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My parents never told me anything about women. I am just coming to realize that my mother never told me because she is like the rest. She used my father for his resources, his position and because he was a “cowboy”. She believe that “cowboys” always take good care of their women, and she wanted to be treated like a princess. My dad has been in denial his entire life…he just cannot accept that she truly cannot love him, and when push comes to shove, only loves herself. He has a phd…he just can’t allow himself to admit he was conned so well. Since he is unable to admit her true nature, he could never tell me anything useful to prepare me for dealing with women.
My dad told me a few years back he picked my mom because my grandmother was a saint (she really was, very old school) and he thought the daughter would be as well. He would never admit it out loud, but now he knows he was wrong. My mother has faked illness and depression her entire life to get whatever she wanted from my dad. Still to this day she gets mad that he goes and does what he wants to do when he wants to do it….as long as he is only gone for a few hours at a time. If I try to take him out of town for a few days without exception she will suddenly become “ill”. I have finally convinced him that her “illness” whatever the flavor of the week might be, will not kill her so he needs to go do a few things while he still can.
He has now been diagnosed with a very rare blood disease that I am certain is from the stress of living with her for over 50 years. He has to take low dose chemo 2x a day now to keep his blood from turning into Jello. Since this has happened, he has been willing to go out of town with me away from her whenever he has enough strength. He is finally finding out at the end of his life that she has actually been manipulating and controlling him for his entire life…but now it is too late as his life is almost over.
I am coming to realize that by extension she has controlled my life through him. I could not take watching her kill him, so I left a great job, a great life and a great career in the big city to come home and try to save him from her insane control several years back. I believe I have bought him a few years. Now I sit here with limited options, growing older by the day in this small town watching my life pass by as I try to run interference between them.
2 days a go on her birthday I called her out. I told her she does not love him like he loves her. She is not willing to lay down her life for him as he would for her. She is not even willing to stop faking illness to get what she wants. She actually admitted to me that I was right, but she has no intention of changing, even if it kills him. I truly think she loves her kids more than him…whatever “love” means in that context.
All women really are the same….and they are incapable of loving a man as he loves others…this is still such a massive revelation to accept that I continue to think about it day and night in an effort to get some kind of resolution, some kind of peace, some kind of acceptance. No luck yet.
Anonymous1My parents never told me anything about women. I am just coming to realize that my mother never told me because she is like the rest. She used my father for his resources, his position and because he was a “cowboy”. She believe that “cowboys” always take good care of their women, and she wanted to be treated like a princess. My dad has been in denial his entire life…he just cannot accept that she truly cannot love him, and when push comes to shove, only loves herself. He has a phd…he just can’t allow himself to admit he was conned so well. Since he is unable to admit her true nature, he could never tell me anything useful to prepare me for dealing with women.
My dad told me a few years back he picked my mom because my grandmother was a saint (she really was, very old school) and he thought the daughter would be as well. He would never admit it out loud, but now he knows he was wrong. My mother has faked illness and depression her entire life to get whatever she wanted from my dad. Still to this day she gets mad that he goes and does what he wants to do when he wants to do it….as long as he is only gone for a few hours at a time. If I try to take him out of town for a few days without exception she will suddenly become “ill”. I have finally convinced him that her “illness” whatever the flavor of the week might be, will not kill her so he needs to go do a few things while he still can.
He has now been diagnosed with a very rare blood disease that I am certain is from the stress of living with her for over 50 years. He has to take low dose chemo 2x a day now to keep his blood from turning into Jello. Since this has happened, he has been willing to go out of town with me away from her whenever he has enough strength. He is finally finding out at the end of his life that she has actually been manipulating and controlling him for his entire life…but now it is too late as his life is almost over.
I am coming to realize that by extension she has controlled my life through him. I could not take watching her kill him, so I left a great job, a great life and a great career in the big city to come home and try to save him from her insane control several years back. I believe I have bought him a few years. Now I sit here with limited options, growing older by the day in this small town watching my life pass by as I try to run interference between them.
