A Suggestion regarding Reputations

[Road ManParticipant 5]

Interesting stuff, I hear ya.

[John DoeParticipant 743]

Or we can just get rid of reps altogether.  Just have likes for each post.

With that being said I think their should be a prize for the member who gets to -100 likes first.

[Anonymous 42]

OOOOO ME OOOOO ME! I want all the femflack, somebody toss me two cats”, CRUNCH CRUNCH CRUNCH CRUNCH CRUNCH CRUNCH, That’s better, I feel more normal now!

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Okay people, let’s loose the infighting, can we please?

Some of you don’t care about reputation, fine… protecting reputation isn’t a concern for you so it won’t matter if it changes or stays the same. But for some of us, myself included, reputation is valuable in a community and I would like to have some level of protection from wanton damage.

I’m not here to bait trolls or collect negs from feminists who are angry about my existence and I don’t see their scorn as a badge of honor. I’m here to share positive values with other positive individuals and I would like for the positive contributions of myself and others to have a chance to be fairly recognized, thus the change I asked for.

Having said that, maybe I should have also asked for a thread for flame wars. I retired my asbestos underwear many years ago so I probably wouldn’t post there, but if you guys need a place where you can speculate on each other’s gender, I’m all for you having such a place.

[John DoeParticipant 743]

But for some of us, myself included, reputation is valuable in a community and I would like to have some level of protection from wanton damage.

Why is it valuable?

Road man has got to go.  I am all for a heated argument, but this guy is almost completely irrational.

[John DoeParticipant 743]

Maybe instead of giving rep to each person, it should be done in reverse and given to threads and individual posts?

[Road ManParticipant 5]

@john Doe

Road man has got to go. I am all for a heated argument, but this guy is almost completely irrational.

You’re just full of s~~~ aren’t you. Explain to me how I am “irrational”. Explain it to me, please, I’m all ears. It takes no effort to jump on mg-towers s~~~wagon of circlejerking like ronnie and willie did. I guess you hate new members.

[Anonymous 42]

Doc, You’re right, The hell with the trolls, but I must admit, sometimes they certainly p~~~ me off, not for being trolls, but for intruding where they don’t have a legitimate say, I’m not going into their spaces (Clamunition Bunkers) but maybe I should go in there and sign up just to p~~~ them off. But no, It’s a wasted endeavor with no possible good outcome… I’ll stop stabbing them more than once, besides it’s killing a dead horse anyway…Until the troll attack, I was minding my own business, and posting only subject matter… I’ll chill………….

[Road ManParticipant 5]

OnT: I’ve been on quite a few forums where people have a certain amount of “thank you” or “likes” to give out per day. It would hinder the effectiveness of the spam-negging considerably.

[John DoeParticipant 743]

Explain to me how I am “irrational”. Explain it to me, please, I’m all ears. It takes no effort to jump on mg-towers s~~~wagon of circlejerking like ronnie and willie did. I guess you hate new members

Simple.  You are almost completely new (few days if I am correct) and are making demands and throwing insults.  When I was new to the site, I kept my discussions limited to my own little discussion topic and debated other people’s opinions without throwing personal jabs.

It is true that some guys who been here for awhile have committed similar behavior, but they already put effort into writing/debating/expressing fact/theories/opinions so naturally they will be favored a little more.  You are irrational to think that you can come in and make demands when nobody knows who the f~~~ you are.  This is really an emotional argument more than anything, however many of the men here are more emotionally grounded then you are.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

I never thought I would have to explain to someone why reputation is valuable.

Every interaction you have with another person carries some element of risk. There are three primary methods of risk mitigation… avoid the risks to the best of your ability, know the risks and be prepared to cover your own losses, or insure against the risks by basically paying someone else to know and take the risks upon themselves.

A vital part of knowing the risks, either so you can avoid them, prepare for them or pay a reasonable price to have them abated for you, is to be aware of the probability for a given event to occur or, as is more often the case, the likelyhood that a key individual is up to the task they have taken upon themselves. Because each of us can not individually know every other person’s history and explore all possible interactions with them prior to entrusting them, we rely on their reputation… the word of other people who do know them and have interacted with them in the past.

You want a good pizza, you look for reviews. Someone wants to lend you credit, they look at your FICA score. You need a new job, you ask a friend to put in a word for you. You’re looking for a new partnership, you review resumes or consult LinkedIn or speak to previous employers. All of these activities are based on reputation and they provide you with the ability to possibly know something about the character and trustworthiness of the individual in question by way of others who you do know and already trust.

