about child support

[UptownjesusParticipant 95]

This is a simple fact of life: If you give women power that can be abused, they will abuse it.

Whatever the original intentions of child support may have been, it very quickly got twisted into a way for women to “punish” men for hurting their feelings. It’s hardly about ensuring a child’s well being any longer. I have 1 child, and each month, when I make that payment, I’m acutely aware that his mother would probably trade the payments in for the opportunity to brainwash our son without my interference. This is not going to happen. One day, my 18 year sentence of restitution payments will be over. She will have squandered it, and I will eventually forget about it. But my son will have grown up with a Dad who periodically administered manly lectures to him beginning with “Son, let me tell you something about women…” This is something I think is important. I don’t believe the entire point of child support is to get women “the full amount”. I think the true intention is to quietly chase us off so that our sons (or daughters) can be raised solely by a gynocentric society that wishes to subdue them and make them easy to manipulate. Paying child support sucks. But sometimes, when you’re a man, you have to face the music. Maybe we f~~~ed up when we allowed ourselves to be entered into a contract that was clearly not in our interest (or probably even that of our kids). But there’s way more dignity in writing that check than there is in receiving it. The payments we’re expected to make aren’t usually reasonable, and sometimes they’re not even really that necessary. But we do it anyways, because men are resourceful. We figure out how to get by, and we’re usually better people for it afterwords. And the women we pay will undoubtedly be s~~~tier people afterwords. So f~~~ ’em. Let them have their handout money for the required 18 month period, and then let them rot. They’re not going to break us. Ever. Because we’re better than they are. Period.

#pancaketittyshaming

[KeymasterKeymaster]

If you reworded that into a limerick or sonnet…. and added a few “bitches and hos”… you would have a #1 rap single.

Every man is tested on some level by the universe for a period of time that is longer than necessary – where he is forced to “bide his time” and tolerate the situation to a limit you wouldn’t wish on anyone. I wouldn’t prescribe it, but it is character building. Maybe he remembers how girls didn’t want to dance with him in elementary school and he told himself “one day when I am 26, girls will want to dance with me and I will say NO and remind them of how I feel about it today”. Or your boss treats you like s~~~ for 5 years and you worked through long weekends while you watched someone else get promoted ahead of you…. when you did all the work.

I understood you completely here. And like I made a pact with myself to one day ENJOY IT WITH NO MERCY when the day of retribution came, I strongly recommend you do the same. It is one of the most wonderful things in the universe.

Sure, it looks like women get all the freebies and unearned perks and s~~~ is just GIVEN to them for no justifiable reason.
But it TRULY doesn’t do them any favors. And if you think they are “happier” on the whole… look closer.

Women have never been more miserable. Just when a woman gets used to the flow of attention or money or freebies and favors, nature turns off the tap and she’s not left with much except the time to reflect on it. With her cat… and the memory of her aborted children.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[UptownjesusParticipant 95]

Keymaster wrote:

And like I made a pact with myself to one day ENJOY IT WITH NO MERCY when the day of retribution came, I strongly recommend you do the same. It is one of the most wonderful things in the universe.

I plan to. We all should. Each time we pull out that checkbook, we get a little bit stronger. She gets a little bit weaker. Her looks continuously fade (Ours might, too, but who really gives a f~~~?), that nasty tuna can between her legs decreases in value, and then one day, bam! We get an immediate pay raise, she gets an immediate decrease in pay, and her usefulness has long since left the building. Now what? Well, now I’m going to use that check to take my kid to the titty bar. Let’s see if we can get thrown out for being too aggressive with the whores on stage while spending our entire wad on drinks and not tipping. F~~~ it. Today we’re men.

 

 

#pancaketittyshaming

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

As an aside … about celebrating … when I got full custody of my daughter, the CSA (child support agency) kept sending me letters about paying my ex child support …. for the daughter I have.

So I write back telling them the situation. All I get back is more and more threatening letters.

One day I get a knock at my door … a very sever looking woman from csa.

I invite her in …. and she begins:

Mr ILA .. do you love your daughter?

Yes

Do you think she deserves the best a father can give?

Yes

And a good father would do anything for his children.

Yes indeed

So you agree that a father should care for his child in every way?

Yes I totally agree

And one of those ways is child support.

Yes I think child support would be very beneficial.

Then Mr ILA child support should and must be paid ….. even if under treat of arrest. How would you daughter feel knowing her father is in prison?

I don’t know let’s ask her. (I then called my daughter from upstairs). I say to my daughter ….. mummy won’t pay you child support and this lady is saying that if mommy doesn’t pay …. daddy will go to prison.

My daughter said ‘why daddy, what did you do?’

I don’t know darling, ask the lady what I’ve done.

After which I showed her court papers … told her to fk off …. and when will I be getting my back payments.

To this day I’ve never had a penny or heard from them again.

However,  it was all worth it for that one day.

Seems the system doesn’t register the words ‘fathers with custody’

There is come a day my friend …. and what a lovely day it will be. KM is 100% right.