2 days a go on her birthday I called her out. I told her she does not love him like he loves her. She is not willing to lay down her life for him as he would for her. She is not even willing to stop faking illness to get what she wants. She actually admitted to me that I was right, but she has no intention of changing, even if it kills him. I truly think she loves her kids more than him…whatever “love” means in that context.
All women really are the same….and they are incapable of loving a man as he loves others…this is still such a massive revelation to accept that I continue to think about it day and night in an effort to get some kind of resolution, some kind of peace, some kind of acceptance. No luck yet.
What a story, I hope that you and your father may find peace one day. I am trying to make peace with the past and the present aswell, life is not easy when you understand what is behind the courtains.
On the way “love” works, I have seen it illustrated this way:
MAN >> WOMAN >> CHILDREN >> PUPPIES.
It never works in reverse.
Indeed a profound realization.That’s not really true though. The way I see it, you’re showing the proper level of authority. When the authority is established correctly, love can exist up and down the chain. When it is not there, love doesn’t work.
As an example, consider a man and a dog. Following the chain of authority, the man has authority over the dog. Will the man love the dog? Absolutely. Will the dog love the man? Absolutely. But what if the man treats the dog as an equal? Will the man still love the dog? Probably. He may love the dog, but feel emotional drained because the dog s~~~s all over the house and tears up all the furniture. The dog will has no respect or love for his man, and the dog is unhappy too.
Quite simply:
Man = Dog… does not work.Now, look at the modern day relationship between men and women. That is man = woman. Man is treating the woman as his equal. Does the man love the woman? Probably. He may love the woman, but feel emotional drained because the woman s~~~s all over his life and tears up his bank account. The woman will has no respect or love for her man, and the woman is unhappy too.
Thinking about this a little more, there seem to be a few other truths about the authority chain.
1 – It’s is common for those on the bottom of the chain to rebel against those above them. A dog will test his master. A child will test their parents. Yet in every case, assuming the ‘master’ does his job, the ‘subject’ is better off staying under the authority.
2 – When the ‘master’ fails to do his job, or the ‘subject’ rebels, the ‘subject’s natural inclination is hatred towards the master. The child hates their parents. The wife hates her husband.
3 – On the other hand, when the authority chain is broken, the master may initial be angry at the subject, because of the disobedience and destruction of their life and order. The husband is angry at his wife. The mother is angry with her child. Over time however, this anger becomes indifference. The master no longer cares for the subject, he simply wants it out of his house and out of his life. MGTOW.
4 – Once the master has left the subject, the subject will blame the master for all the failures in their life. The child will blame the parents. The woman will ask where all the good men have gone. And the master still doesn’t care.
Ok. Then do it.
My parents never told me anything about women. I am just coming to realize that my mother never told me because she is like the rest. She used my father for his resources, his position and because he was a “cowboy”. She believe that “cowboys” always take good care of their women, and she wanted to be treated like a princess. My dad has been in denial his entire life…he just cannot accept that she truly cannot love him, and when push comes to shove, only loves herself. He has a phd…he just can’t allow himself to admit he was conned so well. Since he is unable to admit her true nature, he could never tell me anything useful to prepare me for dealing with women.
My dad told me a few years back he picked my mom because my grandmother was a saint (she really was, very old school) and he thought the daughter would be as well. He would never admit it out loud, but now he knows he was wrong. My mother has faked illness and depression her entire life to get whatever she wanted from my dad. Still to this day she gets mad that he goes and does what he wants to do when he wants to do it….as long as he is only gone for a few hours at a time. If I try to take him out of town for a few days without exception she will suddenly become “ill”. I have finally convinced him that her “illness” whatever the flavor of the week might be, will not kill her so he needs to go do a few things while he still can.
