A response to sanctuary states and cities

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

If those states and cities instruct their employees to not cooperate with ICE and Federal government enforcement of law, I think the Federal government should announce to those places (and the world) they will not cooperate with local law enforcement on any terrorist attack that occurs in those areas.

So that way, if San Francisco is struck by a massive terrorist attack, the FBI etc do not respond or help the state or city.

We should also state that if another country or a terrorist group attacks those areas, that the Federal government will not respond. So if North Korea fires a cruise missile at the Golden Gate bridge and kills a thousand people on the bridge and sends it into the Bay, the Fed gov can say “whatever”.

And most importantly Federal Border agencies won’t stop terrorists who committed such an attack from leaving the country.

If the roof is on fire, let the bitch burn.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

So, you favor Trump supporters, and Anti-immigration side dying in terrorist attacks, to teach these cities a “lesson”? How many Trump supporters do you want killed? Trump discussed ICE totally leaving California, to make a point.

Might as well let California Secede from the union, and Red States can do without the taxes California sends in.

This escalation game can continue. It is one side does something, the other side threatens, and it goes from there. Please post some articles showing you have a basic understanding of why sanctuary cites and states exists, and why they do it. It isn’t just, because they are “evil vile scumbags who just want to destroy America, because they hate America”.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctuary_city

There are reasons. Please go through each and every one and show why the sanctuary city approach is wrong, besides it feels good to do thug bullying approach to get compliance.

What I will tell you here, from politicking, and it is good you aren’t running for politics, is that individual politicians, if you got into power, would end up pointing to how you ended up costing innocent civilian lives and your policies don’t keep people safe and are driven by spite and malice. Well, unless you are bluffing. They might just call you on your bluff, and then you do respond, to show you are full of empty threats.

It is easy to just do simple drinking beer answers to political problems, but such doesn’t answer things. I hope your posting this idea, and the cheering on you get from posting it by others, will make you feel better, because that is the only good that came out of you posting it here.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

So, you favor Trump supporters, and Anti-immigration side dying in terrorist attacks, to teach these cities a “lesson”? How many Trump supporters do you want killed? Trump discussed ICE totally leaving California, to make a point.

Might as well let California Secede from the union, and Red States can do without the taxes California sends in.
This escalation game can continue. It is one side does something, the other side threatens, and it goes from there. Please post some articles showing you have a basic understanding of why sanctuary cites and states exists, and why they do it. It isn’t just, because they are “evil vile scumbags who just want to destroy America, because they hate America”.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctuary_city

There are reasons. Please go through each and every one and show why the sanctuary city approach is wrong, besides it feels good to do thug bullying approach to get compliance.

What I will tell you here, from politicking, and it is good you aren’t running for politics, is that individual politicians, if you got into power, would end up pointing to how you ended up costing innocent civilian lives and your policies don’t keep people safe and are driven by spite and malice. Well, unless you are bluffing. They might just call you on your bluff, and then you do respond, to show you are full of empty threats.

It is easy to just do simple drinking beer answers to political problems, but such doesn’t answer things. I hope your posting this idea, and the cheering on you get from posting it by others, will make you feel better, because that is the only good that came out of you posting it here.

“How many Trump supporters do you want killed?” – I don’t know. Ask those Leftist idols, Che Guevara or Mao Tse Tung how many eggs are needed to make an omlette.

“it is good you aren’t running for politics” – because politics is nothing but a s~~~-show, and I don’t want to be covered in s~~~ from head to toe after playing “King of the Mountain” with a bunch of scumbag lawyers, lobbyists and politicians climbing on a mountain of s~~~.

California can keep their goddamned tax dollars they send, and keep their anti-freedom initiatives, too. I’m not a whore who needs their money. Are you?

Do you like Feinc~~~?

Also, California can take their Hollyweird sewage entertainment industry and its thought-control Silicon Valley companies like Google and Facebook and shove it. Hollywood is filth and garbage. I want their tax dollars about as much as I would want dollar bills in my wallet that a menstruating prostitute bled onto.

Since you are apparently pro-population growth, tell me at which point the US population should stop growing? What is your goal?
300 million. Ooops, already got there.
400 million?
500 million?
600 million?
1.2 billion?

