A wonderful story about marriage

[INFINITYmachineSpectator 83]

I have just recently divorced and I’m a new mgtow, and also new to this site. But I have a story to tell which is true, and it sucked. To be honest, I wasn’t sure what forum category to use, so if the moderator moves it, that’s ok.

In the summer of 2017, my neighbor decides he likes flying a drone around our windows. It’s happening at random times. Maybe the reader is already cringing. I tell my wife to keep the blinds closed for a while until I can settle this problem. I never were completely sure if she did or not. I had caught her on multiple occasions changing clothes with the blinds distinctly not closed.

Back to drone boy. I end up running into him in public. We have a friendly chat, he agrees to stop doing it, so I let it go. About 3-5 days later, he does it again. I could always tell when he was flying it around my room because it sounded like a weed eater. If memory serves me correctly, I believe he also did it a few more times after that.

So it is a Saturday, he has set a chair out so he could fly his drone and sit there, and I was getting mad. I decide to confront him while he’s in the act. But as I’m going out there, I didn’t even have a chance to say very much and the woman is grabbing me, pulling me, shushing me, and it was very bizarre. It seemed like she was trying to prevent me from an illegal activity drone boy was perpetrating against us!

Something happened to me when she was grabbing me like that. It was strange. I didn’t “snap” and hit her in any way. I just mean that somehow, I changed in my heart. I felt a lot of bad emotions towards her now. I was no longer concerned with drone boy (a grown man). It was so uncomfortable to have her touching me like that, restraining me. The way the set up was at that location, I would not have actually been able to physically touch drone boy, as in hit him or something. It was impossible. There was a boundary between me and drone boy that was uncrossable at that time. I don’t want to get into the physical details of the geography to explain that, as I want to keep it under wraps.

But still, she knew she didn’t HAVE to restrain me. So why did she do it? I too have been searching for that answer, and all I got is snake-eyes there. Apparently, she wanted to send me a message that she didn’t want to stand up for our rights. I know that much is true because in the lead up to this event, I call it “The Humiliation”, she was actively trying to ignore the drone, and pretend it wasn’t there, like it wasn’t happening.

The way I look at it is this: If traffic sucks, you eventually get home. If work is bad, you get through it, survive, and forget it at home. But if home is where the problem is, you are trapped. There is no escape. You’re cornered. What are you going to do, abandon your own territory? You have no choice but to take measures. And I did not intend at any time to be violent with drone boy, have absolutely no history of violence, and don’t own weapons. I am also not a physically imposing type of guy.

So how could I live with someone who had humiliated me, to this great an extent, for a cause that I thought was worth standing up for? I couldn’t. I had already been depressed through most of 2017 at that point. We had been fighting, but I thought that we’d make it. We had been married for 10 years, together for an additional 4. But I just had something come over me that I couldn’t explain, and still largely don’t understand.

Somehow, my heart had made a reversal in a big way. I didn’t want to talk to her, didn’t want to be around her, didn’t want to touch her, and the list goes on. I simply just absolutely abhorred everything about her. It’s like, there’s a “love” feeling (myth) that a man has for a woman, and it ebbs and flows, and sometimes gets rather lukewarm. But then it rebounds for a lot of people, and life goes back to abnormal. My heart was just dead on zero Kelvins. I don’t think that even the sun could have melted this icescapade. Was she now my enemy? I couldn’t believe that I was seriously wondering that.

The fighting and other assorted madness that happened after “The Humiliation” also was more or less just ambience. That event was maybe the worst in my life. I can definitely put it up there with the time my Dad gave me an absolute beatdown with his fists in the dark of night, by total suprise. (unfortunately, true story) How does someone endure that kind of shame in a relationship? If a person in a couple does it, I don’t know how. How can the relationship survive that? It’s too much, it’s over the top, red line. When an engine red lines like that, they often do have all kinds of mechanical and or electrical failures that will cease the operation of the vehicle.

So that’s why I got divorced…

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[CthulhuParticipant 698]

Wow. Just wow. Good to have you here. You’re free, it’s going to be a great new year. Put all the dumb s~~~ where it should be, behind you.
Talk, rant, vent. These guys are a great lot and have good advice.

Why vote for a lesser evil? #ICETHEMOUT

[ResParticipant 542]

Welcome to MGTOW! You’ll fit right in here.

