A New Life in Edinburgh!

[BeyonderParticipant 3]

Hello everyone!

Greek, 38 year old MGTOW here. I used to be an English Teacher and amateur writer of fiction before the economic crisis came to Greece and everything went to Hell. Greece went from Cradle of Civilization to failed Anarcho-Communist State and I became long term unemployed. Migrating to Scotland in October to start a new life…

I discovered MGTOW on YouTube some years ago while searching for Feminist getting rekt videos. First video I saw was by Sandman. I was relieved to finally see such a liberating philosophy and way of life! Finally! Some men are taking no more bulls~~~ and are leaving the Gynocentric System! Passive Resistance! Effectively damaging the System Financially and Demographically by not participating anymore! (I call it “Starving the Bitch”)!

I continued watching videos but I officially had my Red Pill Moment and chose to become MGTOW when my girlfriend, who was my everything, left me after 5 and a half years of being together. It happened on Sunday, October 11, 2015.

Even though I’m considered a good looking guy, I’ve never had much luck with women. Primarily because I didn’t try enough. It was like, wanting to win the lottery without even buying the damn ticket…

I guess I lacked the necessary social skill. Never learned how to talk to women. I remember missing SO MANY chances when I was younger. All because I didn’t know what to do or how to follow the cues and realize that she’s interested. I was shy and clueless, full of doubt and fear, and they thought that I was simply not interested in them! I drove them away and wasted the best years of my life, almost my entire youth, being single, alone and pretty much anti-social. I had a few friends, but my life basically consisted of gaming and watching movies and anime. No sexual life whatsoever…

All that changed in 2010 when I met her. Eve was her name. She was 14 years younger then me and we met in a Facebook Group for Lonely People. I was basically miserable, talking about how women only go for Alpha Males and she replied. Not only her, but her sister, who was one year older, replied too.

I never considered anything sexual at that time. You see, I’ve always liked OLDER women. I never expected that a younger woman would actually hit on me! Before knowing it, I was chatting on Windows Live Messenger with both her and her sister. We talked for 2 months before finally admitting openly that there’s something deeper going on here. Her sister was full of herself. Eve was somewhat shy. One day they asked me who exactly I’m interested in. The moment of truth had arrived.

After watching pictures and talking to both of them I analyzed the situation in my mind. Eve was way more beautiful. She was younger too. Such a fresh girl. Such a beautiful little fairy. But she had low confidence. Easier to handle and manipulate. More obedient. Her sister on the other hand was arrogant, average looking and always seemed to insult whomever she was talking with, without realizing it. She was so full of herself that she verbally reduced everyone else. She lacked communication skills.

The wise thing was to choose the low confidence sister. That would deal a massive strike on the Ego of the other one and I could probably use her jealousy to my advantage in the future. This decision would also boost the confidence of the younger sister and she would be more submissive to me in a blissful state of gratefulness for saving her from her sister’s shadow…

Indeed I chose the young one. And she didn’t disappoint me. She was still a virgin. Yet there she was, in the movie theatre, completely intoxicated with lust on our very first date, stroking my c~~~ while I was stroking her clitoris with her lesbian friend sitting next to me, pretending to watch the movie (Twilight: Eclipse)…

2 days later her lesbian friend told her that she’s had enough pussy and was now looking for a boyfriend…

The thing that caught my eye on our first date was that she was wearing a snake pendant. Her name was Eve and she was wearing a snake pendant. How much more symbolic could this get?

Our second date ended with a blowjob in the toilet of the cinema.

Third date, anal. Damn, this girl was almost too good to be true.

She was madly in love with me. Her sister unfortunately, hated my guts. She never forgave me for not choosing her. Oh well… At least I brainwashed them into kissing each other and touching their breasts. Too bad I never achieved that sister threesome I desired. Eve told me she’d gladly do it if her sister wanted it too. But, she didn’t.

Anyway, let’s move on. The relationship begun with much lust and passion as you can see. The good thing is that it soon became deeper than that as well. We both fell deeply in love. She used to say I was her Sun and she would never leave me. We’d live together. We made plans. I would never be alone again… Thousands of her messages in my archive remind me of those days filled with love, loyalty and affection. Days of promises and oaths of eternal love. Days now gone forever.

As the years went by, she gradually started to change. Keeping her distance. Avoiding sex. She still was affectionate however. Until one day, after 5 1/2 years she said that she wasn’t ready for such a commitment yet. She wanted to do some things for herself first. I said that she could do those things while being with me. She didn’t need to destroy everything. Besides, we had no real problems. I was happy.

