A Short Term Deficit Illustration of Cost/Benefit Analysis

[BalthazarParticipant 722]

Part of my own way is that I choose to utilize ladies to get my rocks off from time to time still. I don’t really date, I just try to keep a few on rotation for strictly casual sex.

Most of the time it’s enjoyable but in reality even these limited encounters end up being more costly to my self than beneficial. I have a job that requires a lot of physical movement and high energy. I also do a particular type of weight training that requires a lot of focus, intensity and consistency to improve at. And I also have kids that take a lot of effort to keep up with.

When I spend time getting my pleasures from these ladies, I usually end up staying up late and drinking too much. Besides the obvious drain of energy there, when you ejaculate too often in a given period of time, it lowers your overall testosterone levels. And this makes you less physically powerful.

So that’s just in general to prove a point that I realize I’m already losing just by choosing to put energy into getting laid. This particular episode I’m going to mention is an even more acute loss.

I invited one over.

I live in the northeast US. Everything is sloppy with mud from the thaw but it’s cold enough at night to leave really heavy, slippery wet snow.

it’s bad weather, i probably won’t even make it up your driveway

so don’t drive all the way up the driveway. and the roads are fine.

she comes over, drives up the driveway and pulls down into the lowest point around and off the driveway, sinking her pos car in the mud.

i literally told her:
you just totally negated any level of enjoyment that i would get from your visit. i guarantee that i’m going to spend more time trying to get your car out in the morning than i will spend f~~~ing you tonight.

you’re mean to me

and you like it.

in the morning i got up to get her out. i only have have a sedan but i managed to pull her out with my tow strap. she got to the point where she was free and then proceeded to almost drive herself off the side of the driveway and got even more stuck.

she probably would have been alright but the senseless c~~~ had such bald tires the f~~~ing thing pretty much kept turning sideways as soon as the wheels began to slip.

i guess you’re not strong and independent enough to get your f~~~ing car out of my driveway or pay to keep decent tires on it. i’m taking you home, not my problem anymore. i hope you have a friend with a pickup truck.

not only did i have to wake up early to try to get her out, getting covered in slush and mud and getting my boots wet that i needed for work. i also had to go into work late because i had to give her a ride home, which in turn made my pickup time for the kids after work later.

i think this one might have struck out with that episode. she literally mentioned not going up the driveway before the entire encounter and then did it anyway.

have some f~~~ing common sense

you’re being so mean

and you like it

This body holding me is a reminder of my own mortality. Embrace this moment. Remember, we are eternal and all this pain is an illusion.

[TattooDaveParticipant 6952]

That’s great and I’m sure you’re going to break a condom sooner or later and you’ll catch whatever disease these propagate. Not to mention the fact that you will be on the hook for child support for at least eighteen years even though the child is not yours even though it is a hooker

Everyone tries to beat the game but everybody that goes to Vegas knows that The House Always Wins.

Best of luck dipping your dick into that cesspool.

Better yet if you are eating pussy you are sucking another man’s scrotum

I can see their heads have been twisted and fed with worthless foam from the mouth. Bob d

[BalthazarParticipant 722]

TattooDave wrote:

That’s great and I’m sure you’re going to break a condom sooner or later and you’ll catch whatever disease these propagate. Not to mention the fact that you will be on the hook for child support for at least eighteen years even though the child is not yours even though it is a hooker

Everyone tries to beat the game but everybody that goes to Vegas knows that The House Always Wins.

Best of luck dipping your dick into that cesspool.

Better yet if you are eating pussy you are sucking another man’s scrotum

f~~~ off tattoodave, everyone goes their own way and that means that you don’t have to be monk to be mgtow.

you just responded to be antagonizing and didn’t even say anything that was relevant to or making addition to the topic of the thread. go f~~~ yourself.

This body holding me is a reminder of my own mortality. Embrace this moment. Remember, we are eternal and all this pain is an illusion.

[trader1913Participant 1577]

I enjoyed chasing women and the rush of having sex with a woman for the first time. But then i discovered Virtual Reality porn with a sex toy. Ill put it on a scale:

Sex with a plain jane – 5/10
VR porn + sex toy – 8/10
Sex with a babe – 10/10

When you factor in the time, money and effort required to f~~~ a hot woman then the decision becomes easy. I was skeptical before i tried VR porn but it is the real deal. A sex toy isnt as good as the real thing but VR porn adds a little extra to trick the mind which makes the experience better.

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

trader1913 wrote:

When you factor in the time, money and effort required to f~~~ a hot woman then the decision becomes easy. I was skeptical before i tried VR porn but it is the real deal. A sex toy isnt as good as the real thing but VR porn adds a little extra to trick the mind which makes the experience better.

What’s your set up? I figured that the equipment would still be expensive as early days, but I intend to invest eventually.

And as to the topic. Yes Cost benefit analysis always negates the effort of chasing women. I wish it didn’t but to an average guy it just does.

It's Time to get Wise

[TattooDaveParticipant 6952]

Going Your Own Way means that you don’t bother with anyone who is going to waste your time. You are messing with f~~~ery, don’t involve others in that mess.

I would have called in a tow truck and most likely would have called her a tow truck too.

Quit f~~~in about telling men it’s okay. F~~~off bitchh

I can see their heads have been twisted and fed with worthless foam from the mouth. Bob d

[TattooDaveParticipant 6952]

trader1913 wrote:

I enjoyed chasing women and the rush of having sex with a woman for the first time. But then i discovered Virtual Reality porn with a sex toy. Ill put it on a scale:

Sex with a plain jane – 5/10
VR porn + sex toy – 8/10
Sex with a babe – 10/10

When you factor in the time, money and effort required to f~~~ a hot woman then the decision becomes easy. I was skeptical before i tried VR porn but it is the real deal. A sex toy isnt as good as the real thing but VR porn adds a little extra to trick the mind which makes the experience better.

