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I know us mgtows have already left the building, but interesting article written by a post wall tuna, who apparently realizes the issues with marriage (not even mentioning the divorce rape culture) is women. Pretty much shaming them for the same behavior pointed out time and again by RPers. There’s some BS and other fluff, but largely the article is somewhat ok as it does commit the unforgivable sin of pointing the finger at women *gasp* . Too bad the comments were disabled on the site, I can only imagine the hissing and howling of feminists and WKs. lol
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tracy-mcmillan/why-youre-not-married_b_822088.html
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But I won’t lie. The problem is not men, it’s you. Sure, there are lame men out there, but they’re not really standing in your way. Because the fact is — if whatever you’re doing right now was going to get you married, you’d already have a ring on. So without further ado, let’s look at the top six reasons why you’re not married.1. You’re a Bitch.
Here’s what I mean by bitch. I mean you’re angry. You probably don’t think you’re angry. You think you’re super smart, or if you’ve been to a lot of therapy, that you’re setting boundaries. But the truth is you’re p~~~ed. At your mom. At the military-industrial complex. At Sarah Palin. And it’s scaring men off.The deal is: most men just want to marry someone who is nice to them. I am the mother of a 13-year-old boy, which is like living with the single-cell protozoa version of a husband. Here’s what my son wants out of life: macaroni and cheese, a video game, and Kim Kardashian. Have you ever seen Kim Kardashian angry? I didn’t think so. You’ve seen Kim Kardashian smile, wiggle, and make a sex tape. Female anger terrifies men. I know it seems unfair that you have to work around a man’s fear and insecurity in order to get married — but actually, it’s perfect, since working around a man’s fear and insecurity is big part of what you’ll be doing as a wife.
2. You’re Shallow.
When it comes to choosing a husband, only one thing really, truly matters: character. So it stands to reason that a man’s character should be at the top of the list of things you are looking for, right? But if you’re not married, I already know it isn’t. Because if you were looking for a man of character, you would have found one by now. Men of character are, by definition, willing to commit.Instead, you are looking for someone tall. Or rich. Or someone who knows what an Eames chair is. Unfortunately, this is not the thinking of a wife. This is the thinking of a teenaged girl. And men of character do not want to marry teenaged girls. Because teenage girls are never happy. And they never feel like cooking, either.
3. You’re a Slut.
Hooking up with some guy in a hot tub on a rooftop is fine for the ladies of Jersey Shore — but they’re not trying to get married. You are. Which means, unfortunately, that if you’re having sex outside committed relationships, you will have to stop. Why? Because past a certain age, casual sex is like recreational heroin — it doesn’t stay recreational for long.That’s due in part to this thing called oxytocin — a bonding hormone that is released when a woman a) nurses her baby and b) has an orgasm — that will totally mess up your casual-sex game. It’s why you can be f**k-buddying with some dude who isn’t even all that great and the next thing you know, you’re totally strung out on him. And you have no idea how it happened. Oxytocin, that’s how it happened. And since nature can’t discriminate between marriage material and Charlie Sheen, you’re going to have to start being way more selective than you are right now.
4. You’re a Liar.
It usually goes something like this: you meet a guy who is cute and likes you, but he’s not really available for a relationship. He has some condition that absolutely precludes his availability, like he’s married, or he gets around town on a skateboard. Or maybe he just comes right out and says something cryptic and open to interpretation like, “I’m not really available for a relationship right now.”You know if you tell him the truth — that you’re ready for marriage — he will stop calling. Usually that day. And you don’t want that. So you just tell him how perfect this is because you only want to have sex for fun! You love having fun sex! And you don’t want to get in a relationship at all! You swear!
About ten minutes later, the oxytocin kicks in. You start wanting more. But you don’t tell him that. That’s your secret — just between you and 22,000 of your closest girlfriends. Instead, you hang around, having sex with him, waiting for him to figure out that he can’t live without you. I have news: he will never “figure” this out. He already knows he can live without you just fine. And so do you. Or you wouldn’t be lying to him in the first place.
