Abortion is morally wrong — and it's sexist and racist, too

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Keymaster wrote:

SO THERE IS NO “WHOOPS”.

Which is why “the right to choose” is the ultimate argument demonstrating feminist greed and hypocrisy.

A claim can be made that birth control isn’t always effective. But you cannot make the same claim for abortion. Abortion is 100% effective at preventing birth. And since abortion is legal THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN ACCIDENTAL BIRTH. Every birth is the result of a woman’s sole, unilateral choice.

And if women have the right to choose and not men, then women should have the responsibility to pay. Not men.

The self serving hypocrisy letting women choose and forcing men to pay is so obvious that even feminist regimes like Sweden have no choice but to face it and consider “fiscal abortions” for men.

The TL;DR: of this is that feminists think abortion “frees” women from the “burden” of childbearing. But like so many feminist schemes, what it actually does is give men a necessary and indisputable argument to free themselves from the crushing fiscal burden of women’s reproductive choices.

[Zuberi TauParticipant 10606]

I personally don’t agree with abortion and the racist, psycho bitch who create planned parenthood deserves to rot in hell.
Population control is a sick business but it’s the only trump card that Machiavellian inc has right now.

[Anonymous 7]

I have no problem with abortion. Sure women should take responsibility but that doesnt happen. Abortion means fewer crime rates, less people, and more resources.

Side car mentioned some good points but only if the system were to change as a whole.

Trump 2016

[Zuberi TauParticipant 10606]

Anonymous wrote:

Abortion means fewer crime rates, less people, and more resources.

Those resources won’t be for us.
You have the state mafia to thank for that.

[VarunParticipant 2981]

Convenience cancels whatever morals/values there are in this world.

Take poverty for example. If we all really donated a portion of our wealth to a pure utopian system that distributes this wealth among every poor, world poverty would be history.

But we don’t do that.

Wealthy business tycoons do not care about the health benefits of the workers in his factory in China. All he knows is that labour is cheaper in China, so he’ll be making more money to fulfill his desires.

There were women who gave birth to their illegitimate children, and were denied a comfortable lifestyle. The modern women saw that plight…and said to each other: “F~~~ ethics, I’ll kill that baggage if it ever comes onto me”.

Self-preservation is the ultimatum in deciding what is right and what is wrong. MGTOWs, for eg, do not care if the world they live in gets destroyed outright; as long as they are safe in their bunker. We’re not worried “human race will one day become extinct if we chose not to reproduce” because, well, we couldn’t care less.

Same with the abortion issue: ‘if that life troubles me, I end it’ and no, you can’t say ‘irresponsible women’ because then they’ll drop that ‘Freedom is my right’ argument.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Keymaster wrote:

<Because it doesn’t take TWO to make a baby.

Women are the gatekeepers of sex and reproduction. Babies are not made unless a woman wills it.

The world could be awash in sperm five feet deep and women would still be responsible for any birth that occurred.

[AttonParticipant]

I’m pro choice because I support actual birth control, things like this.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

sidecar wrote:

I am losing a lot of the respect I had for you here, Doc.

Really REALLY losing respect for you here.

Obviously I don’t give a s~~~ about your respect.

You seem to be overly focused on religion and the state, neither of which I give a s~~~ about, either. If that’s the lens through which you see the world, we’re simply going to have to agree to disagree.

If you believe it’s okay to destroy human life for the convenience of an irresponsible women, then you’re complicit in murderer. If you think those irresponsible women are going to suddenly become responsible, then you’re a fool. And if you think that forcibly revoking the privileges of a person who has demonstrated they are not capable of taking responsibility for their actions is unethical, then you you can live in your world and I’ll thank you stay the f~~~ out of mine.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Varun wrote:

Convenience cancels whatever morals/values there are in this world.

Expediency trumps morals and ethics? You can’t possibly mean that.

[VarunParticipant 2981]

Stargazer wrote:

Varun wrote:

Convenience cancels whatever morals/values there are in this world.

Expediency trumps morals and ethics? You can’t possibly mean that.

No trumphing…no trumphing. I believe in a fine balance. For every man who doesn’t give a s~~~ about this world, there’s always another who’d sacrifice his life for it.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[narwhalParticipant]

Yep, I think I’m definitely dropping the whole pro-life/pro-choice and opting to take it a step back. I’m confident that if men were given more responsibilities over birth control in the form of their own birth control, then everything becomes a mute point.

Right now, women have all the options and controls, yet it’s still a huge mess. None of it’s working, because it’s in the hands of the gender that prefers emotion over logic, that prefers manipulation over work. Birth control is freely available to any woman. Can you imagine if the same were freely available to men, the gender that organizes and gets things done? Men would be lining up to get it taken care of, and the number of abortions, single moms, etc would fall off a cliff.

Yes, you could argue that condoms already exist, but they have their drawbacks, as do vasectomies. A temporary readily available birth control that men control would be highly effective.

The biggest issue would still be there though. Men would still trust women when she says she’s got birth control under control.

Ok. Then do it.

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