You enjoyed having women for your first time but it was definitely after a mile or more of Cox had been run through it. Not trolling just p~~~ed not happy about men chasing pussy. chase your dreams.

Is this mgtow or the pussy Channel

I can see their heads have been twisted and fed with worthless foam from the mouth. Bob d

[BalthazarParticipant 722]

TattooDave wrote:

Going Your Own Way means that you don’t bother with anyone who is going to waste your time. You are messing with f~~~ery, don’t involve others in that mess.

I would have called in a tow truck and most likely would have called her a tow truck too.

Quit f~~~in about telling men it’s okay. F~~~off bitchh

actually the intent of the post isn’t to tell anyone to do anything. it’s intent was to illustrate the fact that there could be any number of unintended consequences and that even though i choose to still do it, i know it’s largely wasted effort. it was a cautionary tale to other men.

so quite frankly, you missed the entire point of the post, then proceeded to be a trolling, antagonizing asshole rather than add to the discussion. you should probably work on your reading comprehension there. and you’re a bitch because you were the person that initiated with a confrontational attitude.

This body holding me is a reminder of my own mortality. Embrace this moment. Remember, we are eternal and all this pain is an illusion.

[sidecarParticipant 35874]

TattooDave wrote:

Not to mention the fact that you will be on the hook for child support for at least eighteen years

Vasectomy = Freedom.

Just document the f~~~ out of it.

[trader1913Participant 1577]

TattooDave wrote:

You enjoyed having women for your first time but it was definitely after a mile or more of Cox had been run through it. Not trolling just p~~~ed not happy about men chasing pussy. chase your dreams

No i didnt mean my first time, i mean f~~~ing a new woman for the first time. I dont give a s~~~ if a woman has loads of mileage; im there to get my rocks off not find a wife. I have no intention of being captain save a ho. Why are you so p~~~ed off about other men having sex?

Greg Honda wrote:

What’s your set up? I figured that the equipment would still be expensive as early days, but I intend to invest eventually.

And as to the topic. Yes Cost benefit analysis always negates the effort of chasing women. I wish it didn’t but to an average guy it just does.

I got an oculus rift and a few japanese fleshlghts (they are almost always better than american ones). I also play games on my oculus rift so i get a lot more value from it.

If you have a Samsung Galaxy phone (Note 5, S6, S7) then you can get a gear vr for $100, it is basically the same as an oculus for porn purposed but $400 cheaper. You wont need to spend more than $100 for a toy and itll last your for a few years.

[BalthazarParticipant 722]

trader1913 wrote:

I enjoyed chasing women and the rush of having sex with a woman for the first time. But then i discovered Virtual Reality porn with a sex toy. Ill put it on a scale:

Sex with a plain jane – 5/10
VR porn + sex toy – 8/10
Sex with a babe – 10/10

When you factor in the time, money and effort required to f~~~ a hot woman then the decision becomes easy. I was skeptical before i tried VR porn but it is the real deal. A sex toy isnt as good as the real thing but VR porn adds a little extra to trick the mind which makes the experience better.

that sounds like it would be pretty interesting. i go through periods of time with whether porn is exciting or not. sometimes i can’t even really get aroused by it and other times i look at the clock and realize i’ve just lost an hour wacking off haha.

sidecar wrote:

TattooDave wrote:

Not to mention the fact that you will be on the hook for child support for at least eighteen years

Vasectomy = Freedom.

Just document the f~~~ out of it.

i’ve thought about this but i really want to get competitive at the weightlifting that i do, and i can’t really f~~~ with my hormonal levels like that.

This body holding me is a reminder of my own mortality. Embrace this moment. Remember, we are eternal and all this pain is an illusion.

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

I just thought about this topic a bit more and came up with the following:

Don’t think it’s just us RedPill guys that do the Cost Benefit equaision. Woman have been doing this all along. We calculate if the hassle, boredom and financial outlay is worth the Sex and intimacy.

Women work out if the opportunity cost, (missing out on a potentially better deal), or Sexual cost, (she may not be that into you), of a (monogomous), relationship will pay off.

The Pay off for her is in terms of Utility value (how useful can this guy be to me?), and financial rewards, (how much of this guy’s money can I appropriate for myself?).

Notice how the rewards for the Man amount to a couple of hours pleasure, and the rewards for the woman can be a lifetime of physical and financial support?

The real losers in this game are the Blue Pill guys. They neither realise that the juice ain’t worth the squeeze, nor that their Honey has already done a Number on them before anyone gets laid.

It's Time to get Wise

[trader1913Participant 1577]

Balthazar wrote:

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that sounds like it would be pretty interesting. i go through periods of time with whether porn is exciting or not. sometimes i can’t even really get aroused by it and other times i look at the clock and realize i’ve just lost an hour wacking off haha.

VR porn is completely different. Every man that tries it for the first time says they are blown away by it. When the scene is right it is very immersive.

Porn used to be something id watch to get whacking off out of the way. But VR porn is something that i look forward to. Like playing a game, or watching a movie. It is a fantastic experience when done right.

[AkhilleusParticipant 2486]

Trader which are your favorite sites 360 180 ?? Preferences ? I herd badoink is good I think i spelled that wrong

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[sidecarParticipant 35874]

Balthazar wrote:

i’ve thought about this but i really want to get competitive at the weightlifting that i do, and i can’t really f~~~ with my hormonal levels like that.

It didn’t f~~~ with mine. A vasectomy is just cutting a pipe. It doesn’t do anything to your testicles.

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