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I want to say how I ended up here. It was not a single event as such, but the underlying current pushing me in one direction while I was swiming around trying to get out of the water. I have subscribed to the idea of MGTOW for a long time as I see it myself except certain aspects i didnt know about until a few days ago when i stumbled upon it. I want to contribute some of it to the tenants I have had where I live (I worked right after school as I was in an apprentice so I got enough money to buy an appartment and rent out part of it as I am attending university). I have had women here and they have all felt entitled to more than they are paying for, luckily I have had no intrest in them so I did not allow them to use me. I did however grant them the same things I invited my male tenants to have and they used this to justify towards themselves that they could possibly get more. This was my first clue to how this world worked.
When i then learned about MGTOW with this mindset allready shallow in my mind I felt myself standing outside myself and reviewing my life up to that point and I got a metaphorical punch in the brain. I have never been that outgoing and have never been that succesfull with women, so when I first wanted to evolve myself I did the worst thing I now understand i could do: I listened to the advice of a woman. This oviously did not work to my advantage but I let gynocentrism tell me that the reason I was not succeeding was my own failiure to not be good enough. And finding this way of thinking have made me feel good for the first time for a very long time. It is like this island that suddenly appared in my way as I was drifting through the ocean, and I would like to thank whoever dug enough sand to make it.
I’d like to end by saying that I am not an author nor is english my first language so the text might not be perfect. I would also like anyone to state if I there is anything i have written that makes you to belive i have misunderstood anything.
WELCOME to MGTOW McLoco!
Thank you very much
Welcome McLoco – you are among friends! So…you are a physics student eh??? That was one of my favorite subjects in college! But… we aren’t here to talk physics. Sorry – I digress sometimes.
We are here to help you grow and prosper. The RED PILL will give you knowledge!
"I care not what others think of what I do, but I care very much about what I think of what I do! That is character!"
~ Theodore RooseveltThank you very much, Yes i am and I didnt know what else to put while I figured out something better. It is good to know that you feel that way, I am sure I will get my fair share of tests in the future. I really glad it did not take more time than this to recieve a red pill.
Anonymous42@McLoco your easy to understand; thank you for the island metaphor. I look at MGTOW as a ship in the ocean, an island is static without direction; so go to the other side of the island and board the USS, HMS, RA, RC, MGTOW, it’s a motley crew, but the friendliest crew on the high seas of the internet…….
Yes i suppose it is better to be on a ship, but before i came here it felt like something someone had build and left there for me to find, and now I am free to stand up and see where I am, i’ll gladly board the ship but adding the prefix HNoMS since i am sure there are more norwegians out there.
Welcome, MrLoco, or should I say Frank Grimes Jr.??? I wish I’d known then (in my youth as you) what I know now – you have a great chance at having much smoother sailing through life than those of us who are older and already have shipwrecked one or more times on the waves of the female species. Make sure you check the archives on this site to more fully explore MGTOW and people’s experiences – the audio shows by Tom Leykis are also great entertainment. I would also like to recommend that, if you have not already, read “The Manipulated Man” by a woman named Esther Vilar – the 1st link is the Amazon paperback link with the summary and book reviews by readers and the 2nd link is a free PDF download of the same book. It has a lot of great stuff in it:
http://www.amazon.com/The-Manipulated-Man-Esther-Vilar/dp/1905177178
https://dontmarry.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/the_manipulated_man.pdf
The final thing I’d recommend is to search for MGTOW videos on YouTube, by various MGTOW-ers like Sandman, Spetsnaz, bar bar (Barbarossa), Stardusk and others. The ‘manosphere’ is large but the core concepts are not that daunting and you will be enlightened and entertained along the way.
Once you’ve absorbed enough, you will one day suddenly start dissecting what women say to you and what they really mean, and you’ll discover you were living in a different world with respect to what you had perceived in the past.