5. You’re Selfish.
If you’re not married, chances are you think a lot about you. You think about your thighs, your outfits, your naso-labial folds. You think about your career, or if you don’t have one, you think about doing yoga teacher training. Sometimes you think about how marrying a wealthy guy — or at least a guy with a really, really good job — would solve all your problems.Howevs, a good wife, even a halfway decent one, does not spend most of her day thinking about herself. She has too much s**t to do, especially after having kids. This is why you see a lot of celebrity women getting husbands after they adopt. The kids put the woman on notice: Bitch, hello! It’s not all about you anymore! After a year or two of thinking about someone other than herself, suddenly, Brad Pitt or Harrison Ford comes along and decides to significantly other her. Which is also to say — if what you really want is a baby, go get you one. Your husband will be along shortly. Motherhood has a way of weeding out the lotharios.
6. You’re Not Good Enough.
Oh, I don’t think that. You do. I can tell because you’re not looking for a partner who is your equal. No, you want someone better than you are: better looking, better family, better job."He didn't marry until now, so he won't ever do it. Think about it, why would a man like him ever marry? It's too late to catch him. " ~some cunt
Interesting article! She does seem to have some understanding as to how men percieve women in this day and age. Yet I do share your suspicion ~BS, regarding the legitimacy of her wisdom. Where does it come from? Why does she say what she is saying? Should she not have left well enough alone, not making it difficult for other women by giving them accountability?
Articles such as these does seem to have increased in amount these last 2-3 years. The writer almost exclusively being a post wall woman with at least a couple of divorces on her record. As I see it, being post wall does leave you with nothing to lose in the dating aspect. If you have nothing to lose, you have no reason to hold back on the things you previously would keep a secret.
For all this article is worth, I can never imagine it being of use to women of today. It is difficult (if not impossible) to teach accountability to a person that has grown up thinking they are blameless.
It is an interesting read nontheless, a good find to contemplate on for a while.
Cheers!
The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal - Aristotle (384 - 322 BC)
Anonymous18It was written in 2011. A lot has changed in last 5 years. The things she wrote about are just common knowledge.
Post-wall hamgalaxies would ruin her life if she dared to write this piece in ever-so social justice ‘hurt no one’s feels’ era we have today.
1) A lot of guys (with or without character) would love to marry a teenage girl. They just don’t want to deal with her insanity/mood swings. Look at Joseph Smith (the founder of the LDS religion). He had two teenage wives, and he was a righteous dude.
2) This is not good advice:
if what you really want is a baby, go get you one. Your husband will be along shortly.
It may work for a few celebrity women—but those women are incredibly beautiful. Since women have a general sense of hypergamy, their marriage choices are very limited. A lot of single moms are too busy to go on a date, and this can be a deal-breaker for guys.
"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)
6. You’re Not Good Enough.
Oh, I don’t think that. You do. I can tell because you’re not looking for a partner who is your equal. No, you want someone better than you are: better looking, better family, better job.Special attention needs to be brought to that part.
Women fantasizing about someone “better”…. educated, wealthier, more established, more secure, bigger, taller, stronger etc. and when she finally MEETS a guy like that , he “makes her feel inferior”.
• Instead of saying “he’s smart” the modern woman says “he demeans my intelligence”.
• Instead of saying “he’s so dedicated” the modern woman says “he’s obsessed with work”.
• Instead of saying “he’s so accomplished” the modern woman says “he’s an ego monster”.The list of “why” on women who are unmarried against their own will goes on forever. That article could be a month long.
It’s a good article because she drops the pretense. Women are far more aware than they pretend to be, you will just never hear one say “I was such a bitch to him, there goes a great guy”. He’s just an “asshole” every single time.
