A different view on the 'female problem'

[Paradigm ShiftParticipant 1]

Hello,

I am familiar with the views of MGTOW, the InCels and other factions within the “Manosphere”. My personal stance is that certain compaints in each group are legitimate.  I would like to offer a different take on wat is going on, which I feel the folks at MGTOW should seriously consider, for the sake of our own, our children’s and grandchildren’s future. You guys seem to have the desire to actually DO something about the female situation, and discuss things intelligently, unlike other places I’ve been to in the ‘manosphere’.

In the InCel community, I see some golden nuggets of truth, forever tarnished by the PUAhate/Slutehate s~~~storm of whining, closet hebophilia, violent fantasies, and the next domestic terrorist that probably WILL arise from that environment.  In the PUA commpunity, all they do is chase pussy and overanalyze relationships, while missing the forest for the trees. They’re falling for the same fundemental lie conventional wisdom pushes, even though they appear so different.

In many ways, I might be at home with MGTOW philosophy.  However, I believe most men in all factions of the men’s movement are misinformed — in many cases intentionally — about the true nature of female sexual attraction, AND are unaware of just how deep that rabbit hole goes.  I believe men would stand to benefit greatly by considering certain uncomfortable ideas.  Women’s own self-interests, the media, the seduction/PUA community, and conventional reasoning all perpetuate the same big lie, and most of us believe it.

I wrote a free ebook, which I want to be freely shared, torrented and distributed. Free don’t mean “cheap”.  There’s s~~~ in there I don’t see talked about much on men’s boards, and think they should be at least discussed, even if not taken seriously. Please read the entire 30 pages before passing final judgement. The book can be downloaded here:  http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=03540465121329501441

I’ve thought long and hard about what I now know about women, feminism, the manosphere, and what the future holds for the sexual marketplace and society. We are in an unprecedented situation in human history, and once the “Vagina Bubble” bursts, s~~~ could hit the fan. Human sexuality is a big hidden factor in any large economy. Gender issues, when pushed to extremes, will eventually effect the financial market. Remember this rap rhyme:

Money and sex, firmly intertwined, and will always be,

when only the playas getting the goods for free,

and everyone else gotta pay the admissions fee.

Women may be the biggest spenders, but that’s because too many men are giving them all that money. Once men wake up and stop doing women special favors, and they stop playing into women’s deceitful games, spending habits will change accordingly.  That is scary for many corporate and financial interests.  This is one reason the media and hollywood continues to push the ‘nerd-gets-the-girl’ fantasy so hard.

Feel free to torrent my book, quote it, copy it, distribute it, p~~~ on it, s~~~ on it, discretely put copies in bathroom stalls (and have other people s~~~ on them), or send a copy to your ex-wife.  I have no interest in financial reward for the time spend writing it.  The message is straight from the heart.  Though I may use a lot of harsh language, insulting men and woman alike, the truth is, I care about fellow human beings, both men AND women. I don’t like where things are going, and it’s bound to get a LOT worse before things get better.

My views may be very unorthodox, but I feel I provide valid arguments for those views. Men are being played for fools, by female society, by big business, by conventional dating wisdom, AND by the Seduction Community.  All of them, I believe, push the same Big Lie, which I dedicate an entire chapter to in my book.  That same lie benefits not only the Sisterhood, but big corporations. They make that money by getting men to, essentially, try to BUY a woman’s affections. The media, which supports the big corporations, tries to push the lies hard, repeating it so many times that most of us believe it. We believe it, despite our objective reality not matching those beliefs.

I believe looks matter a lot to women, but are pressured to vastly understate and underplay how true that actually is.  Married women are some of the most sexually repressed, sexually frustrated and neurotic individuals you could ever meet.  The “love” women have toward their man is often quite fake.  As a result, many men do not believe women are capable of love.  They ARE — but most are incredibly shallow, and not by choice.  It’s biology.

From personal experience after dramatically altering my own physical appearance, I can tell you it is a completely different world. You CONSTANTLY, BLATANTLY see a side of women that would horrify the typical “beta male”.  You are privy to certain truths about women that they keep hidden from other men. It’s like women have two different personalities – their true selves, which they show to guys they are sexually attracted to, and the fake front they put up around the rest. I don’t understand why more so-called ‘naturals’ don’t speak out about what is really going on in the dating game, and call those PUA gurus out on their bulss~~~ while they’re at it!  The majority of guys have no idea how hard they are being gamed and played.