So when I see someone who gets regular thumbs ups from KeyMaster, say, and I respect and admire what he says, then I have some sense that the person he is up voting is also somewhat more worthy of my attention that someone with no reputation or who has been down voted by him. This way I don’t have to do all the research on every new member of the community myself, I can rely on the values of thie community as a whole to give me guidance… and then as more people come in and receive more positive reputation, the community grows stronger.

But without reputation, people are less likely to trust each other and infighting comes as a result… something we are seeing more and more of here.

Does that make sense?

[Road ManParticipant 5]

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Simple.  You are almost completely new (few days if I am correct) and are making demands and throwing insults.  When I was new to the site, I kept my discussions limited to my own little discussion topic and debated other people’s opinions without throwing personal jabs.

It is true that some guys who been here for awhile have committed similar behavior, but they already put effort into writing/debating/expressing fact/theories/opinions so naturally they will be favored a little more.  You are irrational to think that you can come in and make demands when nobody knows who the f~~~ you are.  This is really an emotional argument more than anything, however many of the men here are more emotionally grounded then you are.

I’m not making demands. I wasn’t insulting anyone. I don’t care how much effort you put into “writing/debating/expressing/whatever” if you pop up and start hurling insults and accusations at me. You don’t get privilege of being a dick because you have a registration date prior to mine. “many of the men here are more emotionally grounded then you are”…. do you even listen to yourself or do you just like hearing your own voice?

[Anonymous 42]

@doc, You’re making perfect sense to me, I totally understand, I’m not one to argue with reason.. Thanks Doc…..

P.S. I’ve never participated in any form of blogging, threads, or posts,…Till You-Tube and MGTOW….

[Terminal MemeParticipant 57]

I can offer no solution but I can say this. The censoring of free speech and moderators on many sites and on YouTube drives both sides wild on every debate especially Atheism lately. My personal opinion is to let ’em bloody up the pages unless is so incredibly disruptive that no conversing can even take place like when AOL came out and the people made giant art posters out of keyboard characters filling the whole page.

As far as thumb points and Rep points, I’d leave ’em up since I do actually look at them to get some bearing on the general census. I’d predict that true MGTOW here will always outnumber and outvote those trolling the water for controversy.

My red pill is sometimes just standing behind the 1st amendment. If Roadman is a man then I’m sure he can convince us with a short essay about what its like to own a penis. Lets hear it Roadman, please elegantly describe the sensations and caveats of having a dick and b~~~~ permanently attached to your body. If I had to, I think I could convince fellow men of my gender via this avenue.

[Anonymous 23]

Road Woman, for someone who doesn’t care, you are doing a remarkable job of appearing to deeply care about receiving the validation of the men here.

[John DoeParticipant 743]

Doc:

Does that make sense?

Risk mitigation, I understand where you are coming from.  However with reputations comes certain “elitism” within the community and I seen what happened on the previous site when that was involved.  Reputation comes with risk mitigation, yes, but it also comes with a certain level of dominance of some members over the others.  Keymaster, has no rep and he has plenty of good and interesting posts we acknowledge all the time.  We know his position as administrator (and those positions are necessary).  He informs/argues/opinionates through careful observation and argument, not by the number of likes he has on his personal status.

Which is why I think it would be an interesting experiment to reverse the roles and instead of the individual’s getting the reps, the threads and posts get them instead.  The same, if not more, level of work would be require for each individual but it allows us to judge the argument for argument’s sake, not simply by who is posting it.

You don’t get privilege of being a dick because you have a registration date prior to mine

I’ll make my argument even simpler.  I don’t know you, never read any of your thoughts, and about 2/3+ of what I read involves retaliatory insults.  Listening to you makes me feel like I am wasting my time.

As I said before this is just my opinion.  It is an opinion.  I could be right or wrong.  It is just an opinion.  I premised my argument with the fact that is was emotional only.  In the end, I really don’t care whether you stay or leave.

 

 

[Anonymous 23]

John, you shouldn’t waste any more of your valuable time on this ass(Road Woman that is, not Doc).

[RennieParticipant]

Who’s ronnie, is that your boyfriend?

[Anonymous 42]

I watch my credibility (for what it’s worth)spiral downward like my grades in JR High… I overcame that, and I’ll overcome this… F~~~ I’m sounding like a pussy… F~~~ that! I still don’t care, I know who I am, and that’s all that’s really important! However, out of respect for those who care, and have earned their reputation, I’ll avoid antagonizing the adversary too much, CRUNCH……

[RennieParticipant]

Not sure if the orderlies took him away yet or not. I guess we’ll find out pretty soon.

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