Advice needed: How to handle that post red pill hangover

[HuevonParticipant 68]

When I look back at my life, women have always given me some great deal of motivation to work hard. When I think back at teenager times, I remember having this big goal of moving out of my parents house to have an own apartment and get laid as much as I like, without my parent’s notice. The same is true for university and to some extent for my career.
Today there is no “great goal” anymore. No gratification awaiting me, if I complete this or that. Basically I do it all for the hell of it, because I am already satisfied with what I have achieved. All my materialistic needs as a single person are met. So I suffer a severe lack of motivation. I’ve considered getting a vasectomy to get back into pussy, but I hate the thought of self mutilation.
Zen Budhism sais to remove everything unnecessary from your life and just wait for something new to come in. Now one year has passed, since I stopped dating, and nothing really compelling has filled this emptyness yet.

Does anyone else have this problem? How do you handle that? Has anyone managed to get through with it already?

[Anonymous 3]

To be honest, I don’t see any problem at all.

You don’t have to have motivation and goals.

[NioZenParticipant 856]

You say ‘there’s no great goal’. You’ve done well, worked hard, ticked all the boxes on the generally accepted criteria for success. Good. Now what do you want to try? Not accomplish, just try. Nothing groundbreaking, just simple – a new language, a new skill. Life is a wonder – when you engage with it, even in a modest way, possibilities tumble out of it.

As for Zen. Meh. It teaches valuable lessons, and if you fully commit, no doubt you will discover the wonder of non-duality, but you’re not fully committed, which is why you still have desire. But that’s fine, life is for living. I wouldn’t want to go full Zen, I love to engage in life too much. Half assed Zen is an excuse for fear, procrastination, inaction.

Zack Hemsey can explain this better than I can:

We only dream this bondage. Wake up and let it go. - Vivekananda

[нσтησσвParticipant 830]

“remove everything unnecessary”

Then find yourself; who you are, what you like to do… and then just be selfish.

With everything out of the way, you should be able to better distinguish between what you do for women, and what you actually like to do.

Ie, say you bought a BMW car because it picks up chicks… perhaps you always wanted to get a nissan skyline 😉

My Goal: To Leave Society.

[MENGINEERParticipant 583]

A good saying would be “a rolling stone gathers no moss”

Try visiting new places and engage the world in your journey. Go on a hike in a National park. Speak a different language. Going to Thailand changed my life and outlook on women personally..

If you are an introvert, start a long term project. Build a car/bike/website. Any of these are possible to a MGTOW…

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

All very good advice above.

Ask yourself …. if I had been in a wheelchair for the past xxx years …… and just had breakthrough surgery that allowed me full mobility ….. what would I want to do?

Or you were blind but now have sight …. what would you do?

The answer?

EVERYTHING ?

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

MENGINEER wrote:

A good saying would be “a rolling stone gathers no moss”

That’s a good one, MENGINEER no doubt. Then again I stick to Tom Waits’ interpretation of this one which is:

“You got to keep movin’, after all no dog ever p~~~ed on a wheel of a car in motion…”

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[HuevonParticipant 68]

ILiveAgain wrote:

All very good advice above.

Yes, and below as well in the meantime. Thanks a lot guys.
Maybe I am standing in my own way here. I guess I need to step out of my little world that I’m in right now.

Over the last few years I have disengaged from formal society to a great extent. I drive an old car, that I repair by myself, I’m working on my own little one man house, I actually do have an oven there and a beautyful view, and I got myself some animals that see me as their leader when I’m around. I Just haven’t gotten far enough to move in yet, so I live in this crappy room that I rented. Stealthy, I did get rid of my TV set last millenium. This might be one of the reasons I went down this path so far already. After reading MGTOW I do spend way less time with women to spend more time with friends or alone in my garden. We talk about women a lot though, and they enjoy my dating advide. Sometimes I envy my friends for being so excited about their girls, which I’m not anymore.

But I recall myself on a party lying on the ground closing my eyes on my last birthday. when a girl came close from behind and I was all caught up by her voice and smell. Mabye I’ll keep that exact one in the back of my head as I proceed. When I look at your input, it’s all got something to do with staying involved and pusuing what I really enjoy. Even if I do enjoy having sex, why not just do that. Taking the freedom to act selfish is also a good point. I’m a little bit worried that women will realize though and i fear their revenge. I don’t want to end up as a child-support slave. But maybe I just need to get through with it. Let them draw their own decisions: “If you wish to be a single mother, go ahead, my sperm is the best” Since I minimized my income already I might not be their first choice.

Thanks for the Song by Zack Hemsey, Lucifer. It’s really beautiful. He sings about how people just miss slightly when they think they found the answer. In a way even he himself misses slightly, when he talks about how to apply a certain knowledge. I guess there are no simple answers, and sometimes it’s just about stopping to ask. You and him have a good point, that all this half-digested wisdom should not be used for disengagement.

When I think of the term “brotherhood of men”, then this would be it. I really apreciate all input you guys give me here. Maybe I’ll also spend more time reading in corners of this forum that are less related to relations~~~, to get a perspective on life that’s more positive. After all the red spill should be the beginning, not the end.

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