Mr. Boats: "'Avoid the reeking herd! Shun the polluted flock! Live like that stoic bird, the eagle of the rock!' You know what that means, son?" -American Splendor

[redCanine3669Participant 90]

“When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near for to deliver her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and putteth forth her hand, and taketh him by the secrets: Then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity her.”- Deuteronomy 25: 11-12

[MarketWatcherParticipant]

INFINITYmachine wrote:

To be honest, I wasn’t sure what forum category to use, so if the moderator moves it, that’s ok.

Yes. The litter box is for junk. Trash threads are put here my the admins. Your topic is not junk and does not belong here, but I understand why you started it here. I would have put this in MGOTW central because it is a relevant general discussion.

Welcome again!!!

[TrailbossParticipant 1844]

Maybe she liked the drone spying on her? Maybe she had something going with this Chad with the drone (and camera)and didn’t want you to f~~~ it up? I would have been suspicious as hell and shot that thing outta the sky with my crossbow. F~~~ that: keep it off my property or else!

An educated, armed populace cannot be enslaved.

[ZarathustraParticipant 2246]

Welcome. When you get re-established post divorce you will find you home to be a safe haven where problems at work, traffic etc.. just melt away. I have been living that way for several years and it is fantastic!

[INFINITYmachineSpectator 83]

redCanine3669 wrote:

“When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near for to deliver her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and putteth forth her hand, and taketh him by the secrets: Then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity her.”- Deuteronomy 25: 11-12

Excellent OT reference. I’d like to see more Biblical quotes!

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[INFINITYmachineSpectator 83]

MarketWatcher wrote:

INFINITYmachine wrote:

To be honest, I wasn’t sure what forum category to use, so if the moderator moves it, that’s ok.

Yes. The litter box is for junk. Trash threads are put here my the admins. Your topic is not junk and does not belong here, but I understand why you started it here. I would have put this in MGOTW central because it is a relevant general discussion.

Welcome again!!!

Appreciate it!

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[INFINITYmachineSpectator 83]

Trailboss wrote:

Maybe she liked the drone spying on her? Maybe she had something going with this Chad with the drone (and camera)and didn’t want you to f~~~ it up? I would have been suspicious as hell and shot that thing outta the sky with my crossbow. F~~~ that: keep it off my property or else!

Sick, man! But you never know… She is a woman after all…

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[INFINITYmachineSpectator 83]

Yes I look forward to that.

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[RhinoParticipant 3477]

Trailboss wrote:

Maybe she liked the drone spying on her? Maybe she had something going with this Chad with the drone (and camera)and didn’t want you to f~~~ it up? I would have been suspicious as hell and shot that thing outta the sky with my crossbow. F~~~ that: keep it off my property or else!

There is no maybe about it this is exactly what was going on. He said it himself she was changing with the blinds open.

INFINITYmachine wrote:

I tell my wife to keep the blinds closed for a while until I can settle this problem. I never were completely sure if she did or not. I had caught her on multiple occasions changing clothes with the blinds distinctly not closed.

That right there is all you need to know that she was cheating on you. When she restrained you and you felt humiliated that was your final straw because deep down you already knew she was cheating on you with this guy. All the red flags were there but you refused to see it. Even now you are still trying to process the whole thing. Nothing left to process your hunch was right all along she was screwing around on you and you knew this but refused to see it.

Don’t beat yourself up about this brother it happens to us all you will eventually get out of the red pill rage and learn from this mess that she made. Welcome to the forums brother.

[INFINITYmachineSpectator 83]

Don’t beat yourself up about this brother it happens to us all you will eventually get out of the red pill rage and learn from this mess that she made. Welcome to the forums brother.[/quote]

Yes I’m definitely experiencing the red pill rage. But wasn’t it my own trap I set for myself? I went out looking for sex. Didn’t really like her. Moved to her town. Moved in with her. Married her. As I became mentally ill, the love just didn’t happen. I had been expecting that somehow there would be love. But my condition worsened sharply in 2017. She wasn’t understanding and supportive. She was hateful, eager to fight. So now I live alone. But it is better than where I was!

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[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

INFINITYmachine wrote:

Yes I’m definitely experiencing the red pill rage. But wasn’t it my own trap I set for myself? I went out looking for sex. Didn’t really like her. Moved to her town. Moved in with her. Married her. As I became mentally ill, the love just didn’t happen. I had been expecting that somehow there would be love. But my condition worsened sharply in 2017. She wasn’t understanding and supportive. She was hateful, eager to fight. So now I live alone. But it is better than where I was!

Not sure if love not happening was a problem. From my perspective, “falling in love” is just a mental illness to be avoided.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[narwhalParticipant]

It sounds like there is a lot more to your story then this humiliation moment. Personally I wouldn’t be too bothered by being restrained. It could most certainly be the straw that broke the camel’s back.