Have fun and welcome 🙂
p.s. I just figured out that at this stage in my life at age 58 I am a Level 3 MGTOW, described below (I pulled it off the http://theobserverwatches.blogspot.com):
Level 3: Economic disengagement
Short brief: the MGTOW refuses to produce more than is strictly necessary for his individual survival. He will do as much work off the books as possible to avoid taxation, and will endeavour to remain in the lowest tax bracket possible without jeopardising his way of life and acceptable standard of living. (In my case I simply accumulated enough cash assets to retire years ago, I didn’t work off the books, but with all my investments in cash instruments I make sure I stay in the lowest tax bracket possible, as my assets can be safely depleted as necessary).
b) Taxation revenue falls drastically as beta men stop producing, resulting in greater debt and borrowing required to maintain government spending. (I could have worked another 20 years or so but chose not to).
MR. LOCO! Very happy to welcome you.
The worst thing I now understand i could do: I listened to the advice of a woman
Yep.
I am not an author nor is english my first language so the text might not be perfect. I would also like anyone to state if I there is anything i have written that makes you to belive i have misunderstood anything.
I find it fascinating that MGTOW show up here and many even APOLOGIZE in their introductions for “not being perfect“. Because they don’t speak 2 languages perfectly. Think about that for a minute. Then think about how women not only don’t apologize when they are not perfect… the never apologize even when they are dead f~~~ing wrong.
In what UNIVERSE would a man like this ever care to be “good enough” for women???
Why do Men. Apologize. For. Not. Being. Perfect?
… when women apologize for nothing. Not even paternity fraud.
You won’t see a woman on the Maury show (who tried to pin fatherhood on the wrong man) say “sorry”.They don’t even apologize for being bad wives and mothers!
They expect men to PAY them for this.Mind-blowing, isn’t it.
This is a huge compliment to your being conscious of other people. Examine your values, code and honor… and compare them to the sex that wants you to listen to their advice. They behave as if you should want to be “good enough” for them. When a man realizes that all the inadequacies he previously blamed himself (or accepted responsibility) for…. were not really his problem or fault to begin with.
This is an amazing realization. Enjoy it.
You never have to apologize for not speaking English perfectly again.Welcome to MGTOW in a big way.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.This is what I am learned. I am a long time lurker of sandman’s videos on youtube.
Since 2009 I have been figuring out everything I have been told was a lie. Make what you need to survive and thats it. Work for what? Things that mean nothing. Things that cost money. What is money? Its paper that is backed by nothing in america. Reinvest your money into yourself. or hobbies. Those things last.
What is going to happen when america falls? Because it will one day.
Anonymous42I’ve thrown my hands in the air and surrendered! I’m selling everything attached to a tax bill. In the U.S. we have capital gains tax. At this point I don’t care if they take the lions share of my toil and labor.. I no longer volunteer in society!
like GoneGault, I also have liquid assets. In the North East U.S., many hard working men are allowing their property to deteriorate, they have been taxed into ruins. The liberal cities (metropolis) makes the rules, and hoards the money to farther ruin the cities with their gynocentric laws and mandates. Farmers allover Vermont, New Hampshire, (New England) are disappearing and their fields becoming weeds and woods. Many men I have spoken to have the same attitude as GoneGault and Myself.
One dairy farmer sold all his cattle, and fired everybody that worked for him, his explanation was: Saving money by not operating the farm, he worked 80 hours a week and never complained. Now he saves money and doesn’t have to be a slave……..
I am a supporter of MGTOW, It makes commonsense that a slave would break the chains that bind him to his slavery……………….
@gonegalt Yes but senior in fact. I share one of his statements: “I cant stand it any longer, this whole planet is insane.” Yes I am insanely happy I found MGTOW as soon as I did, I am 26 now and not tied down into anything. I have allready seen some videos but not read the book, I will look into everything you mentioned. Yes at the present moment I do not pay any tax at all and I am glad I dont, here we have upwards towards 50% income tax.
@keymaster I had accually never though about what you said before, about how I myself act like this, it has just become the reality. Now that I am aware of it I will make sure to be concious about it.
Welcome aboard, we may be loud, boisterous and may even insult you in fun but no one will toss you overboard like some of our wives did to us.
I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.
Harp for the win! by the way, change your location bro. don’t put where you actually live on here. High five and happy Monday bro!
Welcome MrLoco
Is the guy in your pic the one from the Simpsons who get’s p~~~ed off with Homer and accidentally electrocutes himself to death?
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