A Real Intro

[Tim941Participant 68]

Joseph wrote:

Brass Tax Time. I don’t like wasting anyone’s time . . .

FrostByte wrote:

Welcome
btw it’s brass tacks. F~~~ing auto-correct always gets you.

I missed “tax” for “tacks” and wished I hadn’t. I was too busy misunderstanding the topic title and the opening line.

Joseph, waste our time? I thought you were here just because you wanted the time with other males who were dealing with our natural biological drive to produce children so our species would survive in the biosphere. May I have a blanket pardon for my ignorance, please? I hope so! I doubt your writing here into this public forum would waste anyone’s time. The male revelation that’s emerging in our times here on this website evidently is not to go to waste. So I suspect there’s gonna be a lot of “atta boy”s going on and even some outreach. Try to waste our time! Nice challenge.

Already I feel like a dumb ass next to you MGTOW Olympians. How stupid am I? If males were truly going their own way, wouldn’t we each have our own internet domain name running our own sole discussion website for the rest of the world to comment on? Is that what Sandman is doing? Isn’t this site really a million fellas sharing their own ways and and comparing? And how many are actually here compared to the total number of males?

I am cis hetero all the way and no offense to any other sexual orientation, I feel when in the throws of sex with a desirable female when she is getting off as much as I am, what compares to that experience in life? (Answer? Many. And it gets kinky fast, I’m sure.) Frankly, I find jacking off to internet porn almost as satisfying. But I’ve been with enough lovely females to know the singular experience of sexual ecstasy. I feel it so powerfully that it’s like a collision of black holes out in the great universe couldn’t match it! The French I guess call lost in massive orgasms “the little death”—everything melts away for an all-too-short moment and worrying about dying or anything else goes away and I’m in heaven? And then she’s checking her cell phone! Back to that titular word you used: “real” reality.

For the record: I guarantee I’ll read this after I commit to post and a) either want to edit the thing, or 2) delete it altogether. Is that possible here? Well, this is my first edit on the MGTOW forums. So, I got the edit button. Does the edit button expire at some point? Where do I find this information on the mechanics and the site statistics. I’m tired.

And if I’m not ostracized in some form, I might want to continue risking other of my reactions to your intro, Joseph. Like:

Joseph wrote:

Every females [sic] pattern boils down to the same thing. Alpha f~~~s beta bucks. Every single one. From ages 8 – 38 fornicate at least once. I’m not just talking about formal coitus. Hand jobs, blow jobs and butt. And believe you me they start at that age. Then right when they are about to fade and haven’t been able to catch a multimillionaire 6-packer they instead lock down that walking talking bank account. Maybe .00000001% of women actually love their husbands and stick by them even through financial troubles. But no way in hell will a woman ever marry a destitute guy. Maybe as a live in boy toy who pleasures her on command or some s~~~ but never a formal legal government contract.

ALL females’ patterns—plural? I know destitute of pussy, myself. I’m with a popular band performing dance music to all types and there’s always available pretty single women, and many who go to bed with various types of guys after my shows. The women go for the two gorgeous studly singers and those gals are aggressive about it—especially when the singers’ wives come to the shows! Not one gal ever comes up to me. And when I go to them, they shut me down before I can even get started! I’m not a singer and there’s no mic at my rig, but my keyboards are crucial to the show and I am almost always praised for making it the music really good. The dancers love us.

Back to you: “Walking talking bank accounts . . .” nice! Talk to me. My 2016 1099-Misc was $9,240. That’s all. And sorry, fellas, without SNAP, I’d starve to death. But I do owe a dime and I own my van and my keyboard rig and my cell phone. I can always just make rent. And I get cold calls for session work and other bands out of the blue. I’m always working. But Florida Department of Employment and Opportunity by state law has my “profession” officially “unsuitable” and therefore I’m not eligible for my $460 lost income from gig cancellations when Hurricane Irma came through. That my monthly cell plus apartment rent. Is this a economic destitution? Yes. I am definitely NOT a “walking talking bank account.”

Really gorgeous sexy women are available where you pretend to not give them $5,000 for the weekend and they pretend to be your girlfriend and f~~~ and suck all weekend long. Poof! That’s half my annual income. I’d have to live on the steets and skip eating for six months for that one brief GFE weekend.

Call girls probably do not have a bro bono obligation as with the attorneys and lawyers. Or in “our” case, bro boner.

I feel your feelings here on pussy, Joseph, are that of bitterness. That number “.00000001%” is a tenth of a billionth of about 4 billion females on earth, some who are lesbians, comes out to approximately 0.4 females globally? That’s not even one whole female! Did I get the math right? If I did, then isn’t your position rather extreme and shows you are seriously p~~~ed off at any organism in the biosphere in Homo sapiens with a vagina?

[Tim941Participant 68]

Well, the edit button vanished. I meant, Joseph, everyone, for my two cents, on “destitute”: I do NOT owe a dime on my van or rig. And my 2016 1099-Misc is public record. Pow! I have the edit button. It must expire when another post gets added. And I guess deletion of posts is not allowed. Hmmm . . .

Allow me to add, please, that a sultry sexy cougar captured me from November 2012 to August 2015 where I was her sex toy for the first few months. The place I was living when we met was a horror, and her offer to move in at her luxury palace with pussy on top was impossible to decline. But homelessness might have been the wiser option given the torture she put me through to service her pussy and for her to temporarily ride my boner until her mental, emotional, and physical abuse began. So, that’s a couple of testimonials as evidence to the truth of your statements of your experience and POV. For what it’s worth, and thanks for the implicit invitation to comment.

