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Jim01 3 years, 3 months ago.
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Has anyone of you guys still talk with blue pill men?
If you do, how many times do they tell you that you are “bitter”, “angry”, or “just had a bad experience with women and marriage”, “haven’t choosen the right one”, or “never truly loved someone”? Even when you are a Monk?
You know, I am reflecting about this lately, as I had a small chat today with a blue pill colleague about marriage and the null meaning that the act of marriage has.
I mean, if you are commited to someone, your ACTIONS will speak louder than the contract, thus, making the legal bounding useless.
TFM once said that marriage started as a way to ensure that the 80-20 rule would NOT be a problem, and so men and women would choose a partner and stay with that partner ’till the death, which is not the case in these days.So, if you are commited to someone, why would you STILL sign that contract? Just to prove others that you did it? Just to give the woman the assurance that she needed to f~~~ you up to hell and back in the court, or to spend a s~~~load of money to prove that you are not somehow broke? Or to make yourself remember that you are commited to someone, feeling a piece of metal against your finger flesh to remind you of it, every moment? It makes no sense!
The same can be argued about religion. It makes no sense that without a religion you can’t be a nice person, with good morals, with good values, because the premises are that if you are not good, then religion will not turn you good, no matter what happens.
So, if you are commited to someone, is it really necessary to marry and put a golden ring around a finger?
"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.
So, if you are commited to someone, is it really necessary to marry and put a golden ring around a finger?
Of course it’s not “necessary” or in my opinion desirable, but that all changes when you are talking about the social conditioning of the blue pill mind set.
It appears to me that you’re talking red pill beliefs to a blue pill mangina, and then almost being surprised by there blue pill answers. You really shouldn’t be surprised or amazed by there comments.
Has anyone of you guys still talk with blue pill men?
If you do, how many times do they tell you that you are “bitter”, “angry”, or “just had a bad experience with women and marriage”, “haven’t choosen the right one”, or “never truly loved someone”?Did you expect them to understand or accept your red pill beliefs ?
In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash
Of course it’s not “necessary” or in my opinion desirable, but that all changes when you are talking about the social conditioning of the blue pill mind set.
It appears to me that you’re talking red pill beliefs to a blue pill mangina, and then almost being surprised by there blue pill answers. You really shouldn’t be surprised or amazed by there comments.
Not talking, I am genuinely interested in “metering” what some blue pill man have to say. As Sun Tzu once wrote, “Know thy enemy and know thyself, and in one hundred battles, you will have one hundred victories”. I find it amusing that they still think that everyone who have a different opinion than theirs is “bitter”, or “angry”, because they have no other way to rebute my arguments, without resorting to “it is like that, because a bunch of other people said so”, instead of offering a thought that was “cooked” by themselves.
Did you expect them to understand or accept your red pill beliefs ?
Not at all. I do not expect anything from anyone, since the only person I can expect something is from me. I carry no illusions, brother, since the red pill opened my eyes.
What I think is that the so called “men” today (and by “men” I mean the blue pill men) is not much different from a woman, in what concerns mentality and morals. Their mindset is really alike, almost indistinguishable from one another. That is why I get curious about them, and to know how much of a woman mindset this particular men had acquired, over the years, and sometimes, those men really offer me some precious gems to chew on, like the one I tried to explain in this post.
"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.
those men really offer me some precious gems to chew on
Here’s a precious lil nugget that a tradcon blue piller offered to me in the not so distant past. It’s an oldie, but a goodie.
Chew on this:
” A happy wife, A happy life !! ”
The sad thing is that he lives his life like this.
I asked him lately what he had planned for the weekend, and he told me he wasn’t sure. I replied you mean that you haven’t been told yet what you WILL be doing. He laughed, and AGREED.
In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash
Here’s a precious lil nugget that a tradcon blue piller offered to me in the not so distant past. It’s an oldie, but a goodie.
Chew on this:
” A happy wife, A happy life !! ”
The sad thing is that he lives his life like this.
I asked him lately what he had planned for the weekend, and he told me he wasn’t sure. I replied you mean that you haven’t been told yet what you WILL be doing. He laughed, and AGREED.
Well mate, not every men gets the short end of the stick, and if he lives like that and like it, what is the problem? I don’t see any.
This “happy wife, happy life” does not work for me, and I can see it does not work for you either, so, that is his own way, and this is ours. Again, I see no problem with that.
