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Hello and I hope you are doing well.
Being a naive, heedless 19 year-old I found MGTOW to be sad and pathetic. A safe place for lesser males to hide and weep. Oh how wrong was I? Once again, my ignorance got the better of me. My opinion on MGTOW had completely changed when I stumbled across a video which explained Briffault’s Law. How could I have not seen this? A relationship is merely a consensual transaction between two people. Nothing more.
Maybe it’s my wild hormone fluctuations, but there is still a part in me that wants to not believe in Briffault’s law and a relationship is something special and intimate. Rather than a transaction.
I have also seen a lot of posts on this forum that suggest that women make cold calculated moves to collect as much of the resources from the man as they possibly can. But again, there is still a part in me that denies this.
I also want to thank you guys for welcoming me into this community. I really appreciate it.
A King may move a man, a father may claim a son, but remember that even when those who move you be kings, or men of power, your soul is in your keeping alone. When you stand before God, you cannot say, "But I was told by others to do thus." Or that, "Virtue was not convenient at the time." This will not suffice.

Anonymous42You can learn the hard way or the easy way, either way you will learn…
Smart men learn from their mistakes, but wise men learn from the mistakes of others. Be wise.
Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.
Fella at work today was telling me how much overtime he is doing.
This chap has a gorgeous wife, girl next door type, not a Princess, intelligent, upper working class, couple of kids, I was always a bit jealous.
“Wouldnt you rather be spending more time at home with your family?”, I asked, “what family”, he replied, turns out they split two years ago, he has lost his family, his house, got to keep all the debts though, now he has to live with his brother who himself has experienced the same at womens hand.Maybe it’s my wild hormone fluctuations, but there is still a part in me that wants to not believe in Briffault’s law and a relationship is something special and intimate. Rather than a transaction.
It’s your Y chromosome that want’s to believe relationships are intimate and special. In a man’s brain, they are. Relationships are only manipulative in a woman’s brain, however. DO NOT make the mistake millions of men have made by thinking that women think the same way we do.
You must first remove reason and accountability THEN consider that everyone on the planet is there to serve your whims, in order to understand how women view relationships.
This is the reality in which we live. Like Tower said, you can learn it the easy or the hard way. I’m partial to the quote: “The average man learns from his own mistakes, the wise man learns from the mistakes of others, and the fool does neither.” Unknown.
PS: Welcome to the Forums, Mr Smith.
When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.
Greetings Adam S.,
Can you share more about your life these days?
What kind of fun things are you doing as a MGTOW?
….Being a naive, heedless 19 year-old I found MGTOW to be sad and pathetic. A safe place for lesser males to hide and weep. Oh how wrong was I? Once again, my ignorance got the better of me…..
I was the same way in my twenties.
A lot of my elders tried to warn me about “Women’s Nature,” but I thought those old guys were “pathetic” and that it would never happen to me.
They called me “young, dumb, and full of cum.”
In my defense, the concept of Woman’s Narcissisms was over my head at that time. And nothing could have prepare me for the reality of it.
Textbook Narcissistic Personality Disorder:
They’re dangerous, they blatantly lie, and they don’t care who knows it. That’s one of the traits of this pathology.Here is a modified version of something that Keymaster wrote as a reply many moons ago which I think applies here:
Women tell themselves “I want ……” And they truly don’t seem to give a s~~~ what man helps them get it. That’s one of the most off-putting realities for most men to comprehend at any time.
The words and emotions coming from women too often convince men that they have a “Unicorn” and NAWALT.
Most Men are stubborn and will adhere to the illusion of finding the “One,” even when their “Unicorn” is doing the following:
I really wanna get married
I really want …
My wedding will be like….
ME ME ME ME ME ME….For a women, their “man” is really a non-consideration.
What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?
Live for yourself. The only one you can ever truly count on. Female hypergamy ends where male sovereignty begins.
Jack off a lot and just watch for a while. Learn the s~~~ tests and tricks chicks pull here on this website. You will be surprised how much clearer your understanding will become. Welcome, your lucky
When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.
Remember that all this s~~~ started way back with Eve in the Garden of Eden. Women are the root of all evil in the world. Before you go sticking your manhood in Pandora’s Box, you best unequivocally understand beforehand, that no matter what a woman says it’s either 1) A lie, 2) A Half-Truth, or 3) A Full Truth all of which only serves as part of some bigger scheme to screw you over. Go ahead and boink them if you want, but don’t ever get married, co-mingle finances in any way shape or form, or let a woman move into your home. You will rue the day my young friend and the costs of getting involved in female relationships will haunt you financially for decades down the road. I tell you what. We MGTOW have been around this race track demolition derby a few times. Whenever a c~~~ says something to you that just doesn’t make any f~~~ing sense. Post the verbal exchange here and we will dissect it for you and reveal the true meaning and it’s significance.
And wear two rubbers if you decide to take a s~~~ty chance, then flush has them down the toilet. If you get head, make sure you have a bottle of water to give her right after and watch her swollow.
When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

