A burn victim or the Michelin man.

[Cheeky BastardParticipant 323]

A burn victim or the Michelin man.

This is something out of character for me because I’m more of a realist egalitarian rather than anything else. But I am going to put my misogynist hat on for this one comment.

What I see as a man these days is that the average males ideals are not represented media today. On every billboard there’s a hideous the figure with so-called fashion hanging off them like it is a post-apocalyptic wasteland.

What I mean by this is. These days’ there only seems to be two choices in women. The one that’s un-healthily skinny or the one that’s un-healthily fat. Where are all the average women?

On top of that we see a whole heap of overweight women bitching about the skinny ones and neither one is more attractive than the other. Men don’t want excessively skinny women and they certainly don’t want fat ones either. That seems terribly harsh but I dated overweight woman I really cared for her we had a good relationship but ultimately in the end sex was too infrequent and she didn’t want a relationship that was only based on intellectuality and mutual respect.

So I fail to see how anybody is right in this situation when the ideal is set by a third party.

I most certainly don’t see how men can be right in this situation when hes vote is not considered or represented. He is oddly enough in his own realm stuck between the choices of something what resembles a burn victim or the Michelin man.

Store manikins and size zeros give women fictitious perspective of what men desire. With an unrealistic perspective being presented to women to aspire to, leads to women destroying themselves through eating problems (too much or to less) and a neurotic obsession which is not based in reality or is more like an outright lie about men. An industry that feeds upon the violation innocence young women and promotes paedophilia just to have the attributes of baby skin and the absence of a natural cellulose based curvaceous womanly figure. This is incorrectly associated with men by feminist rhetoric but does not even include them within the boundaries of body image and fashion obsession. It is purely a female problem. The marketing and advertising industry have to skew the idea of female beauty to separate themselves from the normal women to stand out as an advertising gimmick. Which greatly irritates men because it makes an unjustified assumption about what they find desirable and tries to tell them what they should desire. This nothing to do with the fictitious patriarchy but the fashion industry that is funded by women, control by women and is leading women like sheeple to misandry and a psychotic obsession with the real victims of their self-imposed prison industry, ‘men’.

We’ll skinny women and anorexic women are not attractive just as much as obese ones. So women think that you have to be wretchedly skinny to be attractive are victims of their own mind because men do not find it attractive.

If there’s any validity to the argument that media skews men’s opinions of what is beautiful it comes not in the form of postpubescent fertile women 18 to 27 which the fashion and sex sells advertising hijacks, redirecting towards too skinny and computer enhanced 12 to 23 year olds considering ’25-year-olds’ over the hill. It is insidious coming in the form of the easy access young attractive unbalanced body shaped girls which is also hijacked with the purpose of giving the illusion of access to women they wouldn’t approach in the real world, through Internet porn throwing out the same results. There are some studies on perception to support that men are in a minor way influenced by this and the continuous bombardment of underage women on the front of female clothing stores that are aged within a bracket that would make most men vomit1. The reality is that the image that women are aspiring to is only a 12 year old child trying to sell them women’s underwear.

It my observations are that porn is destructive to long-term relationships which is subsequently blamed on the male when it is western culture and a female controlled industry. How can you shame somebody for something that they didn’t create? Data does tend to show that men that admit to watching large amounts of porn do have higher standards2. Also men that are lonely consume much larger amounts of porn and then wonder where all the pretty women have gone because they have been fed unnatural idealised girls that only make up less than 20% of the population and are likely to be touched up by professional make-up artists or manipulated on a computer. This is giving the Femstoppo all the ammunition they need to enact a global Testicide policy.

So the hard choice for most of the Manosphere is to have a relationship with a woman or you have a relationship with porn which is not really a choice, but a societal and biological imposed Hell.

If men had an actual standard that was even considered by mainstream it would be young healthy women of average age and average body shape supplemented by exercise and muscle tone. It does not include starved women without muscle tone or unhealthy body fat. What women don’t understand is that men are actually repulsed by the extremes represented as the media based ideal woman. What this is attractive to men is not what is generated in the minds of women by their industry in which they manipulate and control to their own detriment. The fashion industry is predominantly dominated by women and gay men which have no idea what a beautiful woman is to men, but they still put their dresses on skinny unattractive women thinking that this is what men want without asking them and it is a delusion that they have manufactured themselves.

That is what you get women for assuming and trying to tell men what they should find attractive. You get a psychotic female population obsessed with body image that is delusional and does not exist in the minds of men which you subsequently blame for your own creation.

Personally if the fashion industry made the following amendments to their behaviour they would make a far more balanced and responsible industry by at least consulting men on what men really want rather than making it up in their head. If you tell a lie to somebody often enough they start to believe it.

I am infuriated by other people telling me what I should find attractive.

Fashion industry follow the suggestions or consume yourself:

1.Only women prescribed to the paradigm that’s skinny is attractive because men do not change it or don’t say it.