Pick a number. I bet you can’t, because being pro-immigration in a country that is past its carrying capacity is mindless. Crowded urban liberal s~~~holes like Los Angeles and Chicago are nothing more than Mouse Utopia experiments on humans. But by all means, bring more people in.

I’d just as soon kick California out of the country, build a wall around IT, and let them fester. I love how so many white liberals are fleeing California after their policies turned it into a s~~~hole, and now they are flocking like locusts into other places like Colorado and Texas, so they can ruin those places, too. California is also a feminist s~~~hole. That alone would be reason enough alone to hate it.

I used to hate religious conservatives, because moralizing c~~~s who want to impose their will on others. Now I hate busy-body, nanny state liberals even more, because they do the same thing, only they are even worse. If I had the power of Q, like in Star Trek, I’d wait for either’s first attempt to control me, and then snap my fingers and simply disintegrate them.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[iMickey503Participant 12469]

I’m just going to throw this out there really quick.

Do any of you get the feeling there is a strawman attack here?

This sounds so similar to what VAWA and DV laws are based on.

I’m NOT a Political commentator. But Ranger One is not implying (IMO) that anyone should be under threat. Or be bombed.

But on the other hand, California has no problem enforcing VAWA or any other EPA law that seems to be beneficial for them.

So I wonder, when it comes to safety of the citizen. And their tax paying base, is it really in California interest to deport those that purchase items that help pay the sales taxes there that help fund the state?

Again, is it wrong? Of course it is. But then again, who is going to suffer here? And what does the FED plan to do long term?

Again, the FED’s have been ignoring what goes on in states for years like CPS running a muck and has no teeth. If it was really a problem, the FEDS would come in and fix it. But they won’t.

If they won’t help MEN like us? What makes you think they will do anything about MEN and WOMEN who don’t want to follow the law about immigration?

Again, if the only organization that ever seems to do anything is the IRS. And if the states don’t follow FEDERAL LAW ANYWAYS. (US Bank for instance when they took my VA money away from me)

What makes you think that the FED’s are going to do anything about a state that does not care about itself?

Again, there is NO TEETH at the federal level. Organizations and states will never be punished for not following federal law. Hell VAWA and Family courts do it everyday, and nothing is done about it.

So ask yourself. If the law is not followed. And it is broken everyday. And the only people that seem to do anything about it is the IRS. Then what does that tell you?

If the IRS makes money, they don’t care. These people make the state money, and the feds, so they don’t really care.

And what IF the Feds came in and started arresting people? Then what? It would just cost them more money.

And who would benefit really? That white guy? That Black dude? GUESS WHAT!

NO ONE GIVES A F~~~ ABOUT THESE GUYS!

As long as it does not affect women in majority, they don’t care.

And the worst part? IF California did start exporting people? We are talking about entire cities going unpopulated. Entire colleges with no one to go to them.

And the WHOLE social justice narrative, and liberalism going away.

You do that, and there’s a problem.

You think those homeless people are going to just run up and take those jobs and housing? NOPE.

You think it’s going to help americans? NOPE.

All it’s going to do is put LAW ENFORCEMENT OUT OF BUSINESS. Again, STATES PROFIT from everyone having a car, having a license, having to pay for gas. TAXES TAXES TAXES.

That’s all it is.

And since many of these guys never FILE a TAX RETURN. That money goes into the state and federal money stash.

Again, this is more about keeping that BIG government going. What happens when all the housing for poor people is taken by those that are actually citizen.

What happens when WHITE people and BLACK PEOPLE NO LONGER HAVE AN EXCUSE to blame other people for their problems?

You see, the ugly truth is that if they DID remove all those that are not legally able to work here, not only would that shine a dirty light to who is to lazy to work. It would pull the whole SJW, Feminist BS out the window.

The BIG BIG picture is that all these c~~~s that work for the state would no longer have a job.

Without crime, or being able to PUNISH these people who can’t do anything about it, they would run out of money overnight.

Who cares if it helps bring most of the AMERICANS out of poverty. That’s not the point.
As long as there are warm bodies there, they can take advantage of them.

That’s the real deal. That’s why they won’t push these people away. And if they did, the system of MEN who pay for the entire system would COLLAPSE overnight.