He has now been diagnosed with a very rare blood disease that I am certain is from the stress of living with her for over 50 years. He has to take low dose chemo 2x a day now to keep his blood from turning into Jello. Since this has happened, he has been willing to go out of town with me away from her whenever he has enough strength. He is finally finding out at the end of his life that she has actually been manipulating and controlling him for his entire life…but now it is too late as his life is almost over.
I am coming to realize that by extension she has controlled my life through him. I could not take watching her kill him, so I left a great job, a great life and a great career in the big city to come home and try to save him from her insane control several years back. I believe I have bought him a few years. Now I sit here with limited options, growing older by the day in this small town watching my life pass by as I try to run interference between them.
2 days a go on her birthday I called her out. I told her she does not love him like he loves her. She is not willing to lay down her life for him as he would for her. She is not even willing to stop faking illness to get what she wants. She actually admitted to me that I was right, but she has no intention of changing, even if it kills him. I truly think she loves her kids more than him…whatever “love” means in that context.
All women really are the same….and they are incapable of loving a man as he loves others…this is still such a massive revelation to accept that I continue to think about it day and night in an effort to get some kind of resolution, some kind of peace, some kind of acceptance. No luck yet.
Both you and your dad sound like fine men. I wouldn’t be too harsh on him though. In a pre-red pill era sounds like he put some real thought into finding a quality woman like he was indoctrinated and it just didn’t go his way. Hell that’s happened to most of us really. But I respect what you did. I moved home to help with my dad as his health declined as well. I know it’s hard.
LILITH IS THE HEAD SUCCUBUS AND SHE LIVES ON THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
@math and @solid have the best comments here.
My brother make you no follow sheeple o. Look them and Go Your Way.@narwhal I feel like you studied my family
My brother make you no follow sheeple o. Look them and Go Your Way.Love is a lie, all there is between a man and a woman is convenience (FOR HER). There is nothing convenient about letting a female into your space. If you’re lucky she’ll only take half and you keep you b~~~~ and marbles.
Single guys come home, look at what’s in the fridge, and go to bed. Married guys come home, look at what’s in bed, and go to the fridge.......But the best representative of MGTOW is…………… an empty chair,.
On the way “love” works, I have seen it illustrated this way:
MAN >> WOMAN >> CHILDREN >> PUPPIES.
I’m calling bulls~~~, it goes like this…
Men/dogs/children- capable of love loyalty and honesty
women- incapable of love loyalty and honesty
Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....
PLUS IF YOU LOOK AT IT BIBLICALLY .
WERE THERE NO FEMALES AS PRIESTS IN THE THE TEMPLE.
SHE WAS A HELPER TO MAN. GOD WANTS OUR LOVE ALONE . NOT NIXED UP IN EMOTIONAL BS. TRUE LOVE . BLISS . COMMITMENT . SERVICE .LILITH IS THE HEAD SUCCUBUS AND SHE LIVES ON THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
The truth sucks, hurts, and can be depressing. We can delude ourselves, tell ourselves sweet little lies about love, women and society at large, or we can accept the truth.
Much obliged & could not agree more with how you delved into it deeper in your post than I did.
Going through the process was bitter for me.
Now that I am finally done going through that process it is sweet.
But, as I already said, only in knowing I wont play the sucker again.
Going through the process was bitter for me.
Anytime you realize you spent 40+ years (in my case) chasing a ghost, it is extremely bitter. But it is better to have finally realized it… What a scam.
Anytime you realize you spent 40+ years (in my case) chasing a ghost, it is extremely bitter. But it is better to have finally realized it… What a scam.
Scam indeed, Twist. I spent about 30+ years chasing after my soulmate. Then lowered my expectations down to chasing someone that would just love me.
I finally lowered the bar so damn much, I just knew I would at least find one that would treat me descent.
Anyway, as you so eloquently put it, I was chasing a ghost.
I was chasing a ghost too.
All of my girlfriends, at least those that made it to become intimate with me would get showered with tenderness and I would always treat them like you see in the best of the romantic movies.