2.That they stop using women under 18 years of age the model garments, on catwalks, storefronts and billboards. It is obvious that no woman of consenting age is going to be able to look like a 12-year-old being prostituted by irresponsible women and gay men sexual child abusers and there should be a law to criminalise it.

3.No female under the age of consent should be presented in a sexual way. This should include creepy pageants where 6 to 10-year-olds are wearing skimpy outfits. Stop to feeding viol sex offenders (I wholeheartedly agree with castration for child and legitimate sex offenders).

4.That day stop promoting anorexia and bulimia which is based in a false paradigm that men do not find attractive and puts massive pressure on young women to abuse their bodies.

5.And last fall use women that fit between the sizes two to six to model garments which will be a more well-rounded and sensible practice.

6.Actually asked men what they find attractive instead of peddling assumed ridiculous and skewed belief systems.

7.Stop blaming men for fashion absurdities that are obviously a predominantly female obsession.

8.Ultimately women need to take responsibility for what they have created. Stop using scapegoats to justify your irresponsibility and culture you have created. Fashion has been at the sole discretion of the woman. Heterosexual men do not design clothes. Women designed high heel shoes and the excuse “I have to do because” is not culturally responsible

References

1.Bergner, R. M., & Bridges, A. J. (2002). The significance of heavy pornography involvement for romantic partners: Research and clinical implications. Journal of Sex &Marital Therapy, 28(3), 193-206.

2.Philaretou, A. G., Mahfouz, A. Y., & Allen, K. R. (2005). Use of Internet pornography and men’s well-being. International Journal of Men’s Health, 4(2).

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Cheeky Bastard
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[heads-upParticipant 320]

Cheeky Bastard wrote:

of what men desire.

Women have no concern of what men desire really.They get together on social media and develope new “mental issues” like Thigh Gap etc.
As an example of their mindset.
They tend to like men with Tight Bums.
They then assume all men like women with neat bums(many men like round wide bottoms)
They then fret about it 24/7
Then the media (not men) tells them big ass is in vogue.
They get implants to aquire said big asses.
and so on
What men like is irrelevant really
CheekyBasterdWrote
or you have a relationship with porn which is not really a choice, but a societal and biological imposed Hell.

I think people (men/women) use porn rather than have relationship with it.I dont see how that is hell.

[Cheeky BastardParticipant 323]

By that you mean it is irrelevant to them.

The discussion is based on sensible interpretation and discussion even academic. That is what it is about what we think amongst ourselves and how it affects us only. Women are irrelevant our manosphere is not.

With discussion there is Enlightenment and understand discussing it makes us aware and in a position to improve our own lives.

Sincerely
Cheeky Bastard
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ABN 71 247 061 775

and
23 year gaming icon Cheeky Bastard

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[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Stop thinking about what women like or want.

You will never evey understand …. or even keep up with the changes.

Think of the enigma machine and add another five rotor wheels.

Put your time and thought to reality ?

[Cheeky BastardParticipant 323]

I often don’t like to say this because it does sound adversarial but I must ask did you read the article? Because the statement you’re making seems contrary to the theme of the article itself.

If you did read the whole article then I didn’t cover the topic very well. I wish to discuss how these things influence our lives as men. Men like to formulate solutions as well talking gregariously without an emotional subtext rents.

I do want to talk about women and what they want I will talk about what happens and how it affects our lives. It is a topic that doesn’t get discussed much other than when he bought bitching about women. I wish to know this subject better by asking for intellectual import as well as solution forming theory that may be beneficial to our future or even our children’s future if that may be the case.

I would better understand how these things influence our lives and if there is solutions that can be implemented socially or individually.

Sincerely
Cheeky Bastard
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ABN 71 247 061 775

and
23 year gaming icon Cheeky Bastard

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[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Cheeky Bastard wrote:

I often don’t like to say this because it does sound adversarial but I must ask did you read the article? Because the statement you’re making seems contrary to the theme of the article itself.
If you did read the whole article then I didn’t cover the topic very well. I wish to discuss how these things influence our lives as men. Men like to formulate solutions as well talking gregariously without an emotional subtext rents.
I do want to talk about women and what they want I will talk about what happens and how it affects our lives. It is a topic that doesn’t get discussed much other than when he bought bitching about women. I wish to know this subject better by asking for intellectual import as well as solution forming theory that may be beneficial to our future or even our children’s future if that may be the case.
I would better understand how these things influence our lives and if there is solutions that can be implemented socially or individually.

Hahaha yes you’re right …. I was skipping through with toast and coffee on my way out the door. I was trying to sum up in few words that basically thinking this was is a waste of time.

I’ve spent many years in fashion, magazines and some soft porn (as a photograper) and I know this machine very well.

However, I will come back and answer at length but right now …. I literally must fly ?

[Cheeky BastardParticipant 323]

Look forward to hearing your views

Sincerely
Cheeky Bastard
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23 year gaming icon Cheeky Bastard

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