A hypothetical: Society collapses and you have resources…

[LupusParticipant 214]

… would there be a set of circumstances in which you would save one or more women.

And if so, what circumstances would be acceptable to you?

 

The bargaining stage as described by Dark Knight.

Would you describe terms or tell her/them to gtfo?

 

[Anonymous 42]

I’ve been slowly Gaulting seriously since Hurricane Irene turned the Central Green mountains VT into islands of isolation. I nearly fled my home in Massachusetts to flee to our place in VT then almost became isolated for a month. I’m lucky I decided to stay in Mass, had I gone to VT, I would have been one those people going hungry. I had no supplies, that’s why I stayed here.

My future investments are going to be making myself able to handle a natural disaster of epic proportions, I have an artisan water resource with a generator, but fuel only lasts so long. I’m going to produce syn-gas from wood pyrolysis gasification.

I have NO need for a woman now, even less when the s~~~ hits the fan! So NO! No deal! Let them starve! They not only didn’t prepare, they drug this society down to eventual collapse. let them scurry around in the streets cannibalizing each other for all I care.

Famine will humble the most outspoken feminist as she connives and begs for food. To her I will say; “Go eat your friends, you deserve each other!”

Then I’d fire up my wood-gas MAN-grille and fry some goat steaks to go with my fruits, vegetables, rice, and beans.

[BestoftherestParticipant 285]

After some thought I came up with this.
If everything is collapsing and I had the supplies to setup a small chunk of land, I would take nothing but men. Of course I would save the men who I believe have the qualities we all need to survive as a team. Than we’ll make a bad ass squad that will go out a few days a week to find easy pussy, since society collapsed throwing a c~~~ a heresy bar will get me and my boys their sexual fix. Recent history would support my premise, Japan/famine/Gi’s etc.

So I will not save any women because the only value they have is sexual and childbearing. Sexual can be covered by the aforementioned means, and childbearing wont be our problem. Someone somewhere will raise the kids we left in the women, white knights will always be around. Society will recover in time.

"Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power."
Abraham Lincoln

[Anonymous 12]

If society collapsed then all of a sudden all the Politically Correct Mangina bulls~~~ counts for nothing at all. Feminism would also be over and done with an instant.

Whether I wanted a woman/women or not wouldn’t matter. I wouldn’t have to choose them, they would choose or try and choose me. The smart women would be trying to latch onto men and trying to be as useful as they could to them, the problem is all most modern women can do is kind of be useful for sex, not many can cook, clean, heal, or anything else anymore and of course during the collapse the internet and electricity also went down so they lose connection with Facebook as well which means they would be like drug addicts in withdrawl.

The really useful ones will survive in a parasitic kind of way. The useless and ugly ones would just die or be taken out by the initial wave of riots.

 

 

[EdogParticipant 254]

Hypothetical collapse?

More like imminent collapse.

And your hypothetical would need to be more specific for me to actually make a definitive comment. I can see plenty of circumstances where I would gladly and happily help, and I can see other circumstances where I might not be too willing. All depends on the circumstance.

[FrankyParticipant 2338]

Lupus wrote:

… would there be a set of circumstances in which you would save one or more women.

I wouldn’t p~~~ on a woman if she was on fire.

[BDParticipant 1146]

Lupus wrote:

would there be a set of circumstances in which you would save one or more women.

No. It would be civil war like, women would be a liability.

Best resources to have,

A farm with a good water source,

A garden, livestock,

Physical gold, silver,

Guns,

And a contingency plan for when all else fails…

Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

Nope!

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[LupusParticipant 214]

Edog wrote:

Hypothetical collapse? More like imminent collapse. And your hypothetical would need to be more specific for me to actually make a definitive comment. I can see plenty of circumstances where I would gladly and happily help, and I can see other circumstances where I might not be too willing. All depends on the circumstance.

 

Fair enough.

Let’s try and keep it as realistic as possible.

The reason we now keep going, even with massive debt, is because we have growing population and people request more mortgages, which in turn creates money (at least according to a youtube movie telling me how money currently works, I haven’t looked much deeper into it because I frankly don’t care too much anymore. If someone wants to argue this point I am open to new sources of information).

So if MGTOW were to get some more traction and our numbers would tip the point where more the amount of mortgages requested would dip below the break even point due to lower population numbers, the economic system would probably collapse. No more money in the banks, governments broke, a complete and total breakdown of society.

In essence, we would be thrown back to the dark ages since the electricity would go out and we would all be pretty much screwed.

Except for the people who are prepared.

Now consider yourself one of those people for this example.

Then apply my question.

 

[BestoftherestParticipant 285]

I figured as much, my response would be the same. Perhaps I’d stack up on more chocolate! mahahaha

"Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power."
Abraham Lincoln

[EdogParticipant 254]

Lupus wrote:

Let’s try and keep it as realistic as possible.