Alot of ‘naturals’ know what is going on, but just don’t care. Maybe it’s because they’ve drowned in pussy their whole lives and don’t understand anything different.  I sure as hell do, and the way most women play most men like fools is utterly dispicable!  Looks matter, they know it, but don’t want the average man to know how severely true that is. They sell this lie that “other things are more important” as a way of maintaining the status quo and protecting their own self interests.  It just happens that the same lie benefits corporate interests and the charlatans selling love advice, so men remain perpetually confused, frustrated, and taken advantage of.

Read my book, and you’ll understand why the guys that f~~~ a lot of women tend to become “jerks”.  They know how callously women play men that don’t excite them, and the “jerk” part is a natural human reaction to her behavior toward those other men. If you only knew just how blatantly devoid of any guilt some of these women are when no so-called “beta males” are present…but NAWALT has also been my personal experience haha.  There are some good ones out there, but holy f~~~ are they rare.

I believe my book has a valid, although unorthodox, solution to the problems men have with women.  Because it is so unorthodox, I would STRONGLY SUGGEST you please read the full 30 pages in their entirety before passing judement. If gender relations continue as they are, I believe society WILL eventually find itself in a desperate enough position to consider it, if men were to then unite and propose it. Human sexuality is a HUGE factor in social and economic stability, and s~~~ is about to get very real. I go into this at length in my book. Sit down, hit the bong, grab a few beers, relax, and enjoy some f~~~ed up reading.

[Anonymous 42]

S~~~ TEST! We’re MGTOW, society has taken its toll! We don’t need no water let the mothafuccka burn!

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

(+1 @ MG-Tower): My brief and yet provocative question to the opener of this thread, Paradigm Shift, as much as I do try to understand his stance, would still be this one:

“With all due respect for your boldness, newbie, why shouldn’t we take the chance and keep watching this whole (sick economic) system crumble first (in our own way, like we or at least most of us are inclined to) before establishing something new and see what might actually happen in the way we approach this whole matter at hand..?”

Oh and yes, I am very well aware of the entire complexity of the system and its deeper economic implications, that our stance might have…

 

I might even indeed still read your book to be fairish, but this question of mine mentioned above (which will be hard enough to answer by anybody, unless by someone, who is awfully blessed to be able to look way ahead into the future of mankind as a whole) regardless still remains as my personal resolve as a MGHOW with dignity and honor. Now, do try and respect this opinion of mine, cheers…

Ned T.

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

I just quickly read a large (“solution”) part of your e-book, Paradigm Shift and well, just as I was expecting, it utterly lacks realism, it is more like some quite ridiculous utopia based on the lack of understanding the complex female nature, that in conjunction with a misinterpretation of the symptoms of the whole incel’s problematic nature and on top of that is a utopia in the colors of a “brave new world 3.1” mainly biased towards the alleged (not proven!) needs or requirements of (the far more complex) females (than you assume them to be). Furthermore it is based on the precondition, that the whole economic system has to collapse first in whichever way it may, because otherwise such a drastic and in my own personal opinion horrible shift towards quite a rather socially romantic naive dreamer’s type of vision could never happen. I have read enough of it. Dismissed, like MG-Tower correctly wrote it off, as a mere s~~~ test, I’m afraid to say, not being stupid enough to fall for that one. Nice try though, you caught my temporary curiosity, I’ll grant you that with respect but other than that it was disappointing to be blatantly honest…

 

Ned T.

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[KeymasterKeymaster]

No.

As I look around and see s~~~ like Kim Kardashian with XX millions of “followers” make the front page whenever she farts — or when I see Chris Brown pick up a f~~~ing Grammy in front of thousands of screaming fans almost immediately after he beat the living s~~~ out of his girlfriend , and she goes back for more ….. I hear someone use the word “future” in a sentence, and I have to stick my foot out so they trip and fall.

The future is cancelled. Save yourselves.
It’s not really open for discussion.

That’s really all there is to it.

Observe Hiroshima 70 years ago. Entirely flattened and destroyed.
Now compare it to Detroit. Once, the booming automotive capital of the world and the pulse of the nation.

Today, Hiroshima is a lively colorful center in Japan. With life breathed back into it out of the ashes.
Detroit didn’t even need to be bombed. It exploded from the inside.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[AlbertParticipant 646]

I quickly scanned through your ebook. Are you a woman in disguise? You write some proper bulls~~~ that’s certainly not compatible with MGTOW and stinks of female entitlement.

