I can’t get rid of due to wanting to avoid divorce rape? I think getting really old is going to suck no matter what I do…why would I want to do something that is almost guaranteed to make it worse?

[RoyDalParticipant]

Giving up core beliefs is a major shock to the system. Many of us go through the five stages of grief (the Kübler-Ross model) because the change to our thinking and emotions is so profound.

Here’s the Wikipedia page where the stages we go through are listed and explained: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[experiencedParticipant]

Anger is an appropriate response to injustice. IMO, unless a guy is a self centered son of a bitch, he is going to get angry when he sees injustice, as in his brothers here getting f~~~ed over.
IMO the danger is the formation of some sort of “”””etiquette””””.
IMO f~~~ that.
Some brother comes here nearly suicidal from getting f~~~ed over by some c~~~, then I’m going to get angry.
I don’t even want to think about the watered down extrapolated, “Well, you should be beyond that, after all you are now not in the rage phase.” BULLS~~~!

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[experiencedParticipant]

Beer wrote:

I’ve often thought about this myself as well. The problem is even if feminism reverses course to some extent, all the adult women right now are already corrupted. They aren’t going to change…if women change its going to be future generations…but we’ll be too old to give a f~~~. Its not like you’ll go land yourself a 20 year old unicorn at 60, and all the 50 and 60 year old women when you get there are the same f~~~ed up women your dealing with right now.

In the end I think it kind of stinks I won’t have a marriage like my grandparent’s had…but when it comes right down to it the bottom line is a allowing a modern woman into my life offers me no benefit. Being single in old age might suck, but will my old age be any better if I get divorce raped between now and then, or if I get stuck with some miserable c~~~ I can’t get rid of due to wanting to avoid divorce rape? I think getting really old is going to suck no matter what I do…why would I want to do something that is almost guaranteed to make it worse?

So, we are “stuck in the ring with them”.
“Hey Joe, isn’t it about time you put your arms down to your sides?”
“I don’t think so, my guard will always be up”.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[AnthonyParticipant 2281]

Russky2 wrote:

I can live without them for sure, but when the thought of loneliness and living alone is a scary thing for me.

If you’re lonely, just get a dog or two. That’s what I plan on doing.

But, I love being alone any chance I get. I feel more productive overall.

As far as red pill rage goes, I’m far past it. Some things still annoy the f~~~ outta me, like HR c~~~s, but otherwise, I don’t have as much anger about gynocentric bulls~~~ as I once did.

Now, I’m more or less in a red pill zen state.

Once you have a Fleshlight real vaginas become worthless.

[Anonymous 0]

Russky2 wrote:

[…] I can live without them for sure, but when the thought of loneliness and living alone is a scary thing for me. My parents are getting older, and I know that I’m at risk of not making it on my own. Yet I know that it would be far more riskier to my health, freedom and financial well being to be with a woman.. […]

As the others said, nothing is going to change the women who grew up with the current brand of feminism. They’re too far gone.

As for how you deal with that: Just don’t marry them. You can still be around them, have friendships with them, have relationships with them. No need to be lonely. Just don’t marry them.

As for me, I did two marriages for a total of 20 years, and I can’t possibly imagine marrying again. I’m delighted to be on my own. I couldn’t be happier. Last thing I want is a woman underfoot, ever again.

On the other hand, I’m also a social person. For me it’s normal to socialize in mixed company. So for me, it’s just a question of coming up with some ways to neutralize women when they’re being a pain in the ass. I wrote a post earlier about putting on an old wedding band in order to look like I’m already in a relationship and keep single older women from hitting on me.

If I can blunt women’s worst tendencies, then I don’t particularly mind being around them. As long as I can keep them at arm’s length, then I don’t mind having them as friends and acquaintances.

So I don’t think of myself as lonely at all. I have people in my life, including women. I just don’t marry them.

[Deadly RaverParticipant]

I’d say that after the rage and acceptance phase, you finally stand up again and start living however you wish. You can go wherever you want from here. It’ll be a little easier with what you’ve learned, but you still have to go there…………wherever “There” may be.

Learn from the past, Control the present, and you will know the Future.

[STORMParticipant 738]

First off the economy is f~~~ed, so the s~~~ty truth is, for people like myself, and maybe you as well russky (i’m not sure). The future is as black as a clouded night in the nebraska praire. I can either find an alternative way to make a living, or i can look forward to working slave labor jobs 12 hours everyday until death, just to have a decent place to live, and drive a car that is mostly reliable. I never learned the skills i would have liked to, such as auto-repairs/mechanics, because of a fatigue condition causing massive immobility, and i’m lucky if i can just hold down a very basic job.

Wish i had a better answer, but i’m still trying to figure out how to get out of the financial cemetary and mental wall of smoke as well.

If we listen to a female at all, It's no longer to find out if they're crazy, we know they're crazy, It's to find out what flavor.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

Russky2-

Interesting post. No need to be lonely.
You can still have satisfying relationships with women, just don’t live with them or marry them.
I have a few lady friends. One of them will go with me to cultural events. I have one lady I golf with on occasion. One lady comes over to watch old movies. But all of them know better than to pull any feminist antics.

The only time I was ever lonely was when I was married to a lady who didn’t love me.

If I ever retire, the first thing I will do is buy a dog.

You will make out fine.

[RedDawnParticipant 1391]

Learning to accept others for who they are and that people have different opinions to ourselves goes a long way in being content and feeling secure. Letting go of the hot coal you were going to throw at feminists so to speak. That doesn’t mean you can’t be assertive and fight for things you believe in. It just means you don’t hold on to useless emotional baggage. I started a new job myself recently and I’ve seen people at work who always get so angry about things, I accept that that’s how they choose to be and go about my own duties as if their complaining and raging were like birds chirping in the morning.

Prefer Peace to Piece wrote:

The only time I was ever lonely was when I was married to a lady who didn’t love me.

I can relate to that.

Even if you did get a partner as an older adult Russky one of you would die before the other with the other to live by themselves, unless you live in a shared rental.

It’s a basic human need to socialise, but you don’t necessarily need to live with others to achieve this. If you make friends or volunteer or find another way to socialise regularly then you can learn to be content with that. I think joining a sports club would be very beneficial as not only are you addressing your social needs, but you’re also keeping physically fit and getting out of the house regularly.

The most important thing of all is to face life one day at a time. It makes it managable that way.

If I didn’t learn to do this then I would never have completed my university degree.

When I go jogging and I see an obstacle ahead of me I go around it. Some situations in life may shock us with the obstacle that appears, that’s cool. It’s just a matter of thinking of how to get around it.

Courage is the key to life itself - Morgan Freeman

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