A Name To What i've Always known!

[Gone SurfingParticipant 216]

Hello MGTOW Brothers.

I have a story just like you all of things not working out with women and i just couldn’t work out why, but i am optimistic and resourceful and that has lead me here.

After a break up with my last long term girlfriend (i even got engaged so a lucky escape for team me). I have spent my time doing what the hell i like and loving it. I surf a lot, do crossfit, go on fishing trips, drink beer when the mood takes me and have started my own business as i have the time and the resources to do so.

I hadn’t even heard of MGTOW until a few weeks ago but this how i got here.

I had started as most men do after a certain time has passed from breaking up to think about dating again. This time i wanted to be prepared so i started looking on the internet about how women think but found the usual bs. I was no where nearer to understanding them as i thought understanding them would help me have a satisfying relationship.

On my way i came across the book called the manipulated man by Ester Vllar and i couldn’t take in what she was saying, it could not be real. Then i read The myth of male power by dr Warren Farrell and i learned about male disposability and how the feminist movement had gotten women preferential treatment in the courts and everything i thought about equality had been shattered. (all i wanted was for men and women to be equal)

Then on a forum i was reading i saw this MGTOW. I googled it and found this site.

Now after going through your videos and articles i have been learning about hypergamy and the way that women work and i have been through all my past relationships with x ray specks on, it’s like i can see for the first time. It all makes sense now.

When i was younger i used to drink and party a lot and i did alright with the ladies because i had a bit of a crazy image. Then as i got older i calmed down and i met a woman who had a young son. ( i became the provider) I admit she was good looking and the sex was good but she was also a complete hypocrite and very controlling.

We were together for 8 years is it a coincidence that she ended it when i had a period of unemployment? but in reality she did me a favor as i am now free.

I like the idea of Men Going Their Own Way and i will be going mine. This for me means putting myself first. If i meet a women then at least i know that she is looking to only benefit her and forearmed is forewarned as they say.

Hey maybe it will even work in my favor now. I’m 39 in good shape with a growing business so i know what i have to offer and i know what women are willing to do to get their hands on it. I just will be doing it on my own terms, no marriage, no living together and if they don’t like me spending time doing what i like then there is the door.

I have found my way. Thanks MGTOW for the help, guidance and inspiration.

[Gone SurfingParticipant 216]

I’ve always done things that make me happy just sometimes women get in the way. Now i know it’s called MGTOW.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

@Gone Surfing.

“I seem to have been only like a boy playing on the seashore, and diverting myself in now and then finding a smoother pebble, or a prettier shell than ordinary, whilst the great ocean of truth lay all undiscovered before me.”

– Sir Isaac Newton

Before we opened, that quote was our intro on the “coming soon” page.
A little more than 3 months later, here you are.

So thrilled to receive your message, because it is exactly why we’re here: To provide a one-stop shop for guys out there looking for answers, and quite literally, to save lives. Been thinking all along: “If just one pair of eyes are opened, I will be worth it”. The various MGTOW who produced the videos, media, graphics, articles and discussions …. will be happy to know this too. It belongs right at the top.

Your realizations are uncanny, and I think it might shock you the number of MGTOW who arrived in almost exactly the same way. When vastly different men from vastly different lives in far away locations have exactly the same stories to share, you know it’s not just you. It’s not just Esther Vilar who “made it all up”. It’s not just one guy who got cuckholded. And it sure as s~~~ is not “NAWALT”.

Enormous thanks right back to you.
In fact, because of you, I’m going to the beach and taking the afternoon off.

Big Welcome to you. More later…
– MGTOW.COM

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Gone SurfingParticipant 216]

Catch a wave for me.

[DmitryiParticipant 9]

S~~~ dude, this was awesome. @Gone Surfing If I wrote my own it would sound like I ripped yours off. I read The Predatory Female and think it should be taught in freakin’ school. I like the way it’s broken down into short paragraphs one red pill after another and the parallels were like Keymaster said. Uncanny. In my profile I mentioned I feel like I can see with x-ray specs and that’s why Neo is my avatar. Now when I hear a phrase like “men should” or “I want”, I just start shaking my head.

[Total LeeParticipant 1573]

Hey Surfing. You’re among those who get it.

This for me means putting myself first.