If you treat a cat or dog like that, it will be your friend forever and it will build an emotional link or bond with you. And the animal will give back by cuddling and scenting all over you. Cats will get wild and sit on your lap forever. Dogs will do the same and crawl on your shoulder.
Sometimes customers were pretty shocked when their dog would do things with me the they have never done with anybody before. I would sit there, adjusting the satellite channels and there were cats all around me. Or the dog would lie down on my shoes. Or the pets would roll around my back and keep me warm.
Only the pets of neurotic single women would stay away and hide.
But people always told me that animals have a sense of love that nobody can fool.
“Mr. xxx, I you were a crook, than my dog would notice it”
“You must have a wonderful wife”
or “Your wife must be so lucky to have someone so loving and caring…”
They were pretty out of line when I told them that all of my girlfriends were almost annoyed and totally bored by receiving intimacy. They would lie there and let me do what ever I did, giving me a feeling of “Tell me when it’s over”.
I would stroke and massage their backs for hours until their pain was gone and they wouldn’t give anything back. I had “all the work” and weeks later not even a single f~~~in’ “thank you” would come my way. (Princess Entitlement Syndrome, I know…)
So what I found out: Women cannot love, no matter how well you treat them. No matter how hard you try, they won’t give anything back. And if you treat them with more respect and positivity, then they will soon get “feelings of inferiority” and leave.
That’s why they always replaced me with Chad.
If you want someone that loves you, get a dog…
In Germany we have a saying “Real love only exists among men”
(Echte Liebe gibt es nur unter Männern)
That’s why marriage is for gays.
And if men love their hobbies or their career this love is strong enough to keep him happy while living all alone.
There once was a time in which women would not get in between the man’s love for his hobbies and they had “happily married men”.
In the 70’s, the trend had started in which men were more and more bullied by their wives to quit whatever they had enjoyed.
And since almost all women have become “control freaks”, a man is way better off to leave them alone.
They control and rule their men just for the sake of controlling them.
I never saw any sense to give away anything I worked and saved for just to please someone that wouldn’t even kiss me or rub my back after I had rubbed hers for hours…
Women couldn’t hide that they are incapable of love and comradeship.
I would tell her up front: The word “girlfriend” contains the word “friend”, but a real friend would never ask me to throw my stuff into the bin.
I think we should change the word to “girlauthority” or “girlgovernment”
In Germany, married men refer to their wives as “The Government” (Die Regierung), which was another red pill for me while growing up.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
Yes, men are now waking up to the fact that women can’t love:
Like I said in the post above, there was a time in which women would tolerate things and hobbies that belonged to their men. Women would live with things their men had bought and would do so without nagging or complaining.
And so these two people got by. The man of the house could do his hobbies and had his distraction from his wife. He wouldn’t even notice that she didn’t love him. And she would only be there for her hive or the “circle of hens”.
But that is how it functioned somehow.
My older customers were mostly married couples like that.
Since women were given the belief that “they can have it all” and that “no women has to put up with anything in her life anymore” they have become compulsive, controlling, authoritative, possessive and repulsive towards their husbands.
Since they walk around the house picking up every tiny piece of “intruding dirt” or “things that don’t belong here” they also throw out their husband’s “useless s~~~”…
And they have the audacity of expecting their men to love them for this type of behavior.
Women whining about equality? They are the ones that don’t make it work.
As a man with integrity, I never walked around the apartment of one of my girlfriends telling her “what must go if we get together”… But women do that.
They are the ones that hamper gender equality.
And they do that bullying everywhere you look.
And men are waking up to the fact that women do not love.
And that it is not worth it to even have one. Without love, tolerance and companionship they are nothing more than a parasite.
Taking all but never giving anything back. And if they give, they take a 10-fold of favors in return…
Feminism has “blown the cover” on the way women are.
Men are getting smart about the system that has exploited them for centuries…
Feminists have slaughtered their “Golden Goose”.