Also, all those schools that are OVERRUN with kids that do not speak a LICK of english would VANISH overnight.

Think about that for a second. The JAILS and the system in place would have to cut back. And without the GUMBERMENT Money for these places, and WOMEN thrown in to run these places, what do you think would happen.. A REAL OH S~~~ MOMENT.

And the housing market there? That would dry up too.

So again. Is there really any teeth there? Nope.

But who cares. No one does. As long as it does not affect women directly, no one cares.

And of course, this hurts only the working man.

That’s someone that no one cares about.

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

[RemovedParticipant 4676]

What happens to the strong wealthy man that uses all of his strength and money to help people who squander and take no responsibility? Well, he ends up having to join them, having nowhere else to go, once they bled him dry. Just ask Bill Gates as to why he would not help the government with the national deficit when asked multiple times.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

I think seriously if states that tolerate “sanctuaries” take the tact that they do on Federal immigration law, I think that small towns and counties inside of nanny states and gun grabbing states like California should declare “2nd Amendment sanctuaries” and defy California state gun control laws.

Tell the state governments if they are going to tell the Federal government to f~~~ off, that the local governments have the right to tell the state governments to f~~~ off.

Tell the local governments that if state governments send in law enforcement to arrest people for violation of state gun control laws in “2nd amendment” sanctuary towns or counties, that the Federal government will send them armed assistance to resist state authorities, and will forcibly remove people from jail that have been arrested.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[narwhalParticipant]

It’s no where near that straight forward of an issue. Take Texas for example. Definitely not a sanctuary state, yet it has sanctuary cities, in it. The state government doesn’t have the legal ability to do anything about Houston or Austin, and any other cities. At the same time, that does not mean that the citizens of these cities support Sanctuary policies.

And do you honestly think the federal government withholding unrelated services is going to end well, or teach any one a lesson. Take Houston as an example. If FEMA was ordered to withhold aid from hurricane Harvey, do you think that would have been positive in any sort of way?

IMO, sanctuary cities are not the problem, because local police assistance to ICE was never going to resolve the illegal immigration problem. We need have a secure border, we need better/smarter immigration law, we need to have better control over visa overstays, and we need to make it very difficult for illegal immigrants to find employment.

Ok. Then do it.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

narwhal wrote:

It’s no where near that straight forward of an issue. Take Texas for example. Definitely not a sanctuary state, yet it has sanctuary cities, in it. The state government doesn’t have the legal ability to do anything about Houston or Austin, and any other cities. At the same time, that does not mean that the citizens of these cities support Sanctuary policies.

And do you honestly think the federal government withholding unrelated services is going to end well, or teach any one a lesson. Take Houston as an example. If FEMA was ordered to withhold aid from hurricane Harvey, do you think that would have been positive in any sort of way?

IMO, sanctuary cities are not the problem, because local police assistance to ICE was never going to resolve the illegal immigration problem. We need have a secure border, we need better/smarter immigration law, we need to have better control over visa overstays, and we need to make it very difficult for illegal immigrants to find employment.

F~~~ a wall.

My solutions are
1) a constitutional amendment that requires one parent of a person born in the US as a requirement for citizenship.
2) penalizing companies that hire illegals. Pick a large number per head, I dunno $100,000 per violation. Encourage illegals to turn in companies for hiring them by giving snitches a percentage of the fines collected. Send snitches back to Mexico or wherever, rich.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[narwhalParticipant]

Ranger One wrote:

My solutions are

…apparently ever changing since you’ve changed your tune from your original post.

I mostly agree with your thoughts, though I don’t think it’s complete. I don’t think penalizing employers alone is going to remove the problem. I also think paying snitches is a bad idea, and unnecessary.

Ok. Then do it.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

narwhal wrote:

Ranger One wrote:

My solutions are

…apparently ever changing since you’ve changed your tune from your original post.

I mostly agree with your thoughts, though I don’t think it’s complete. I don’t think penalizing employers alone is going to remove the problem. I also think paying snitches is a bad idea, and unnecessary.

I’ve had those last two ideas for years.
I love the idea of paying snitches. That’d be a nice turd-burger for sanctuaries.

I like my newer idea of “2nd amendment” sanctuaries, though, too.

My response to assholes and pussies is to become a dick.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

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