I couldn’t take it anymore when I had to go to silly cousins birthday parties, this holiday, that holiday, one obligation after another. It seemed like every weekend was an occasion or some reason to buy a present for some friend-of-a-friend’s sisters boyfriend’s Bar-B-Q aunt’s 3rd cousin twice removed , Valentine’s Day, Easter, Thanksgiving ,Christmas, Halloween, New Year, Labor Day, Memorial Day, Victoria Day ,Canada Day, Independence Day, Groundhog Day, and eventually I looked forward to going to work on Monday just to get away from it all. None of it was ever what I wanted I wanted to do, and if I ever said so “nah you know what, just go without me today. I’m just going to hang out and get some sun, and read, or watch the game, or wash the car”.. there would be pouting and silent treatments, and now I understand why married men look like beaten dogs after 15-20 years.

Every weekend was an excuse to EAT. When I was in the car on Monday morning on my way to work it was a relief. “You would rather wash the car than go to Sally’s baby party”? Yes. Yes I would. Can’t women get that? If you’re not doing what she wants, you’re a f~~~ing asshole. Now being the asshole suits me fine. I swear the whole “system” is designed to keep you poor and wasting money on cards, or a bottle of wine, or balloons, or teddy bears, or an afternoon in the kitchen making a stupid noodle salad.

When I learned of MGTOW, I learned the word “no”. I only wish I started saying it 20 years ago.

[FreemanParticipant 32]

Gone Surfing, welcome man!

[Rock St.EddieParticipant 129]

I like Gone Surfing’s style. His intro is fantastic.

[Gone SurfingParticipant 216]

Thanks for all the kind words fellas.

Since my last post i have reread the manipulated man by Esther Vilar (must read if you want to understand women)and gone through the videos and articles again.

This is what my brain (if you can call it that) has come up with so far.

1- do what you want to do as you only live once and being happy is your number one goal.
2- women will do anything to benefit them. Use this to your advantage.
3- on a first date talk about how men and women should be equal. No woman will ever disagree with you. Now use this to avoid paying for everything in the future. (when they say a man should pay for dinner or anything else) you politely remind them that they believe in equality and that they should pay their own way. This will have an added bonus of weeding out the gold diggers. (this can also be used in any way you believe that they are taking the p~~~ out of you) I love equality.
4- there is no NAWALT just varying degrees of their selfishness. (so you might as well be selfish and get what you want)
5- don’t give in to being told to man up and other shaming techniques just politely remind them of equality and it is what they wanted.
6- don’t argue with feminists. whats the point don’t waste your energy.
7- there is a big wide world out there so start your own men going your own way bucket list and start ticking them off (see point 1)
8- if you ever get into a relationship and are thinking of moving in together then please get help and advice from a financial professional. Move all your pre relationship assets into a trust (she will not be able get them in a divorce or de facto split) and get a watertight prenup signed and don’t give in to her but don’t you trust me bulls~~~, short answer is no i don’t trust you.
9- if your in a relationship then learn the would No and use it when you are asked to do something you don’t want to. If she don’t like then tough s~~~.
10- look at women and just observe as you will see the tell tale signs of their manipulation otherwise called feminine guile.(they cant hide it if you know what your looking for)

These are just the ramblings of me and my brain and they represent my own way. If they help you on your man way then I’m glad to have helped.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

@GoneSurfing What did you think of the book? I couldn’t put it down.

3- on a first date talk about how men and women should be equal. No woman will ever disagree with you. Now use this to avoid paying for everything in the future. (when they say a man should pay for dinner or anything else) you politely remind them that they believe in equality and that they should pay their own way. This will have an added bonus of weeding out the gold diggers. (this can also be used in any way you believe that they are taking the p~~~ out of you) I love equality.

This is sensible and really great fun if you have no intention of taking (or having) her in your life seriously…. or if you do, you establish a framework where it will be fair exchange or she can get the hell out.

4- there is no NAWALT just varying degrees of their selfishness. (so you might as well be selfish and get what you want)

Their varying degrees of extreme selfishness became apparent when I deliberately “forgot” Valentines Day and then offered to take her for a cheap hamburger and a movie on Feb 15th. The western bitch will actually behave like you treated her badly. Try it. This shows she would rather get a gift out of obligation and resent – simply because it says Feb 14th on the calendar. Reacting negatively to anything you would do for her exposes her selfishness to the core. The percentage of p~~~ed off she is, is the percentage of selfish bitch she is.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[woodtrimsParticipant 1]

Don’t crossfit. That s~~~’ll mess up your body.

[Gone SurfingParticipant 216]

Thanks woodtrims for the advice but i like cro0ssfit, before that i liked thai boxing and before that snowboarding all have which have messed up my body to varying degrees so i’ll paraphrase a feminist slogan “my body my choice” but thanks again for the concern.

@keymaster – My intention is to use number 3 to screen potential women to find a half decent one. A relationship based on equality and not privilege is a good start, though i must concede that probably wont stop the nagging.

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