 

Quotes from your book:

Hit the gym – HARD. Save up for cosmetic surgery if you feel it might help you. Get all acne and teeth problems fixed. Overhaul your wardrobe with some female assistance. Find a good hairstyle and facial hair choice.

Encourage your female friends and family not to settle. Encourage them to follow their hearts, but warn them of the reasons so many girls get f~~~ed, then chucked, and left heartbroken.

I want women to be free of the cultural shaming, to be able to be honest about what they want in a man, and have a realistic chance of finding it. I want women to no longer feel that heartbreaking pining for real romantic love despite having been married for many years.

How many marriages would have been saved if the man truly knew what a strong positive impact cleaning up his physical appearance would have on his marriage?

 

My view on the ‘female problem’ is that I don’t care what women want.

It’s not a mans job to care, provide, protect or ‘clean ourselves up’ for some princess who thinks she’s still entitled to privilege and special treatment.

E=MC² Bitch

[peterfaParticipant 833]

@albert, wow, that which you quoted is pukalicious. So narmy, and so critically wrong:

I want women to be free of the cultural shaming, to be able to be honest about what they want in a man, and have a realistic chance of finding it. I want women to no longer feel that heartbreaking pining for real romantic love despite having been married for many years.

How many marriages would have been saved if the man truly knew what a strong positive impact cleaning up his physical appearance would have on his marriage?

First of all, that’s not true love, that’s lust. She wants to marry her pet man and then have all sorts of puppy love feelings. Well, those die after 2 years, and soon you find out the truth of the person. Now, if you’re going to love them, you choose then to do so. That’s true love. Otherwise you drop them and try your luck elsewhere. Some women even legitimately divorce because the man works out too much. One story the guy was narcissistic.

A realistic chance of finding it? WTF? I want a realistic chance of making millions of dollars and making cool things with my free time for the rest of my life. I also want my super genius woman will ridiculously large breasts, a great body, a heart of gold, brown hair and eyes, with an hourglass figure.

Well, either what’s on the market is good enough or it’s not. So many great men are rejected because women don’t know what a good man is. They are bombarded with all these bulls~~~ ideas about men, about how stupid and nasty they are, and how they’re so lucky women haven’t torn them to shreds, but lovingly gave them their precious babies. So, if all these men aren’t good enough for you, then f~~~ you.

Finally, why can’t women make robot boyfriends. Men have sex dolls and crap. Why not get a roomba, a self driving car, Siri with a male voice, and other little gizmos? Use them to satisfy yourself while you find your unicorn Christian Gray.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

peterfa wrote:

@Albert, wow, that which you quoted is pukalicious. So narmy, and so critically wrong:

UM…. no. Albert is right.

I saw a commercial yesterday on youtube. Just by accident. A guy standing at the bar looking at the camera. He asks:
“This is VEGAS. When did HAVING a six pack become more important than DRINKING a six pack???”.

… and then he shrugged his shoulders and called for another beer.

@albert has exactly the right attitude and deserves an Honorary from MGTOW University.

There is an answer to that question too:
“When did having a six pack [for men] become more important than DRINKING a six pack”.… when you are at the biggest amusement park in the world.

Vegas is where women are expected and required to be young and HOT.
And men are expected to bring and spend their money.

We are not going to slave and earn AND be prepared to lose our money AND give vegas whores 6 pack abs. They will suck our dicks and like our beer guts and like it. I don’t even have a beer gut …. but I sure as s~~~ will not be doing crunches before I spank some vegas ass.

You don’t take a woman out, PAY , AND let her order from the menu.
You don’t get a whore and give a f~~~ about her orgasm.
MGTOW do not f~~~ing care what women like – or want. EVER.

There is no reward in it. F~~~ing zero.
But there are enormous rewards, perks and benefits for women who care what men like.
Its the women who don’t who are p~~~ed they never get to enjoy it.

Do crunches and work out because it makes you feel better and you need to sweat.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 42]

Albert wrote:

reasons so many girls get f~~~ed, then chucked, and left heartbroken.

@albert, It really goes like this: “the reason so many girls f~~~, and f~~~, get caught, then chucked, and leave the man heartbroken, is because they are indoctrinated with feminism.

peterfa wrote:

So many great men are rejected because women don’t know what a good man is

@pascal, flip side: So many women are rejected by “good men” because they know what a “bad woman” is….

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