She starts with “you’re a bitch”, but women actually teach each other how to be a bitch as if “men love” that s~~~.
It’s hilarious actually being a man in the middle of it all, doing nothing and just sitting back watching women make a train wreck out of it. And with all the bulls~~~ female advice they bang out, they won’t even ask a man.
“LISTEN LADIES!! THIS IS WHAT MEN WANT!!”
“NO!!! MEN WANT THIS!!!”
“YOU’RE NOT MARRIED BECAUSE YOU’RE A BITCH!!”
“WRONG!! YOU NEED TO BE MORE OF A BITCH!!!”
“Gone fishing.”.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Just pointing how that women saw those men:
– MBA
– minister’s son
– very nice liar and cheater who was just like my dadOne there, didn’t have a identity, she used what his father was to describe him. And obviously, the last one, when she was 40, looking like a mummy, she described him completely in a negative way, and more obviously, she included her father, who was her provider, as a comparative. Typical bitch !
Well, obviously she said things that are obvious to us, but like any other women who will read that, it’s just words, it don’t change a sick mind, nothing change a sick mind. Only chance do avoid any damage coming from women, is give them no power in your life.
Anonymous0Too little, too late.
Men are leaving at an ever increasing rate.Women understanding it and applying it are two different things. She sounds like the convict that is “sorry” after the sentencing or finds God after being in the slammer for a few years.
She sounds reactive not proactive.Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.
There’s a lot of backhanded s~~~ in this article. There’s a lot of blaming problems at men’s feet and a lot of AWALT language going on. READ the article and you can see this s~~~. It might seem like she’s got something, but then there’s a lot of “It’s not my fault, it’s men!”
Female anger terrifies men. I know it seems unfair that you have to work around a man’s fear and insecurity in order to get married — but actually, it’s perfect, since working around a man’s fear and insecurity is big part of what you’ll be doing as a wife.
Really? It usually annoys the f~~~ out of me. I’m no more “terrified” of female anger than I am of dog s~~~, but I don’t want either in my life. Typical shaming language. MEN MUST BE COWARDS.
And men of character do not want to marry teenaged girls. Because teenage girls are never happy. And they never feel like cooking, either.
More shaming language. Convenient that she was accepting all the attention and dick when she was a teenager, but now that she’s hit the wall, now it’s conveniently uncouth. IF YOU WERE A MAN OF CHARACTER YOU’D MARRY ME!!!!
Which is also to say — if what you really want is a baby, go get you one. Your husband will be along shortly. Motherhood has a way of weeding out the lotharios.
Again, shaming language and REAL MAN language. IF A MAN DOESN’T WANT TO MARRY ME BECAUSE I ALREADY HAVE A CHILD, HE’S JUST SOME LOW LIFE SEDUCER WOMANIZER! HE’S NOT A REAL MAN!
AWALT. This bitch is like them all, laying so many problems at men’s feet. For every slap against women there’s one against men. It almost sounds sarcastic and patronizing. “It’s your fault ladies! Men are so terrible!”
That’s what I’m getting from the article. Also, notice how women are always the ones wanting to get married. There are plenty of articles like this, but you don’t see this s~~~ for men wanting to get married but can’t. Really showing their true colors now. Remember how women needed men like fish need a bicycle? Who needs whom now?
Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.
After reading this a few times.
Nope
She does not “get it”. She still insults men, gives women an out for their s~~~ty choices, promotes trapping men with unwanted children.Female anger terrifies men. I know it seems unfair that you have to work around a man’s fear and insecurity in order to get married — but actually, it’s perfect, since working around a man’s fear and insecurity is big part of what you’ll be doing as a wife.
That quote in itself is proof enough. (For Me)
Most men aren’t afraid of any princess being angry. They are afraid of big momma government stepping in and brutally punishing them with all types of abuse.– I refuse to call it “big daddy government” because every “daddy” I know, tried to get their children to grow up, be responsible, and take care of themselves.