We’ll be here … ready ☺

[foolsgoldParticipant 5643]

I’ve been paying my extortion for 9 years. I got 7 to go. The ex won’t take me back to court because she thinks I’m poor. I’m making sure she keeps thinking that. CSA also thinks the same thing. CSA has advised her NOT to take me back to court. Their afraid of what they might find . It’s going to stay that way. Faking poverty is the only way to go in this situation. It’s to bad it has to be this way. When the clock runs out I will show my cards. I’ll watch her side of the family go completely insane. Tic, toc, tic, toc, tic, toc.

[RoyDalParticipant]

@uptownjesus, and All; the “Femstoppo stuff..destroy the family” thread explains the why of it. BTW, I like the titty bar idea. If I had a son, I’d do the same as soon as I could find him an ID saying he’s old enough.

@iliveagain and @foolsgold; I can only imagine what you are going through, and I thank my lucky stars that I am not. BTW, foolsgold, I agree with the poverty solution. It seems like the least painful approach to an impossible situation.

Keymaster wrote:

Every man is tested on some level by the universe for a period of time that is longer than necessary – where he is forced to “bide his time” and tolerate the situation to a limit you wouldn’t wish on anyone.

True, true.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[KeymasterKeymaster]

This is a prime example of what we’re talking about.

Suzanne Venker tweets “The War on Men is real. And it’s only just begun”.

…then posts a link of 19 year old boy who was just sentenced to 25 years for having consensual sex with some fraud 14 year old lying c~~~ on a dating website – because she misrepresented herself.
http://reason.com/blog/2015/06/16/male-teen-has-consensual-sex-with-female

“The War on Men is real. And it’s only just begun”?

AND MEN WILL WIN IT. MARK. IT. DOWN.

But men will win it. Mark it down. https://t.co/tkQVbVHNhf
— MGTOW.COM (@TheMGTOW) August 6, 2015

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[UntamedParticipant]

I’m done paying child support. I started back in 1999 and it just finished this past July as my younger one turns 19. I’m still in the arrears but since I don’t live in the country that ordered it I’m stopping the payments since the arrears go straight to the state.

She called me the other day ( after 10 years ) saying that my son doesn’t come home for days at the time, he doesn’t help his sisters or her and that that he dumped his high school sweetheart because she wouldn’t let him compete on motorcycles. She wanted me to “knock some sense into your boy!”

I told her that since she insisted on taking all three children away from me, alienating me from their lives and using the courts as a Man-Beater, and since she decided to tear up my letters to my kids instead of letting them read them, that her kids aren’t mine to discipline. That those kids obviously aren’t mine since they weren’t mine enough to at least keep even ONE. That any parenting advice I could ever give them were in those letters she ripped up and threw away. And that the next time she calls I’ll make it a point to hang up on her as often as needed.

What she doesn’t know is that my kids’ grandma has had contact with me all along for all that time and that I was able to talk to them over the phone for all that time. Thank God her mother is a real Christian lady!

The kids have my phone numbers for a few years now and it’s a great day for me when I can speak to them.

I’m curious to see her face when my son is going to tell her he wants to go to Europe live with his father, ha ha!

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Untamed wrote:

I’m done paying child support. I started back in 1999 and it just finished this past July as my younger one turns 19. I’m still in the arrears but since I don’t live in the country that ordered it I’m stopping the payments since the arrears go straight to the state. She called me the other day ( after 10 years ) saying that my son doesn’t come home for days at the time, he doesn’t help his sisters or her and that that he dumped his high school sweetheart because she wouldn’t let him compete on motorcycles. She wanted me to “knock some sense into your boy!” I told her that since she insisted on taking all three children away from me, alienating me from their lives and using the courts as a Man-Beater, and since she decided to tear up my letters to my kids instead of letting them read them, that her kids aren’t mine to discipline. That those kids obviously aren’t mine since they weren’t mine enough to at least keep even ONE. That any parenting advice I could ever give them were in those letters she ripped up and threw away. And that the next time she calls I’ll make it a point to hang up on her as often as needed. What she doesn’t know is that my kids’ grandma has had contact with me all along for all that time and that I was able to talk to them over the phone for all that time. Thank God her mother is a real Christian lady! The kids have my phone numbers for a few years now and it’s a great day for me when I can speak to them. I’m curious to see her face when my son is going to tell her he wants to go to Europe live with his father, ha ha!

This gas made my day. There are some people (old school it seems) that still have the milk of human kindness. Well done grandma ….. and you ☺

[UntamedParticipant]

ILiveAgain wrote:

Untamed wrote:

I’m done paying child support. I started back in 1999 and it just finished this past July as my younger one turns 19. I’m still in the arrears but since I don’t live in the country that ordered it I’m stopping the payments since the arrears go straight to the state. She called me the other day ( after 10 years ) saying that my son doesn’t come home for days at the time, he doesn’t help his sisters or her and that that he dumped his high school sweetheart because she wouldn’t let him compete on motorcycles. She wanted me to “knock some sense into your boy!” I told her that since she insisted on taking all three children away from me, alienating me from their lives and using the courts as a Man-Beater, and since she decided to tear up my letters to my kids instead of letting them read them, that her kids aren’t mine to discipline. That those kids obviously aren’t mine since they weren’t mine enough to at least keep even ONE. That any parenting advice I could ever give them were in those letters she ripped up and threw away. And that the next time she calls I’ll make it a point to hang up on her as often as needed. What she doesn’t know is that my kids’ grandma has had contact with me all along for all that time and that I was able to talk to them over the phone for all that time. Thank God her mother is a real Christian lady! The kids have my phone numbers for a few years now and it’s a great day for me when I can speak to them. I’m curious to see her face when my son is going to tell her he wants to go to Europe live with his father, ha ha!

