A Voice For Men Website Weak?

[Terminal MemeParticipant 57]

I’m about one year old in my MGHOW status so I’m still taking in a lot of videos, posts, comments etc. I went to avoiceformen.com for the first time and commented on a forum about the Zeta male (whatever the hell that is since everyone has their own definition)

The next day I was banned and my comment removed. My question isn’t about censorship or banning. That just struck me as strong evidence that they are jerk-offs and not worth going back to. I can understand people not wanting their website mucked up but in the end, I have to say that free speech moves mountains and exposes truth no matter how “icky” or untactful it is. Profanity and a range of other obscene forms of commenting seems trivial to me in the face of the value of Free Speech. The term Troll in definition and practice, always seemed ridiculous to me too–you’ll never hear me mention it again seeing as every person in the world is one.

I don’t know why they edited it and I don’t care–to me, the fact that they did it at all, makes them a pack of the worst types. (trying hard not to call them worse)

My question is. Can anyone explain where MGTOW is in relation to those clowns at Avoiceformen.com? I see their mission is somewhat admirable but I get the feeling they are neutered. We’re Men; spear wielding, world building, unapologetic carnivores that rule this planet–not politically correct, androgynous simps who tiptoe around female sensitivity. I understand our philosophy here quite well and fully recommend it to ALL men and boys if they have the capacity to understand MGTOW value but AVFM struck me as ‘say one thing, do the other’ type of cheap rhetoric.

Am I off base here? or is MGTOW.com the only true leisurely destination for a man gone his own way? Are all the rest compromised by wimps? It seems to me that they are trying their hardest to not take the red pill. They seem to want to dress up the problem and the solution.

Any and all criticism or enlightenment welcome. Thanks.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Terminal Meme wrote:

My question is. Can anyone explain where MGTOW is in relation to those clowns at Avoiceformen.com?

Certainly.

Here’s a piece on it which you can check out to have a better understanding… beyond that, I have added some more below:

/video/afvm-vs-mgtow/

We won’t compare ourselves to AVFEMME because we have only set foot in that wasps nest a few times, and we don’t speak about them or compare ourselves because we have established our own standards and requirements / parameters. One of the most important differences is our total non-wilingness to moderate. We expect MGTOW to moderate themselves, and everyone has done a great job. If we eject people it’s always women or one in a thousand extremely jealous assholes.

• 1. Sign up with a bogus email and you can expect to be trashed, and unapologetically discarded without reason, warning or explanation.

• 2. A MININUM amount of respect and courtesy for the website and our members.

• 3. Say whatever the f~~~ you want. C~~~, f~~~, s~~~, p~~~. You don’t have to agree with anything, but if you approach the forums like YOU just did, you’ll do fine and the brothers will enjoy having you around. Approach it like a woman and she will be smoked out within 3 comments or less. Being a bitch is hard work.

• 3A. Ease back on overly criticizing race or religion. Be fair.
Belief systems are very personal and have no place in MGTOW discussions.

• 4. NO GOODAM VOILENCE OR WISHING VIOLENCE – or DEATH – ON ANYONE. Yes, typing that s~~~ is only “typing” it, but we are the better men. We are not Jezebel.

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Terminal Meme wrote:

The term Troll in definition and practice, always seemed ridiculous to me too–you’ll never hear me mention it again seeing as every person in the world is one.

Agree 100% , and personally, I have said on hundreds of occasions. “There is no such thing as a TROLL online. Only comments by PEOPLE and responses by OTHER people.”. Calling someone a “troll” is not an argument and if you don’t like what someone else says, they are not a “troll” …. you are now required to step up the game and bash them over the head with a winning argument or shut the f~~~ up.

Terminal Meme wrote:

Any and all criticism or enlightenment welcome.

That is the BEST goddam attitude, and very sportsman like.
That shows a genuine thirst for knowledge – a willingness to be proven wrong.

I can understand people not wanting their website mucked up but in the end, I have to say that free speech moves mountains and exposes truth no matter how “icky” or untactful it is.

Yes. And free speech we insist on. We have no “abuse” or “report” buttons (until just last week in response to some c~~~ who came and downvoted our members) That ability is now gone and we hope to remove it AQAP. There should be no reason to hit that button. If anyone feels “abused” they can get the f~~~ out, MGTOW.com is the WRONG website for crying over what you read. Speak freely by all means. Expose the frauds by all means. And be PROUD of what you contribute. As long as you feel good in your gut about it, you won’t go wrong listening to your manstincts. We all know in our hearts what is right and what is wrong, that’s what separated us from them.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Terminal MemeParticipant 57]

KeyMaster, Thanks for your useful reply!     My respect for MGTOW.com was already high. It’s now multiplied ten-fold.