She insisted on breaking up. She said that PERHAPS she’ll return in the future… I never agreed but she left me anyway. And she did it over the phone. She didn’t even give me one last meeting…

I later found out, that she had become a singer for a rock band of 4 men WHILE we were still together! And she never told me!!! She was a Physics University Student. Second best Nationally. She was a Physics nerd, and she secretly became a rock band singer!!!

Now she won’t even answer the phone. She’s blocked me everywhere. I deserved something better. The ironic thing is that, she’s told me so herself in the past. “You’re perfect. You deserve someone better than me. I’m a horrible person”. I couldn’t understand back then WHY she said that, given the fact that we had no problems and I was happy. She seemed happy too.

I’ve lost everything. I’ve lost 7 years of my life, waiting for her to graduate, so we could leave Greece together and live abroad. Just 2 weeks ago my father died. I’ll be leaving the country in October. All alone with little money I managed to save from my father’s pension…

But you know what? After all that, I don’t hate her. Because for 5 1/2 years, I was happy. Truly happy. I’m guessing she will contact me in the future. When she hits the wall. I don’t think I’ll accept her back. Not after what she did.

Unless maybe I’m in dire financial need and she agrees to support me financially FOR LIFE. Then maybe I’ll accept her back. But then again, if I’m living on her money, I’ll essentially be dependent on her in every way, won’t I? What would you do really? Accept her back on strict terms and conditions or just send her off forever? I guess I still can’t fully accept the fact that’s it’s all over.

I hope I succeed in Scotland. My plan now is to just work and earn money. No marriage, no long-term relationships, no children. I’ll just use my spare time to travel, eat in expensive restaurants, live my life while I still have some youth left in me. I’LL TRY MY BEST TO MAKE UP FOR THE LOST TIME. I DO look about 10 years younger after all. It’s a good thing I never smoked or drink alcohol.

I still want to have sex. I’ll go the Pump and Dump route. I’ve had so little sex in my life after all. I feel wronged and deprived. I feel I deserved more and better. Given my appearance and character I feel f~~~ing entitled. I never really tried. It’s time to finally try. While I still can. I’ll go for a DDLG BDSM relationship. I’ll go for the young ones (legal of course). I’ll never fall in love again. I’m only interested in f~~~ing and having way too much fun now.

Oh, and, of course I’ll never stop watching anime and play games. It helps with approaching the young ones…

By the way, any MGTOW Brothers in Edinburgh?

MGTOW For Life!

Thus said The Beyonder.

[HitmanParticipant]

welcome.
just focus on yourself.
learn and earn.
pussy will be there all the time.
don’t obsess on it,
obsess on YOU !

[HitmanParticipant]

best of luck on your move,
and God bless.

[black_knightParticipant 2602]

Beyonder wrote:

she’s told me so herself in the past. “You’re perfect. You deserve someone better than me. I’m a horrible person”.

Whenever they say this, always agree.

[black_knightParticipant 2602]

Hitman wrote:

obsess on YOU !

I endorse this. I always say “if you want a love affair, have a love affair with yourself”. Once you begin a love affair like this, it never stops. I always find myself curious, I find myself funny, I like me, I value me, I love me. Do the same Beyonder, you won’t regret it. Try and see humour, mischief, and curiosity in just about everything. Next time a female says “are you gonna buy me a drink?” look her straight in the eye with a glint in yours and say “no, you buy me one – mine’s a rum and coke” but DON’T break the eye contact. You’ll be sure to get a drink!

I say go for the expensive restaurants. Save a few hundred and go to a tailor. Make tailoring a lifelong project, and put a couple of pieces in your wardropbe each year. Wear them to the restaurants. Bitches will notice.

Amuse yourself.

[Anonymous 43]

welcome brother.

take care not to use real names or pictures here amigo.

love yer story about being strung along. all women are like that.

[AttonParticipant]

You are quite lucky thing didn’t get messy.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[743 roadmasterParticipant]

Clean break from the past, new start in new country.
Welcome to Mgtow.

mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

[MaddladParticipant 765]

Feel your pain mate, but please believe us when we say, she didnt really love you, she just loved what you could do for her or provide for her at the time it suited her. The fact that she had a whole other life you didnt know about as a singer tells us that. As harsh as it sounds, id say as soon as she pulled away and stopped wanting sex from you she was getting it somewhere else.