Let elephants be elephants and let alligators be alligators. I do not seek to change anyone except me, so, I really find it interesting what kind fo things those men have to say, becasue I can later on reflect on what they said, in a less passionate way than them.
I truly don’t think that in the face of those days laws and the way women are not in dire need of men, that a “happy wife” is even possible, let alone “happy life” for a man, for that married man life is NOT easy. Not at all. And so, I do not wish his life for me. Hypergamy is “in vogue” these days, and it is enforced by the government in order to enslave men in the plantation.
But, do I have a problem with the man who CHOSE to be a slave for a woman? Nope. I have a problem with the men who tries to change another man way, by not offering them something to “chew on”, by themselves.
To me, the man who does not seek knowledge, is the man to be blamed. For that man is pernicious. Great evils came from ignorant men.
"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.
The only blue pills I know that are content (I will refrain from using happy) have a lot of money and a woman that isn’t trying to spend all of it at once. She has enough sense to not bleed the golden goose. These are very few. Most blue pills I know avoid their wives and do almost anything to keep them happy. It’s an endless task. The stress of walking on eggshells your whole life is devastating to their health. HE makes it work with effort and I never see much effort coming from the woman. She is always of the mindset that he needs to accept or change to please her. I have only seen one natural / organic relationship where the two people were perfect for each other. So it does happen, but were talking ONE of 50+ years of meeting couples. That’s s~~~ty odds and young woman seem more vile than ever. In my gen they were not encouraged to believe they were the center of universe, like girls are now.
If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.
My blue pill friend was telling me just last night that he would like to find a woman who could drag him along and make him want to be a better person and, without even thinking, I blurted out:
“How the f~~~ is a woman going to make you a better man? She can’t even make herself a better woman!”
“But she can inspire me to be a better man…”
“So what, you’re just sitting around in your pajamas eating cheetos, watching tv and being a s~~~ty man while you wait for some woman to come along and fix you? F~~~ that. Get off your ass and inspire yourself. Be a better man for your own sake… maybe then a woman will be interested in you… but by then you won’t care if she is or not.”
“What the s~~~ are you talking about?”
“Here’s the thing: everything that a woman finds attractive about a man; his confidence, success and freedom… his motorcycle or fast car or rock band… his cool clothes, fat wallet and the fact that other women want him… once a woman gets a hold of him, those are the things she tries to take away from him. She’s got to turn this ideal man into the kind of guy no other woman would want in order to protect her position… then she doesn’t want him anymore herself. A woman can’t lift you up to greatness, she can only tear you down from it.”
“You really believe that?”
“Yes I do. Youve got to treat women like bananas. The first bite can be sometimes good or sometimes a bit mushy, depending on how skilled you are at opening them, but the second and third bites are pretty good. The fourth bite is where the bruises and strings start… and if you keep eating from there, you’ll just end up holding an empty peel. It’s best to toss them after the third bite and go on to another, fresh one.”
Talking with blue pillers about romance is largely a waste of time but who knows, I may eventually say something that sticks.
“Here’s the thing: everything that a woman finds attractive about a man; his confidence, success and freedom… his motorcycle or fast car or rock band… his cool clothes, fat wallet and the fact that other women want him… once a woman gets a hold of him, those are the things she tries to take away from him. She’s got to turn this ideal man into the kind of guy no other woman would want in order to protect her position… then she doesn’t want him anymore herself. A woman can’t lift you up to greatness, she can only tear you down from it.”
Doc, you summed it up really well there.
If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.
“How the f~~~ is a woman going to make you a better man? She can’t even make herself a better woman!”
Hit the nail in the head, Doc.
If you can’t achieve your goals and be a better man for your own sake, then no s~~~ in the world will make you greater.
To me, that is the the thing that definitely separates the good men from the bad-boys: The need to self-actualizate, to become better, to know more, to learn more, to achieve more, whatever your goal is, because that will get you somewhere.
Bad-boys just play around.
I don’t mind if someone chose to be a bad-boy instead of a man, the thing is that I won’t stick around them. I only stay where men are, and if I am not in the same level as them, I will pay the diffecerence, listen, learn and become better.
"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.
Lately I’ve noticed mostly envy from my blue pill friends. I was actually told yesterday that I have “to positive of an attitude lately”. I just laugh my ass off. They sense the freedom I have being single and I don’t have to say a damn thing red or blue pill related. I’m living it, not preaching it.