[JosephParticipant 274]

@tim941 no problem bro. Everyone goes through their own grieving process especially when they have had everything taken from them and have suffered heavy losses. You don’t have to say sorry to anyone or apologize for anything. You didn’t do anything wrong. My writing style tends to be very direct. I’ve never passed judgment on anyone here in any of my post and tend to avoid drama threads. Drama reminds me too much of silly dumbass females. So when it comes to stuff like that I’m am very much neutral and observe from a distance.

Please don’t put yourself down. No man is better than anyone else. Sure some have made really really really really bad decisions but every man has an opportunity to win at life by doing what he needs to do for himself and his happiness.

My version of GMOW is not any other mans version of going his own way. For some that may mean having an online internet business like this site for others it may be having a youtube business like sandman. Still for others it might be leaving the country and just chilling in a shack in asia making 100 a month banging hookers all day. Thats the great think about this whole way of thinking. Each man gets to determine for himself what is best for him. No one else.

However I do believe there are some universals especially when it comes to the law and the government but still not every man will or should agree and thats ok.

Back when I was 14 15 and 16 years old many years ago I was in the mists of puberty, hormonal and chemical changes. It was as if an unnamed overwhelming force had taken over mind and body. I just wanted to have sex all the time and I did everything to get it. I succeeded. Now that I’m able I don’t feel that way anymore.

Your definitely right .00000001% was an exaggeration. I don’t say it out of bitterness but out of life experience. If you manage to find one that is good. One that doesn’t care about how much money you make I’m all ears for an actual physical way of finding such a woman. Until then I will continue to feel and believe that a very low percentage are very ill suited. I don’t consider that bitterness but if you do thats ok.

Older richer woman who have boy toys know exactly what they are doing. They seek to control and dominate and be the “man” in the relationship.

This site was sold by its original owner in secret. There is new management that doesn't care about quality. The new site is much better https://theindependentman.org

[Tim941Participant 68]

Thank you for your kinds words, Joseph, and for explaining your mode. I’m learning. I want to express gratitude for any all support because I find the free gift of understanding so valuable. I just don’t understand so many aspects of life and people and all of what we do.

When I say “sorry” I mean compassion that I value so much. I mean “I know sorrow too and I join you in yours and if nothing else, at least there’s a kind of healing obtainable by just sharing out the sorrow.”

When I apologize, even if I’ve done nothing I perceive as wrong in my behavior according to what seems to me to be millennia of arbitrary assumptions that have ossified into “that’s the way it is and it’ll never change” mentality, I recall when I’ve made mistakes for which I’ve had to atone and the painful regret I’ve felt, and then seeing others makes mistakes knowing the pain of regret they’ll experience, I feel crappy they’ll have to go through that pain, and then I’ll preface my voluntaries with “I’m sorry and let me apologize up front . . . [blah x3].” I’m hypersensitive to offense because my whole life I’ve been on the receiving end of too many blows and offenses that were effectively impossible to thwart or obtain any fair compensation for. I resist with all my might a vindictive and vengeful response. I adhere to the “turn the cheek” recommendation and the position of constant mercy. I see this as the only way to break the bad for the good.

Joseph wrote:

Please don’t put yourself down. No man is better than anyone else. Sure some have made really really really really bad decisions but every man has an opportunity to win at life by doing what he needs to do for himself and his happiness.

When a male is as I am, beat down and pushed out of the way by sadly too many other males, and to add insult to injury being declared a LOSER by society and worse females, I’ve become habitually self-hating. My only ready WINNING therapy has been free internet porn and actual truth, and how the author of The Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica that changed human civilization forever NEVER GOT LAID! So much for female assumptions about their Golden Vaginas and their sexual power over males!

I’m saddened to hear your experiences with attempts at bonding with a female have resulted in grave loss and personal injury having had “everything taken from [you . . . suffering] heavy losses.” Every time I hear some female smugly tell of their irresistible pussy and their golden T and A and how they’re in total control of that component of male happiness, I get really angry. I feel great hurt and I find it such a cruel circumstance. Masturbating to porn resolves that madness so completely, my heart fills with gratitude at the FACT that just as soon as the massive world wide web emerged into society, HALF of the traffic instantly became porn. Like a great poetic justice against the emotional cruelty inflicted by females and their smug assumption called “pussy control.”

Joseph wrote:

Back when I was 14 15 and 16 years old many years ago I was in the mists of puberty, hormonal and chemical changes. It was as if an unnamed overwhelming force had taken over mind and body. I just wanted to have sex all the time and I did everything to get it. I succeeded. Now that I’m able I don’t feel that way anymore.

I feel you here strongly. One difference is that you were successful. My first experience with a female pussy was at 14. She broke off with me within the week and I was utterly devastated. She was the one who came to me and I jumped in at light speed. She was in control of my happy experience with pussy. I couldn’t get another pussy until 17 and it was the same: she came to me and I lunged for the pussy and the t~~~ and the ass and it wasn’t enough and she freaking chucked me in a week, then started f~~~ing the musician who held the keys to my entering into live performance in music and tours. Clarity of hindsight and there’s no way to know for sure, but she probably let me f~~~ her just to get to him knowing I was in his band. It was either give up on my chance to start my music career or rationalize away my deep emotional pain. And then I didn’t get laid again until four years after that, and in the meantime I had a selection of my favorites from Playboy and Penthouse and jerked it insanely and frequently almost daily! A conventional notion of “loser” that females would laugh at and rub in my face. All the attractive male biological qualities went to my older brothers and I was the runt with no obvious good genetic material. No wonder girls did want me. It’d be extreme to say out of sexual frustration this is why the outlawing of brothels is the height of social cruelty to males. Masturbation works but . . . And forced celibacy competes for top cruelty prize. Truth is that there were probably decent girls who would have f~~~ed my lights out but I was blinded by a delusion of a version of female unlikely to be had in my case.

There’s no end to this stuff. Thank you for sharing with me.

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