For my own good, I’m going to thoroughly read the FAQ portion of this site and the content you added here. I admit, I haven’t read enough. Thanks for your efforts. This house rocks!

MGTOW.com is extraordinary on all fronts!

Lite moderation that makes sense

1st class graphics and construction

A message that has merit and makes sense

Unflinching manhood in the face of politicaly correct simpdom

Even if you charged $10 each to join MGTOW, people would have to say that its worth it sense the site doesn’t run itself or build itself. I think we’re all grateful for it running smooth and looking great. Thanks and know that smart people stand behind you man.

 

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Been meaning to get back to you on this immediately after you posted. Read it right away, as I did with your comment on the article on the front end. Big thanks for that and we’re glad you see real value here. A big welcome to you on this first International MGTOW Day. Really hope to read more from you around the forum whenever you’re inspired to chime in. Cheers!

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

I was on a voice for men website, but not anymore.

They allowed women in it, they want to have a woman’s side of the story which is bulls~~~. And they kicked out the mgtow, which p~~~ me off, I met some good characters on the website, maybe their in here now.

Yeah but, voice for men forum is filled with  manginas men rights activists.

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

[MachinistParticipant 1]

There is a movement named “MD”  in one of  neighboring country. It is similar to AVFM. As well as AVFM, “MD” has pussified men (facepalm). That`why majority of men choose MGTOW.

[Anonymous 1]

I think RBK nailed pretty well when he referred to AVFM to as “A Voice for Housewives”, and their married man as “SheepGTOWS”.
And since we are talking about AVFemme I also thing it is extremely weird this sudden need for married man to want to be called MGTOWs. Isn’t the premise of marriage you sharing your “life” with your “beloved wife”? Why would you want to “go your own way” if you decided to get married, stay married and supposedly is happy with your marriage? I don’t see those men trying to leave their wives, then why this need to be MGTOW from their part? This is too similar to a woman’s attitude of wanting to have the cake and eat it too…

Even on the unlikely event of Paul Elam managing to somehow subvert MGTOW acronym to include married man, most real MGTOWS would just drop it and adopt another label (or, like another youtuber suggested, keep MGTOW, but then calling it: Men Going The Other Way. I found this pretty clever).

There are my 2 cents anyway.

Cheers.

[MagicStarBunnyParticipant 20]

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

[Anonymous 42]

MagicStarBunny wrote:

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy, I have no friends!

[mgtow_85Participant 752]

I tried to join the AVFM website once. Within 24 hours, my account was deleted for “not meeting the standard requirements of the members.” Whatever the hell THAT meant.

While browsing the forums, I realized that the ONLY voice for men on that website can be made public and the user not banned as long as it doesn’t offend WOMEN in any way.

They actually have posts on there from single moms whining about why no man wants to date them and other guys bashing MGTOW as a bunch of “woman haters.” It’s more of a PUA site than anything else. I would have considered it an MRA forum, but the women on there don’t give two f~~~s about men’s rights, except for the right that men have to marry and support women. Just as long as women can still retain their rights to divorce those men and ruin them at the drop of a hat, and their right to call men “bitter” for protesting this kind of treatment.

No one in their right mind would join a “male-friendly” site such as this when the owners are feminized. Within a year or two, the site will be nothing but feminists bashing men and the few men remaining on the site generally agreeing with them. I don’t even know why they call it “A Voice For Men” when men these days no longer have a free voice there.

Just like the forums on the “Men Are Better Than Women” site. The owner there is freely able to bash women, but any man on there who insults women in a way that he finds offensive is given a lifetime ban from the forum. Yours truly was on that forum, posted something in agreement as to what the owner said, and my free-spirited remark got me banned post-haste.

[…Spectator 1165]

MG 85: remember tonite as the nite that i +1’d you to 85. good to c u brother.

[mgtow_85Participant 752]

Thanks, ListenUp. Remember this as the night that I got you up to 686.

[…Spectator 1165]

MG 85: i will bro. high five and petron silver to you tonite bro. mgtow life is f~~~ing awesome man.

[…Spectator 1165]

+1

[mgtow_85Participant 752]

Ditto to that. I’m watching one of my favorite movies, “Tremors”, and didn’t have to fight over the remote with anyone. And the only noise in my apartment is from my little portable heater. No other heating source in my cheap apartment and it’s 15 degrees outside, but it’s my apartment and this is my good MGTOW life. Wouldn’t trade it for a wife in a house with decent heating any day!!!

[…Spectator 1165]

my heating bill for 2 months was 431.23. f~~~. living by the beach is expensive bro.

[mgtow_85Participant 752]

Wow. LOL. My rent includes all of utilities paid, gas, electricity, water, all of it. And the rent price isn’t that bad at all!

Just imagine how much it would cost with a woman using up your utilities. Everything costing double, or even three times as much!

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