Focus on yourself and find things you enjoy, and yes enjoy the young ones (legal age) for casual fun only.

[Anonymous 13]

Apart from ALL the odds being against you anyway, as in ALL relationships have a ‘done by’ date.

The other problem was,

When you date them between the ages of around 18 to 22 they’re still really just babies.

They don’t know what they want and they’re changing rapidly, she’s a different girl at 22 than she was at 18/19.

It’s really just amazing you lasted as long as you did.

AND

You can NEVER go back.

EVER.

One chance, per woman, per lifetime.

Good luck in Edinburgh and WELCOME.

[Anonymous 3]

Interesting intro. Wish you the best on your move & new found freedom.
I am speaking from my own experience. PUA’s are , in my estimation are the worse kind of men. As they grow older they don’t know what to do with themselves & to obsesss over women leads nowhere.
I’m sure you were quite happy. No doubt. Good sex will put a smile & a skip in any man’s step.However, I would guess that if she’s blowing you in a the toilet. There were other toilets she visited.
A physicist & in a rock band & you didn’t know about either one. WOW! That pussy had you dumbed down & blind.
I am a little confused about the sister & lesbian friend. Are they both the same person.
It was a good read & there are some nice story elements in it. You came out of it intact. That’s a miracle.
I would say stay away from porn its poison for a good mind & will destroy your creativity.
Try not to obsess. Lose her number.Start living your own life & do things that are in your own best interests. Good luck. And glad you were able to survive the BP insane ride you were on. MGTOW

[MonkParticipant 16988]

Beyonder wrote:

But she had low confidence.

Wrong – every cupcake thinks that she’s the centre of the universe.

‘Low self esteem’ is a trick to attract White Knights and over-clever PUA’s.

Easier to handle and manipulate.

But it was you who was manipulated, wasn’t it?

Our second date ended with a blowjob in the toilet of the cinema. Third date, anal. Damn, this girl was almost too good to be true. [….] I later found out, that she had become a singer for a rock band of 4 men WHILE we were still together!

A slut, a carousel rider. You were thoroughly cucked. But hold on, you said she was ‘easy to handle’ and ‘obedient’?

Now she won’t even answer the phone. She’s blocked me everywhere.

Whoa – you’re still trying?

I deserved something better.

You deliberately got a whore. You got burned.

What did you deserve again?

I’m guessing she will contact me in the future. When she hits the wall. I don’t think I’ll accept her back. Not after what she did.

You ‘don’t think’?

With her lifestyle, she will hit the wall very quickly, then she will almost certainly contact you again.

Unless maybe I’m in dire financial need and she agrees to support me financially FOR LIFE. Then maybe I’ll accept her back.

So far, your learning curve appears to be a straight line.

I still want to have sex. I’ll go the Pump and Dump route.

That’s still dangerous. With your track record, a period of abstinence might be a good idea.

I feel I deserved more and better. Given my appearance and character I feel f~~~ing entitled.

Uh …

I’ll go for a DDLG BDSM relationship. I’ll go for the young ones (legal of course).

Uh …

[BeyonderParticipant 3]

Anonymous wrote:

A physicist & in a rock band & you didn’t know about either one. WOW! That pussy had you dumbed down & blind.

I am a little confused about the sister & lesbian friend. Are they both the same person.

@johnny Zero, I knew the physicist part. It was the singer part that she kept secret.

And no, Eve’s sister and Eve’s lesbian friend are not the same person. Her lesbian friend simply accompanied us to the movie theatre because she wanted to see the movie and because it was my very first meeting with Eve and she brought her as a precaution in case I was some psycho rapist etc. 😛

As for her sister, she used to just kiss Eve on the lips from time to time “for fun”. (Apparently, studies have shown that 80% of siblings do such crazy incestuous s~~~ when young after all) I just convinced Eve to take it a little further. And her sister responded accordingly.

@monk, I see your point. It’s just that, I HAVE been abstinent for YEARS before I met her. I’ve spent most of my life so far being abstinent! I’ll probably become a Monk at some point in the future, but I’m not ready to do it yet. Given my track record of little sexual experience, I’d like to have some more fun before I quit women entirely. Other men at my age are way more experienced and I feel inadequate when compared to them. So yes, you’re right, I see your point. I just don’t want to quit YET. And no, I’m not planning on becoming a PUA. Too much time, money and effort needed for that.

@Everyone: Thank you very much for your kind wishes and advice! You have my gratitude!

Thus said The Beyonder.

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