Well, I guess I’ll keep it as real as I can with my answer. In this hypothetical situation, I’d already know ahead of time that this whole thing was planned, and that when it’s finally executed, martial law and a police state will already be in effect, and I’ll either be detained, or killed and therefor my provisions would be really redundant in the end. As well, with the laws Obama has passed, you can have all your provisions seized my the military in times of national crisis, which this would surely be, and as well you can be detained for treason if you make attempt to withhold provisions since these are government assets in these circumstances.  Militaries don’t stand down just because the power goes out and money doesn’t have a standard. That’s the planned part. What militaries do in these circumstances is seize power and oppress people. It’s the perfect storm. The people riot and lose control, and the military is justified for using force to get order from chaos. Problem, reaction, solution.

 

[RebaneParticipant 215]

Nothing personal, but random people (women and men also) can bring diseases, betrayal, conflict. Another mouth to feed, which means resources would be depleted far more quickly. And I doubt I would have time to worry about sex when collapse happens.

It’s best to team up with close family and relatives, maybe a few good neighbors I know for a long time. And have the resources BulletDodger mentioned above.

Just finished reading “Day of the Triffides” by John Wyndham. A great post-apocalyptic novel. Good read for preppers 😀

[LupusParticipant 214]

Edog wrote:

Lupus wrote:

Let’s try and keep it as realistic as possible.

Well, I guess I’ll keep it as real as I can with my answer. In this hypothetical situation, I’d already know ahead of time that this whole thing was planned, and that when it’s finally executed, martial law and a police state will already be in effect, and I’ll either be detained, or killed and therefor my provisions would be really redundant in the end. As well, with the laws Obama has passed, you can have all your provisions seized my the military in times of national crisis, which this would surely be, and as well you can be detained for treason if you make attempt to withhold provisions since these are government assets in these circumstances. Militaries don’t stand down just because the power goes out and money doesn’t have a standard. That’s the planned part. What militaries do in these circumstances is seize power and oppress people. It’s the perfect storm. The people riot and lose control, and the military is justified for using force to get order from chaos. Problem, reaction, solution.

 

Hmmm, I had not considered the militairy system, since it is not as big of a force here in the Netherlands, but I can see how that would pose a serious problem in the US, yeah, provided the soldiers do not run home to protect their families.

 

Thanks for all the responses brothers, it has give me some new insights to contemplate.

 

[nerowolfeParticipant 13]

In a end-of-society-as-we-know-it movie scenario, no I would not save any females.

I would wait until the only females left were the ones able to save themselves. They are the only ones worth considering.

I would never save her, only merge with an already independent one. And only if  the merge would benefit me. If she is looking

for a partner to fill the gaps in her safety/security, then forget it.  If she brings skills that I need, then maybe.

As a class, females have very little respect for life. When they are given ultimate legal authority over life, they choose to kill it.

Do I want to put my life in the hands of someone like that?

[RennieParticipant]

Lupus wrote:

… would there be a set of circumstances in which you would save one or more women. And if so, what circumstances would be acceptable to you? The bargaining stage as described by Dark Knight. Would you describe terms or tell her/them to gtfo?

Only family, the rest of them deserve to starve, since they are so very much responsible for destroying society.

[Anonymous 13]

In response to your initial question and Scenario:  Make friends – alliances with acceptable and exceptional men – when its possible or the situation suits itself to your advantage or your “clique’s” advantage – leave women alone – they are a burden and will cause problems – if you have kids – you may see an advantage a woman might bring if those kids are still young – only then – I would probably choose an attractive woman to watch my kids – I would have terms of course – in exchange for my protection – something I was born to do, and would be good at.

 

Women will have little to no value other than sex.  Sort of like now – only that value will be less able to ensure the same exchange for goods and services at the same value and rate as it does for them now, simple protection service would have to suffice for them – if you chose to start protecting them by droves and hoards – you will find yourself dead very soon.  A hundred years ago and more, women knew how to purify water – clean game – gardening – herbal remedies – some first aide, I mean you’ll find some nurses and that’s a valuable commodity – but if they are somewhat attractive and you are with some other men it will be trouble.  We all know most attractive women (or somewhat attractive women) are toxic today and would just be trouble.

[Anonymous 13]

Anonymous wrote:

Whether I wanted a woman/women or not wouldn’t matter. I wouldn’t have to choose them, they would choose or try and choose me. The smart women would be trying to latch onto men and trying to be as useful as they could to them, the problem is all most modern women can do is kind of be useful for sex, not many can cook, clean, heal, or anything else anymore and of course during the collapse the internet and electricity also went down so they lose connection with Facebook as well which means they would be like drug addicts in withdrawl.

 

I had to reiterate that.

[Tom YoungParticipant 48]

Nope. Regardless of the circumstances, I would put my well being above all else. Is this Societal collapse only in our country/continent of residence ? If so, I would use my resources to get out. If it was worldwide, Id use my resources to get to a nice, desolate mountain and f~~~ all.

[Anonymous 42]

[Anonymous 12]

Another thought on this in a world such as this having women, especially too many women with you would make yourself/your group a target, there would be bands of men out there who wouldn’t think twice to attack another group based on being able to get to their women.

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