Advice regarding taking the big step!!

[VarunParticipant 2981]

..No, its not marriage.

I am talking about venturing out on your own.

There are still a lot of men (especially younger guys) who want to go their own ways, but they strive to find the right path because they cannot sustain themselves; they need others to take care of them, myself included.

For those of you who have successfully tackled the situation and are living on your own, not bounded by no chains and no worries; what would you say to those who’re still dependant on others (parents etc. etc.)?

All of your wisdom will be greatly appreciated.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[Anonymous 42]

Advice regarding taking the big step

Varum, these are hard times for the western economies. Things have changed for the worse. The pervasive socialism to fund the destruction of the family (first in the black communities here in the U.S.) then insisting on more of a bad thing ($$$tax$$$) to dress the self inflicted wound of socialism.
You’re in better position to advance faster than any time wasting pussy chaser. You need to become your own personal manager, an agent for yourself that’s a f~~~ing tyrant to any transgressor on your sovereignty. You could do something like renting a house with option to buy, and rent the rooms to other MGTOW’s, or at least men that don’t drink, use drugs, need to study, make the agreement so stringent the f~~~ups will think you’re Hitler reincarnated! It’s just per say,,,

Whatever you do, you need a split personality, like partitioning a hard drive, a section you go to summonsing your business genie, a real stringent asshole that protects your “nice guy” sectors from manipulation and detrimental programming.
No means NO, and when someone can’t accept the word NO coming from your business genie, they are to be terminated from existence. what I’m saying is TAKE CHARGE! No one can tell you what to do, it your life, it’s your path, turn on your headlights and start driving! Life is f~~~ing great when you’re the driver!

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

Anonymous wrote:

Whatever you do, you need a split personality, like partitioning a hard drive, a section you go to summonsing your business genie, a real stringent asshole that protects your “nice guy” sectors from manipulation and detrimental programming.
No means NO, and when someone can’t accept the word NO coming from your business genie,

I agree with Tower here. When I was a soldier, I put on my uniform along with the persona of Senior Non-commissioned officer. No excuses for anything but your very best. When I came home, the uniform came off, and I was a dad to my boys. These relate to ego states that we put on when getting the job done.

As for practical advice on getting out the door, I can’t offer any. I don’t know your circumstance, income, education, geographic location,age, or personal ambition.

That first step is the scariest. However, not the most dangerous. Better to face plant now when you have a support system than when you are in your fifth decade and have sons that rely on you.

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Varun:

Being on your own isn’t that hard. And there is a great satisfaction that comes from knowing that you can survive on your own. Getting out to the point of being on your own in today’s economy, well that’s another matter.

You will find that it’s not that hard to cook, clean, do laundry, etc. And knowing that you can rely on nobody and still get by feels great. If you don’t vacuum the carpet today, the sun WILL come up tomorrow. If you eat cookies for dinner, you will be hungry again the next morning and be able to make a better choice.

People way dumber and with way less ambition figure it out. And, as said before, if you aren’t wasting your time and resources on women, it will be way easier. You will figure out how to live within your means and have extra cash. The only times I was cash poor came from spending it on someone else.

Order the good wine

[rorickParticipant 682]

First step would be to learn to cook and clean, that makes you 70% independent,. for rest 30% you got to be financially independent so try to find a job, doesn’t matter if it pays good money or not as a MGTOW you are not there to impress the society or girls with your financial status therefore the money required purely depends on the lifestyle you want to lead or say simply to survive..

Start renting a room and live in it all your own (no sharing with friends cause who knows he might be a mangina).. draw your own schedules and rules and follow it.

[The Laughing ManParticipant 1020]

Become self sufficient in every aspect of your life. Anytime someone offers help do not accept and figure it out on your own.

Don’t ask for help, do it your self, else you’ll get nothing.

I thought what I'd do was I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes...or should I?

[Enjoy The DeclineParticipant 1719]

The Laughing Man wrote:

Become self sufficient in every aspect of your life. Anytime someone offers help do not accept and figure it out on your own.

Don’t ask for help, do it your self, else you’ll get nothing.

Great advice. I would also like to point out that if you are seeking experts/professionals to help you with something, at least know the basics on that topic so that you can also use your own judgement and even fact check the advice that expert gives you. I am about to go to an expert of human nutrition today because I am trying to bulk up on muscle, but I already know a lot of the basics in nutrition in general, so it is not like I am going to blindly believe whatever that guy is going to say like I do not have some sort of back bone.

