a lot to reconsider – hello brothers

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  • #96559
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    Cutroot
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    First, a quick thanks to the community for coming before me.  I’m grateful to have found you all.

    My story is pretty typical.  I live in California, work in technology.   My dad’s an engineer too – he’s got his s~~~ together these days, but when I was young he was always at work.  So I was raised by my mom, to think like a woman.  Ultimately my mom slept with our alcoholic neighbour and divorced my dad (even as he tried to recover the relationship).  All the while she spewed crap about how bad of a person my dad is for being “unfeeling” (not playing into her bulls~~~, maintaining a stoic attitude, etc. is apparently a terrible sin).

    So by the time I was in my teens, I had some deeply feminist views about how a dude ought be.  I was the white knight and proud of it.  But simultaneously, I knew it was all wrong deep down, and I resented the hell out of every child support check my mom forced out of my dad.

    Not surprising then that I got oneitis on numerous occasions, and drank myself into oblivion to cover my shattered man-dreams.  On a few occasions I thought I could see the light – maybe the way society had raised me to approach gender differences was unbalanced.  I enthusiastically went to my friends, “Hey guys, what do you think about this – maybe we’ve got it all wrong and need to revisit our attitudes towards women..”.  But those brief flashes of light were drowned in the darkness of my friends’ automatic bluepill response – they beat me down emotionally and convinced me that I was a bad person for even thinking that way.

    What led me back to following my heart, and ultimately to finding MGTOW, is Buddhism.    I’m not here to preach Buddhism, but because it’s so important to me, I’ll have to introduce only the most basics so I can explain why I am the person I am today, and where my present conflicts and struggles lie.

    Essentially I was disillusioned with women, society, etc. , and drugs and booze never made things better.  I turned to meditation and compassion in hopes of giving up my ego-attachment and becoming liberated from the mess of inner conflict.  The hope was that if I look deeply inside myself, I’d  find that everything I need is already present.

    Fast-forward many years, I’ve been sober 3+, and got my health back together. I’m in what I think is a pretty good relationship.  (At least she respects me, and doesn’t interfere with pursuing my self-betterment.)  Got a good job, a home, and life is cool.

    Except that in my understanding of Buddhism, which has been the root of my sanity, it is of the utmost importance that people be fearlessly truthful with themselves.  And so in my exploration of my own honest feelings, the reality of my deepest desires, I’ve found that the man I once was is still alive.  Deep down under all the feminist conditioning is a free spirit that is crying out to pursue its potential.  I can hear it when my mind is quiet, when I disengage from the daily distractions.

    The Red Pill is real – we’re mired in deep illusion.  I’m super grateful to see MGTOW does not have the heavy emphasis on using behaviourism to pick up women, which some other communities emphasize.  It’s going to be a giant challenge for me now to reintegrate my understanding of the ethical principles which have guided me for so long (but are tainted by feminism) with my pursuit of clear understanding and wisdom.

    Especially important to me is to understand how this all fits together, so I could do my best not to perpetuate to the next generation those same misconceptions which have plagued me and caused so much confusion in my life.   I see a lot of people are taking a pretty hard-line stance on much of the anti-feminism stuff.  My personal opinion at the moment is that I’d best be as open minded as possible, because it’s clear that things are not as they’d initially appeared.

    Thanks again to you all for being here, and having the courage to be honest with yourselves.  I hope we’ll all have an enlightening journey together.

    -cutroot

    #96610
    On the Path
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    Hey Cutroot,

    Welcome!
    If you want wisdom and understanding, i would suggest a look in the introduction section of this site.
    It sure helped me come to terms with how women treated me, reading how all men suffer in more or less the same way.

    It seems us men are conditioned to think true happiness comes with women and children.
    But in western society a man should rely on himself for that happiness, and do not expect it from someone else.

    Have a stroll down the rabbit hole and enjoy yourself!

    #96623
    Cutroot
    cutroot
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    Thanks you guys for your welcoming words, most appreciated.   I’ll check out the introduction section.

    #96642
    Silverstone
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    Welcome man, nice to see another man seeing the light.

    #96660
    RoyDal
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    Welcome! Meditation is an excellent method for getting your head straight. That is my experience, and I recommend it to anyone who will listen.

    Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

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    Anonymous
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    Hey cutroot, 3 years sober, that’s great! I’m somewhere in the neighborhood of 17 years since I last got drunk, that was the day I turned my lawn and surrounding area into an 18 hole mini golf course (Sam Adams golden pilsner), anyway be careful with that Phillie, they all have hooves and kick, only three years sober, one good kick and you may be drinking just to cover the pain, I’m not questioning your will power, I’m just saying a woman is capable of crippling you in ways you least expect. Be careful, most of them are grenades to a man’s spirit! I hope we don’t see you with a horse shoe print on the side of your head someday.

    #96699
    Soldier-Medic
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    Except that in my understanding of Buddhism, which has been the root of my sanity, it is of the utmost importance that people be fearlessly truthful with themselves. And so in my exploration of my own honest feelings, the reality of my deepest desires, I’ve found that the man I once was is still alive. Deep down under all the feminist conditioning is a free spirit that is crying out to pursue its potential. I can hear it when my mind is quiet, when I disengage from the daily distractions.

    Stay engaged with the man you were once were.  This man is till alive.  You are not a “once were” but an “am now”.

    Peruse your potential with all the fervor of a zealot.  This is your life, and it belongs to nobody else.

    The desire to love, and to be loved is addictive.  Safeguard yourself by educating yourself, about yourself then others.  Being in a relationship involves trust.  You can only trust when you fully understand the other party.

    When this is done then the way becomes clear.

    Trust yourself, your instincts, and your educated mind.

    "I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

    #96715
    Oldscoundrell
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    Take it from a former white knight that faught until beyond the end. Its is by all means…a lost cause(and I had a good one).

    Welcome. Lots of great stuff here that may ring close to home.

    #96853
    BD
    BD
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    Welcome Cutroot,

    I dabbled in reading some Buddhism as well, it’s pretty good stuff,

    I am getting settled in to the Mgtow lifestyle, and I am starting to dabble in all my curiosities, everything that as a child I dreamt of doing, everything that somehow I had set aside by wasting my time with women.

    There is a lot of self growth to be had when your life does not have a dream killer in it, and there is peace and tranquillity on this path,

    Enjoy your journey.

    Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.

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