Anonymous13Welcome Adam.
One of the biggest misconceptions of MGTOW is it’s for a bunch of sad guys who can’t get laid. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Just about all the guys here are very experienced with women, and some still are with women. Most of us have been married, some more than once. The rest, including myself could have a woman tomorrow if we wanted.
However, we are choosing not to because through bitter experiences we’ve learned their true nature. Even if we decide to be with a woman, no marriage, no kids, no cohabitation.
So, on the contrary, not men who can’t find a woman but men who can have a woman anytime but instead are choosing to walk away in droves.
You have to ask yourself why that is, it must be a damn good reason.
Almost everything you’ve been told about this world is actually a total inverse. You’ve been lied to, your whole life.
Time to do something about that s~~~.
@The Manipulated Man
Currently I am applying to read Economics at university. Personally, I would definitely say that I am driven by money. Hence, why I want to study Economics. I play a lot of sport (Football, Rugby and Cricket). I am still in school, so my academic study is my top priority. Though in class and around school I will sometimes get stares from the opposite sex and maybe sometimes they’ll approach me. I have never had any relationships in school or anything of that persuasion for that matter, as like I said, my academics are my top priority.
A King may move a man, a father may claim a son, but remember that even when those who move you be kings, or men of power, your soul is in your keeping alone. When you stand before God, you cannot say, "But I was told by others to do thus." Or that, "Virtue was not convenient at the time." This will not suffice.

Anonymous3I have also seen a lot of posts on this forum that suggest that women make cold calculated moves to collect as much of the resources from the man as they possibly can. But again, there is still a part in me that denies this.
As a student of economy, think about this merger.
Two companies, MC an HV decide to merge. The initial financial reports indicated HV is very well off, while MC has a short cashflow but a lot of promises.
After the merger it is found that MC has a lot of hidden debts, requiring some financial recovery plans.
Then the old cashflow issues emerge again, apparently caused by MC management that does not care to abide by any financial plan.
The promising business of MC ends up also to be speculative at most, if not a total fraud.
By this time what is left of the HV company decides to terminate the merger.
However the courts see it differently and HV ends up paying huge fines and goes bankrupt.Bad business deal, wouldn’t you say? That is the deal all men (Helpless Victims Inc.) make with all women (Manipulative C~~~ Ltd.)
What blinds us men is the fairytails we where brainwashed with.Listen to what the people on this forum say!
Learn from other peoples mistakes.
One mistake with a woman can ruin your whole life!
Monk
Take heed of these guys’ words, and watch for the obvious, and the not-so-obvious, signs. About 9 years ago, I was extra-fortunate in that when I was (ignorantly and blissfully) trying to convince a coworker to date me; SHE repeatedly WARNED ME that she was “high-maintenance.” I dismissed those warnings and pushed; so we went out a few times and kissed, but nothing (thankfully) ever seriously materialized. Since was the first woman I had ever kissed, I (obviously) fell for her. However, a light came down from the heavens and luckily, SHE ended it first after 6 months. Yeah it hurt initially, as those “firsts” sometimes do. However, in retrospect, she was a truckload full of wet, old, estrogen-laiden dynamite, just waiting for me to start playing with. Yes, she was a turbo-hottie, to say the least – her looks still up my heart rate, but only for a few, fleeting moments, before I realized the IED I avoided. Invariably, her smoking looks most-likely contributed to her psycho-in-sheep’s-clothing mental state. Lost of drama with her (with lots more potential lurking right behind those “innocent eyes”), and looking back…the flags. Oh, the flags with her! All over the place!! Their “tractor beam” can really ensnare those innocent and unsuspecting fellas. Thank God I didn’t burn her – she had the makings of a Grade A, Class 1, gold-standard vindictive psycho.
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