"Question everything" - Albert Einstein

[RhinoParticipant 3477]

All great advice from my Brothers above. I would like to add that if you have friends who live at home some will try to take advantage of your situation and try to move in with you and leech. You have to cut these people out of your life if you are to succeed. When people see you living alone without a girlfriend they will assume you are gay, don’t pay attention to this form of shaming tactic ignore it. If you have any girls as friends they will see you as a utility to be used and try to worm their way into your life to nest at your place. Do not cohabitate with females, do not let them leave their s~~~ there as an excuse to come back and further use you.

They will s~~~ test you to see how far they can go to use you, just don’t let it happen. If they get a foothold into your house they will start draining your financial resources and you will be worse off for it. Surround yourself with people who are positive, read a lot of books and eat in, learn how to cook and clean for yourself become self sufficient. Don’t buy expensive s~~~ and save your money you will need it eventually because something will always come up that you didn’t plan for. When starting out don’t buy too much stuff to impress people like a lot of furniture because you never know when you will have to be mobile and move for a new job etc. Learn the ropes for a couple of years, don’t rush into things and you will be fine.

[mp357Participant 531]

hey man, i think youve mentioned you are in india, india is freakin tough to be on your own, literally everybody does the same thing, marriage and babies. you will be shamed and pressured because of you not playing the game. Dont cave, best of luck

[alchemistParticipant 484]

Anonymous wrote:

Life is f~~~ing great when you’re the driver!

Is right!

I’d suggest forming foundations, one of the foundations of sovereignty is financial stability (unless you want to go live in the woods- that is my plan B) so I’d suggest getting a job and saving or learning skills you can use to make money, e.g. car maintenance, plumbing, plastering/mortaring.

[OldBillParticipant]

Plenty of great advice from everyone in this thread.

I’d say it comes down to cooking, cleaning, and budgeting, all of which require some self discipline.

Of the three, budgeting is perhaps the most important.

Housework is incredibly simple, especially if you don’t let things go too far. You can keep a clean and tidy apartment or home by simply cleaning as you go about your daily routine. You should clean as you cook, put things away when you’re done using them, hang up clothes, and all the other little things as you go about your day. If you do that, all it will take is an hour or so a few days a week to handle the bigger tasks.

I generally do the big chores on the same days of the week. For example, I “field day” my two bathrooms – one is a full and the other 3/4s – every Saturday and it take less than an hour. I change my sheets, vacuum, dust, and otherwise handle the bedroom on Sunday. Again with the work taking less than an hour. I only “field day” the kitchen every month or so because I’m always cleaning it as I use it.

Before I had my own machines, I used to set aside two weekday evenings for laundry, generally Tuesday and Thursday. I’d make two trips instead of one big trip because the two trips took up less time in one day. Instead of spending 2 or 3 hours out of one evening, I’d spend less than 60 minutes or so while also reading, paying bills, etc. Many times I’d do so right after work having packed the care with my laundry and supplies that morning.

Develop good habits and, above all, plan to do things rather than just muddling along. Go food shopping with a plan. Make a breakfast, make a lunch, cook a dinner, and stop p~~~ing away money on restaurants and take-away foods.

All you need to do is cook, clean, budget, and show a little self-discipline.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Watch this.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[VarunParticipant 2981]

mp357 wrote:

hey man, i think youve mentioned you are in india, india is freakin tough to be on your own, literally everybody does the same thing, marriage and babies. you will be shamed and pressured because of you not playing the game. Dont cave, best of luck

Yes it is. Super hard. And you cannot middle-finger people because the don’t know what it stands for, so they’ll just ignore you and continue squabbling with you.

Rhino wrote:

I would like to add that if you have friends who live at home some will try to take advantage of your situation and try to move in with you and leech. You have to cut these people out of your life if you are to succeed.

That is a very important point. I myself find it particularly hard to show people the cold shoulder because I was raised to be ‘gentle and caring’.. but people take advantage of that. I’ve been fed a huge load of one particular lie: “Always be kind and nice to people and try to help others in every way you can” when it shoud actually have been “Live for yourself. Do not care for other people if you don’t benefit from them in any way. Good people are always taken advantage of. Don’t be a ‘good boy’.”

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

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