This gas made my day. There are some people (old school it seems) that still have the milk of human kindness. Well done grandma ….. and you ☺

Thanks, ILive.

She’s had her fun for 15 years ( even got me kidnapped and threatened by her mangina brother-in-law to which the authorities pretty much ignored ) while I felt like a miserable wretch for all that time. She even lied on how much I was making at the final judgement, judgement which I could not attend since I wasn’t made aware of it until two days later, just to increase the CP. At the time, I was working for 8 bucks an hour and paying 750 in CP. I asked what I was supposed to live on but it seemed my existence as a Human Being wasn’t worth a s~~~.

I accepted my fate, vowing never to trust another weemin again and learned to live without children I love more than myself. I contemplated suicide several times but that would have meant that she and this system of things had won, got the better of me. NO. Suicide is what the femanazis want us men to commit. No bitch is worth my life.

I have suffered as much as my ex and this weemin-dominated injustice have had the power to make me suffer, me, “a good father” according even to my ex and her mother. Never cheated or hit her, only stood there taking her s~~~ day in n day out and I’m the one punished for keeping my mouth shut?

Any man with kids nowadays runs the risk of losing them without even being able to say “we’ll see each other again, I promise” before his s~~~ is all taken away. He’ll be happy not to go to jail.

This society asks us men to play ball while all the ammo is in the weemins corner.

Sorry, I don’t play poker with a tricked deck!

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[RoyDalParticipant]

Suicide is what the femanazis want us men to commit.

Good point! I had not thought of that, but I see you are right.

No bitch is worth my life.

Amen!

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[UntamedParticipant]

Thanks Roy. I don’t know if I’m right or not, it’s just the results of many years of pain and fact-gathering but I know I was definitely wrong in thinking that I, as a man, would have equal treatment in our society. I know I know, I was young dumb and full o’ cum and all I really had to do was try to understand why my father was the way he was. I thought he was nuts. Turns out I’m the one who was nuts for believing the lies in school and later the NAWALTs and the menginas.

Nothing like a literal kick in the nuts to clear your mind.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[UptownjesusParticipant 95]

RoyDal wrote:

@uptownjesus, and All; the “Femstoppo stuff..destroy the family” thread explains the why of it.

Excellent call. Thanks for turning me on to it. I’ll definitely be sharing this.

#pancaketittyshaming

[Anonymous 13]

F~~~ child support, when I get custody of my kids back, I’m taking them to Russia.  You all might hear about me and this case in the news because I’m not kidding.  I don’t want to deal with this psycho woman wrecking my children’s lives for the next 15 – 20 years or more.

 

F~~~ OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM – it creates problems socially – by making kids bastards who actually have a dad – and then those kids end up in prison half of the time – F~~~ AMERICA.

 

Having a testosterone fit today — have to meet with a worthless lawyer tomorrow – to no avail.

[ParmenionParticipant 0]

ILiveAgain wrote:

As an aside … about celebrating … when I got full custody of my daughter, the CSA (child support agency) kept sending me letters about paying my ex child support …. for the daughter I have. So I write back telling them the situation. All I get back is more and more threatening letters. One day I get a knock at my door … a very sever looking woman from csa. I invite her in …. and she begins: Mr ILA .. do you love your daughter? Yes Do you think she deserves the best a father can give? Yes And a good father would do anything for his children. Yes indeed So you agree that a father should care for his child in every way? Yes I totally agree And one of those ways is child support. Yes I think child support would be very beneficial. Then Mr ILA child support should and must be paid ….. even if under treat of arrest. How would you daughter feel knowing her father is in prison? I don’t know let’s ask her. (I then called my daughter from upstairs). I say to my daughter ….. mummy won’t pay you child support and this lady is saying that if mommy doesn’t pay …. daddy will go to prison. My daughter said ‘why daddy, what did you do?’ I don’t know darling, ask the lady what I’ve done. After which I showed her court papers … told her to fk off …. and when will I be getting my back payments. To this day I’ve never had a penny or heard from them again. However, it was all worth it for that one day. Seems the system doesn’t register the words ‘fathers with custody’ There is come a day my friend …. and what a lovely day it will be. KM is 100% right. We’ll be here … ready

 

Very similar to my experience, except I have two sons. I sorted it with one email to my MP and he basically put the CSA in their place. I stopped getting the threatening letters and soon received a few paltry payments from my ex.

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