For your specific situation, I don’t know why you didn’t contact the police. What drone boy did is clearly illegal, and although the police may not doing anything about it, you could get your rights clearly defined.

But as far as your reason for divorce, there is clearly a lot going on here. I wouldn’t jump to conclusion and assume your wife is cheating. It sounds as if you married her because that’s what you thought you should do. She may have been the same. Now that you are single again, forget about her, don’t blame her for issues, and focus on your self improvement.

Ok. Then do it.

[INFINITYmachineSpectator 83]

narwhal wrote:

It sounds like there is a lot more to your story then this humiliation moment. Personally I wouldn’t be too bothered by being restrained. It could most certainly be the straw that broke the camel’s back.

For your specific situation, I don’t know why you didn’t contact the police. What drone boy did is clearly illegal, and although the police may not doing anything about it, you could get your rights clearly defined.

But as far as your reason for divorce, there is clearly a lot going on here. I wouldn’t jump to conclusion and assume your wife is cheating. It sounds as if you married her because that’s what you thought you should do. She may have been the same. Now that you are single again, forget about her, don’t blame her for issues, and focus on your self improvement.

Yes, there is much more to the story regarding not only the relationship but drone boy as well. I did actually contact the police regarding the drone. Unfortunately the only charge that the officer could have used would have been voyeurism, but the officer had to research this newly-formed law. He also said I would have to somehow prove that drone boy was flying it around our windows. I did try on many occasions to do exactly that. After the first few times, he started to attempt to become more covert. Getting a photograph, because of his speed and the limited time which I had to get out my phone and try to find the drone, was like trying to catch a fly with chopsticks. I ended up with a picture of him sitting in a chair with a remote control device, and another when he was landing it, but it seemed unlikely to have held up in court, in my opinion. The part that has eaten my lunch over the issue, before my anger switched over to her, was that there were several times, and I can’t prove it, that he distinctly flew the drone in front of our windows when I was there. And likely, I would never be able to prove it. Looks like he got some free ones.

Other important parts of the story regarding my relationship with her are long and complex. Suffice it to say, before we were married I did have severe mental issues, but I thought that they were not long term. As the relationship went on, and became a marriage, my mental health deteriorated until I could no longer work and was forced to go on benefits. This deeply disturbs a woman. She thought I had somehow misrepresented myself as being someone who would develop a successful career. My illness became so severe, I could not even cope with the challenges of entry-level retail jobs. I had between 50-60 jobs over the years. In the end, I gave up on the career thing.

Other important aspects of the marriage were problematic. We basically did not have much in common to begin with. Sometimes she would be interested in talking to me about 80s music, because I had wikipedia-ed a lot of information about all kinds of groups. But rarely was there some kind of interesting dialogue, a meaningful interaction. Much of our time was filled with silence.

By 2017, I had been suffering with a serious bout of depression (last summer). I had gotten frustrated enough that I was even trying an experimental new treatment, which was not effective. She began to start to hate me, argue with me, that is, when she wasn’t blatently ignoring me, which hurt a lot. When we did spend time together, she started to get obsessed with her phone. Rarely did she look up. She was pushing me out.

Eventually I had to make a decision, which was that if I was to regain any sense of mental health, I would not be able to do it in this atmosphere of animosity. I didn’t want to defy God over this thing, because I am a serious believer. I would have forgiven her for the way she treated me, and if we could have reconciled, maybe would have stayed. But all the talking I did with her about the problems, only caused her to get defensive and fight harder.

So I left…

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[INFINITYmachineSpectator 83]

Ranger One wrote:

INFINITYmachine wrote:

Yes I’m definitely experiencing the red pill rage. But wasn’t it my own trap I set for myself? I went out looking for sex. Didn’t really like her. Moved to her town. Moved in with her. Married her. As I became mentally ill, the love just didn’t happen. I had been expecting that somehow there would be love. But my condition worsened sharply in 2017. She wasn’t understanding and supportive. She was hateful, eager to fight. So now I live alone. But it is better than where I was!

Not sure if love not happening was a problem. From my perspective, “falling in love” is just a mental illness to be avoided.

Roger. Falling in love is a condition that a man experiences when a woman has committed him to her mindgame hex. She does it through a maze of promises and sexual allure. The man naturally will attribute all kinds of ideas that he believes about love to her, which in reality have nothing to do with that specific woman. He is in a hypnotic state, and realizes it not.

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