Every man must finally realize that getting married to “one of those AWALTs” is like walking up to a random chick in the shopping mall and giving her your all of your ownership documents, saying “Here, take half of my s~~~, will you?”…
Who would do that?
Give all of your s~~~ to “somebody elses’ spoiled daughter”?
Just for a little “screenplay” that she puts on, pretending to “love you”?
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
If you want someone that loves you, get a dog…
So hard to fully grasp this, but when xW moved out with my daughters, I was frustrated, somewhat bewildered about “why?”, but was emotionally cold to it all.
A year later when my dog died, I cried for weeks. Never felt a loss like that.
I think I cried for the loss of love. When they walked away from me, I felt no loss of love, because now I realize there was none there.
I guess this is my morning red pill…
Wise words brother @gargamel !!
There once was a time in which women would not get in between the man’s love for his hobbies and they had “happily married men”.
There once was a time where women have more things do to instead of bitching around. Perfect words brother. I saw my mother, in her free time, she like to do crosswords and sudoku, my father, go fishing and camping or watch soccer on tv, why that works ? Because both of them are busy all day long, when they finally have some time, they are able to focus on what they like to do, instead of bitching around.
Today’s women have too much free time, they don’t have hobbies, so while men work, they do all their boring stuff, when her men get back home, they bitches about everything in a desperate way to get attention. You have a hobby ? She will just vanish that from your life, so she will get more attention from you. This blackhole that sucks attention from everyone will always need more, then comes the Chad, who will give her attention, if she do anal, and that will be a fair trade for her. Them comes Chad 2, Chad 3, and she always will need more attention.
Women are the most privileged being in this world, as you wrote brother, in your wise words of experience, things that I have experienced too, no matter what or how much you do for the “princess”, she will never return it. In her mind, just her presence in your life is a blessing that even if you die for her, you will be in debt.
The world forged us, brainwashed us, to satisfy them, MSM, movies, music, everything and everywhere, bombarded us with those kind of information. Everyone have his own story, but soon we start to connect the dots, we can see a pattern in common in all of us here, we were victims of the same sick behaviour, and the very same behaviour, AWALT !
As you said brother, about animals, they are far more loyal, and capable of true love, things that modern women will never understand. Hypergamy, the lack of interest in anything in life besides riding c~~~s to get attention, and any compulsive behaviour to compensate her empty life (cats, shopping, makeup, facebook. etc…), turned women into something that don’t worth the time, the effort, even to stay around.
This kind of behaviour that you described, can be only justified by one thing, they try to isolate her men, getting away from him anything that he likes, so he will turn into a complete robot, will work, to provide to her a better life, and besides that, he will be turned into a slave robot, all his free time, he will be forced to spend with her, doing things that he probably won’t enjoy. Women lack of interest in anything, just make them boring, if you observe their conversations, is nothing more than one trying to feel “more” than the other, just a battle using words.
If men were like that, don’t having any interest in nothing, probably we will be writing those things in stone right now, fighting wild animals to get food, getting back in our cave and be obligated to listen to our wives bitching about the cave being too small, too humid, our prey not being too big, or being too big, or no being what she wanted.
It is a bitter pill to swallow.
I am working towards semi-retiring within the next five years. I can’t let anyone, especially a woman, get in the way of my dreams and goals.
It is a bitter pill to swallow.
I am working towards semi-retiring within the next five years. I can’t let anyone, especially a woman, get in the way of my dreams and goals.
Yes, its a bitter pill, I still choke on it from time to time. But if you want to attain your 5 year goal, it is essential.
Maybe if we think of this site, its members, and the long-suppressed knowledge here as “sugar”, it will make it that much easier….
A Spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down
The medicine go down-wown
The medicine go down
Just a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down
In a most delightful wayI am a simple man who is very easy to please. Doesn’t take much for me to be happy and content.
My main concern with women is the investment in time, money and energy to deal with their endless demands and emotions. Plus the risk of divorce and stealing of my assets, child support and spouse support.
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