There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it
These had ordinal numbers; but really everything should be tied for # 1.
"Shot through the heart, and you're to blame, You give love a bad name, I play my part and you play your game, You give love a bad name."--Bon Jovi
1) A lot of guys (with or without character) would love to marry a teenage girl. They just don’t want to deal with her insanity/mood swings. Look at Joseph Smith (the founder of the LDS religion). He had two teenage wives, and he was a righteous dude.
2) This is not good advice:
if what you really want is a baby, go get you one. Your husband will be along shortly.
It may work for a few celebrity women—but those women are incredibly beautiful. Since women have a general sense of hypergamy, their marriage choices are very limited. A lot of single moms are too busy to go on a date, and this can be a deal-breaker for guys.
Yup, portions of the article are super off, and just showed how different men and women think, even a woman that supposedly understands men missed those points by a mile.
"He didn't marry until now, so he won't ever do it. Think about it, why would a man like him ever marry? It's too late to catch him. " ~some cunt
you want someone better than you are: better looking, better family, better job.
This reminds me.
Someone wiser than I posted how laydeez will always do their damnedest to classify a man, one to a time, as superior or inferior to them.
When I notice this behavior in progress, I’m given the choice.
“OK, let’s dance this dance.”
She will receive from me a steady look containing one or more of the following:
Vile / contempt / disdain / …
She will get what she’s after, a pecking order with her on the bottom.
This is not rage. This is not judgment. She is merely receiving what she initiated. I no longer depart such interactions – having “done the right thing”, and sarcasm “meh, just sucking it up / taking it / absorbing it / ignoring it.
The right thing is to put her in her place."It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
Women don’t really have to learn accountability.
Based on my experience the best they could do is pretend or fake that they are actually accountable. Until they catch their prey that is. Then, just like every other trait that requires character and discipline, she will discard this facade of being an accountable adult and show her true colors.
"Women are directly adapted to act as the nurses and educators of our early childhood, for the simple reason that they themselves are childish, foolish, and short-sighted—in a word, are big children all their lives, something intermediate between the child and the man, who is a man in the strict sense of the word. Consider how a young girl will toy day after day with a child, dance with it and sing to it; and then consider what a man, with the very best intentions in the world, could do in her place.” Quote from Arthur Shopenhauer, 17th century philosopher
After reading this a few times.
Nope
She does not “get it”. She still insults men, gives women an out for their s~~~ty choices, promotes trapping men with unwanted children.Female anger terrifies men. I know it seems unfair that you have to work around a man’s fear and insecurity in order to get married — but actually, it’s perfect, since working around a man’s fear and insecurity is big part of what you’ll be doing as a wife.
That quote in itself is proof enough. (For Me)
Most men aren’t afraid of any princess being angry. They are afraid of big momma government stepping in and brutally punishing them with all types of abuse.– I refuse to call it “big daddy government” because every “daddy” I know, tried to get their children to grow up, be responsible, and take care of themselves.
hmm, the men insecurity and fear is bulls~~~, but female anger does frighten me, there’s nothing quite like a bpd rager. They do not have a moral center. You don’t know if she’ll walk up to you, smile sweetly, and put a bullet between your eyes or knife in your back. If she’ll decide self hurt/hurting children is the way to go (blaming you of course) or if she’ll decide to simply rage like a lunatic and burn down the house around you. Get a bpd angry, and she’ll show you she has no soul.
"He didn't marry until now, so he won't ever do it. Think about it, why would a man like him ever marry? It's too late to catch him. " ~some cunt
Female anger terrifies men. I know it seems unfair that you have to work around a man’s fear and insecurity in order to get married — but actually, it’s perfect, since working around a man’s fear and insecurity is big part of what you’ll be doing as a wife.
What f~~~ing BS. Men are not terrified of angry women, they just hate being around them. No one wants to be around anyone who is angry all the time.
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