Most of my married coworkers have a tired, half dead look in their eyes. they’re living in the prison they helped build. Be very careful talking to blue pill guys, particularly married ones. Many have already figured it out but feel it’s to late to change anything. You’d never visit a prison, walk up to an inmate and say. “Guess what, I’m free and you’re not!”
Lately I’ve noticed mostly envy from my blue pill friends. I was actually told yesterday that I have “to positive of an attitude lately”. I just laugh my ass off. They sense the freedom I have being single and I don’t have to say a damn thing red or blue pill related. I’m living it, not preaching it.
Most of my married coworkers have a tired, half dead look in their eyes. they’re living in the prison they helped build. Be very careful talking to blue pill guys, particularly married ones. Many have already figured it out but feel it’s to late to change anything. You’d never visit a prison, walk up to an inmate and say. “Guess what, I’m free and you’re not!”
I do have the very same sense of freedom, brother… It is such a bliss, that I don’t want to go back to the “other way”. I was not preaching too, I was making questions, not to try to get the guy out of the marriage or anything, but to know him and what he thinks about those things. “Know thy enemy”, you know?
Think of me as a f~~~ed up warden (Hahaha), who goes around the bars of the cells, listen to their crimes and s~~~, and then after that, looks at them and say: “hmmm… I have to think about it”, check to see it their locks are REALLY locked, and then move on…
"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.
A red pill man trying to connect with a blue pill man is like trying to connect magnets.
Never lose sight of what brought you here.
If you do, how many times do they tell you that you are “bitter”, “angry”,
Kind of hard for them to tell me that when they know I’m f~~~ing women who are hotter, smarter, and much more fun to have around than the womanatees they’re chained to at home.
or “just had a bad experience with women and marriage”,
Like Timothy Treadwell “just had a bad experience with bears”. You have to know where the limits are. Marriage is well beyond them.
“haven’t choosen the right one”,
Why should I choose one?
or “never truly loved someone”?
There’s loving someone, and then there’s making yourself a chump for them. But you can’t expect a blue pill fool to understand that.
The real question for your blue pill friend is: “Has his wife ever truly loved him? Really? Does he know for sure? Or does she merely love the things she hopes he’ll provide her?” He’ll only ever find out the hard way, and by then it will be too late for him.
A red pill man trying to connect with a blue pill man is like trying to connect magnets.
Not trying to connect, just listening and reasoning… “Know thy enemy”…
Blue Pill men throw other men under the bus for pussy, I am just making sure that I know the breaches in this man’s armor, in order to defend myself when and if the time comes…
I do not trust blue pill men.
"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.
The real question for your blue pill friend is: “Has his wife ever truly loved him? Really? Does he know for sure? Or does she merely love the things she hopes he’ll provide her?” He’ll only ever find out the hard way, and by then it will be too late for him.
I will not even approach that subject with him, my old mate Sidecar… And that is because if I do, I will probably just fuse his gray matter into his skull from the excessive thinking… Hahahaha.
I know that she do love what he does for her, but when I touched the subject of the uselessness of a marriage, well, that is when he called me angry, bitter and s~~~…
"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.
Blue Pill men throw other men under the bus for pussy,
Meaning he wouldn’t hesitate to throw you under a bus for a stink meathole.
Never lose sight of what brought you here.
Meaning he wouldn’t hesitate to throw you under a bus for a stink meathole.
Yep. As I said, I have no illusions about marriage and stuff blue pill man thinks are sacred. I am well aware of that.
BUT, getting close enough to people who can f~~~ me up just to know them, and how to better deal with them when they try to push you under the bus, I would say that it is a smart idea.
That way, HE will be harmless, when and if the time comes, I will be just able to dodge his pushes… Effectively.
I hope you understand now, brother.
"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.
when I touched the subject of the uselessness of a marriage, well, that is when he called me angry, bitter and s~~~…
And that’s when you laugh at him and tell him that’s an awful big case of projection he has there. He should probably do something about it.
those men really offer me some precious gems to chew on
Here’s a precious lil nugget that a tradcon blue piller offered to me in the not so distant past. It’s an oldie, but a goodie.
Chew on this:
” A happy wife, A happy life !! ”
The sad thing is that he lives his life like this.
I asked him lately what he had planned for the weekend, and he told me he wasn’t sure. I replied you mean that you haven’t been told yet what you WILL be doing. He laughed, and AGREED.
I have had almost this exact same conversation before.
What makes it even worse is that the “man” is always proud of the fact he has a new parent to take care of him
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