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Hi all,
I thought i had my living situation well and truly sorted. 36, Small mortgage in a little 2 up 2 down terrace house in the uk. More than ample for my humble needs.
A while ago now the girl who lived next door got in with a rich guy (surprise!) and they rented it out. No problems until 2 private tenants knocked them for rent payments. So they then rented it out through Dss, Which in the US would be social housing i’m guessing. Basically people without jobs. The low life’s of society etc.
But it’s guaranteed rent to the land lords.
I now have an alcoholic women who has numerous other scummy guys that have parties all hours, and are intimidating to the neighbours etc.
This has now got worse as one of these guys with a history for armed robbery and violence moved in 2 weeks ago. It’s been hell! I work long hours in construction and feel like a zombie most days through lack of sleep!
The low down is, that i have complained to my local authorities and found the process so long winded it isn’t worth it. The police are also uninterested unless the guy gets violent heaven forbid! A neighbour also complained and was threatened by the women. I don’t need this kind of s~~~ in my life.
I’m going to sell but it will have to go pretty cheap as i have to declare i’ve complained about the neighbours or risk getting sued down the road.
The thing is i’m really up for making some nice money, so i can afford a nicer place away from such trash. However i don’t know the best way forward, whether to rent or buy again straight off. My long term plan would have been to rent this out and buy another place to settle in but this situation has put a major spanner in the works.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated especially from any business or finance guys. Thanks to all,,
Why not rent out your place with DSS too. You said it: guaranteed rent payments. Or sell it. Most folks view homes during the daytime hours so they wouldn’t know about the late night drama.
Why not rent out your place with DSS too
Ditto.
I was thinking the same thing. maybe you will feel like you’re being a dick to the other neighbors. just give them a heads up if that’s the case.
I bathe in the tears of single moms.
Firstly thanks boys for the replies. I would love to rent this out until everything blows over, which i think it will given the type of lunatics they are.
However i don’t have the cash to do it unless i remortgage. Or i could maybe get a cheap room somewhere, rent out the house and bed down until they leave?
I did have stealthy’s idea about going down the not so legal route of dealing with the problem but i don’t think it would be a good idea.
And yes if i do rent it, it will be to Dss. Both of my nearest neighbours are talking of moving and 3 have sold and gone in the street, since she moved in last year!
Thanks for ideas so far, and any others anyone else comes up with. So grateful for this site and the brotherhood!
The low down is, that i have complained to my local authorities and found the process so long winded it isn’t worth it. The police are also uninterested unless the guy gets violent heaven forbid! A neighbour also complained and was threatened by the women. I don’t need this kind of s~~~ in my life.
I used to practice as a lawyer and have some expertise in this area. You’re taking the wrong approach to this.
The situation is resolvable, but you do need to be patient and willing to exhaust the avenues of complaint. I’ll outline here what I would normally expect you to do in this situation. You may have taken some of these steps already, but it’s worth recapping.
I suggest you log all incidents in diary form. Also speak to neighbours who are also suffering and take statements from them, and furthermore encourage them to keep diaries too.
Once you’ve collected together some evidence, contact the noise abatement team at the local Council. Submit a written complaint to them, and also complain to your local neighbourhood policing team (the PCSOs are best for dealing with this, rather than police officers). Make it clear to both that you expect action. If they don’t co-operate and help you, then they are simply not doing their jobs, which is a serious matter as these incidents could escalate, so you should complain. I am particularly concerned at the response from the police, which looks very unprofessional and irresponsible (though I am not entirely surprised), but remember the police are busy and it may be that you will find you get a better response from the PCSOs, who are more used to dealing with these problems.
What should happen is that the PCSOs should visit them and inform them that they have received complaints (they won’t say from who) and tell them the noise, etc. has to stop. They should also receive a letter from the Council’s noise abatement team, telling them pretty much the same.
That should at least reduce the problem, if not stop it altogether, but if it doesn’t help, then it’s time to write to the landlord. The name and address of the landlord can be found very easily via the Land Registry. You may wish to speak with a solicitor about this, but the long and short of it is that you would be telling the landlord that they are under a duty to take reasonable steps to curb or eliminate the noise nuisance and anti-social behaviour, up to and including removing the tenants. If the landlord does not co-operate, then you can threaten to sue the landlord for the nuisance on the basis that they have not taken steps reasonably within their control to reduce or eliminate the nuisance. I can provide a draft letter and case law on this, should you wish to handle this yourself.
It’s true that these issues would need to be declared if you ever sell the house, but you can’t let that dictate your life. The practical reality of the situation is that if you want to continue living there, then you need to address the problem. Having to declare this to a future buyer is a small problem anyway – by the time you tell them about it, they will have already viewed your property, put in an offer, and agreed to buy it (subject-to-contract) and if the problem has been solved, it’s unlikely to put them off.
Thanks oldbill and Robin. I’m currently in touch with estate agents and have them coming Thursday.
I’ll keep you updated. I’m hoping to sell probably to an invester, rent somewhere. Get my head down, work like hell and buy a little detached place.
I’ll see what they thursday.
Thanks again. You are all Legends!!
That is some s~~~, sorry to hear it. I’m in the UK too and my grandparents had the same problem and went through the long-winded process of complaining to local authorities, which might be best if you want to keep the house, because my grandparent’s problem neighbors were evicted! They and several other neighbors banded together and made multiple complaints. It worked, that’s all I’m saying 🙂
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