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Just need to rant about a couple of things, call me insensitive but I think its needed.
First off I am sick to death of seeing people invading the media with homosexuality. Disney characters, that stupid ‘Marriage’ of Dumbledore and Gandalf, pretty much everything recently revolves around gay people. Nothing is sacred anymore.
If you dont want homosexuality to be such a big deal, stop making it such a big f~~~ing deal! It seems many gays need to get over the fact that they are gay and stop shoving it down our throats.
Second, my sister is turning into a feminist. Short hair, nose stud, mens clothes etc She complains about how unfair life can be for women yet is one of the most spoilt, selfish, self absorbed, ignorant and down right laziest people I know.
She is also a gay ‘Non binary’ which apparently means she doesnt ‘feel’ like she is either gender.
Only in a feminist society is ‘Gender fluid’ ‘Otherkin’ ‘Non binary’ and other nonsense considered normal. It has to be a side effect of our self obsessed society, you dont get s~~~ like this in 3rd world countries(or at least nowhere near the amount) I’m not saying you cant except people being this way, but to think its normal is down right insanity!
There is Man in a mans body, Woman in a womans body and then there are crazy people.
Anyway those are some things I needed to get off my chest, would love to know what you gentlemen think.
So I knew two guys when I was growing up that eventually came out later in life. It seemed totally natural to me and it was pretty clear to me looking back that they were “always gay”. It had nothing to do with sex in a sense – they were both smart guys, introverted, and had a hard time fitting in. Well, we all had a hard time fitting in – being a kid is hard – they just seemed to be dealing with a different set of problems at the time. When I learned they were gay I was just like “ah, yes, that totally makes sense”.
So seeing that as I was growing up is probably why I think homosexuality is a natural state for some people and it does not p~~~ me off or bother me fundamentally.
However, I have seen other guys go through a different development. It is not so much about struggling with “who they are”, but becoming comfortable with “losing their inhibition”. These guys are always highly sexual, and for one reason or another end up preferring being promiscuous with males instead of females. But that is all it is, promiscuity and a dismissal of inhibition, and I’m sorry – that is something that should be under ones self control.
So in todays world I do have a real problem with the “legitimization” of promiscuity – be it heterosexual with todays hookup culture or homosexual – both cases are a consequence of throwing inhibition out the window. I think it is important for a bunch of reasons to save the most intimate exchanges for those who you truly care about, and that exchange can be between a man and a women, two women, or two men.
So I have equal “hate” for the gay community AND the heterosexual crowd.
She is also a gay ‘Non binary’ which apparently means she doesnt ‘feel’ like she is either gender. Only in a feminist society is ‘Gender fluid’ ‘Otherkin’ ‘Non binary’ and other nonsense considered normal.
Where do they come up with this s~~~?
It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything
She is also a gay ‘Non binary’ which apparently means she doesnt ‘feel’ like she is either gender. Only in a feminist society is ‘Gender fluid’ ‘Otherkin’ ‘Non binary’ and other nonsense considered normal.
Where do they come up with this s~~~?
This phenomena is being marketed as some kind of f~~~ing awakening of human consciousness. It is in reality an alarming indicator of the collapse of society. Through social engineering, both governmental and corporate, people everywhere (predominantly westernised societies though) are wandering through their lives aimlessly.
They’re being told constantly that they can be whoever they want to be, or whatever they identify with, but in their heads they’re screaming in pain. The lines of longitude and latitude that previous generations have been able to follow have become so blurred, that people have lost the ability to govern themselves.
We’ve diverged so far from the natural order of things that only a total collapse and rebuild will be able to resolve anything. Change is fine, change is good; but you still need to be able to see those lines.
"This happens every time one of these floozies starts poontangin' around with those show folk fags. - Sheriff Buford T. Justice"
“First off I am sick to death of seeing people invading the media with homosexuality.”
With all the s~~~ going on in the world, (Ukraine, Syria, Greece, Middle East Issues, Poverty, Police State, Wage Gap, Unemployment, Men’s Right’s, etc etc etc)
You are focusing on this? Really?
Why? So many other events, and people need your attention at this critical time in the world, and THIS is what is getting to you? Come on man, there are wayyyyyy to many other thing’s to focus on right now in our country….Turn the channel, turn your head, turn down the volume, unplug your cable and send them f~~~ers a real message!!!!
Anyways, doesn’t seem like anything to get in a twist over sir.
Men are at a time when panning for gold in a urinal has a higher probability of success than finding a faithful and loving woman, it is time to go your own way.....
Only in a feminist society is ‘Gender fluid’ ‘Otherkin’ ‘Non binary’ and other nonsense considered normal. It has to be a side effect of our self obsessed society, you dont get s~~~ like this in 3rd world countries(or at least nowhere near the amount) I’m not saying you cant except people being this way, but to think its normal is down right insanity!
Many years ago they would have been called insane, but then the internet happened, and the insane – yearning to fit in – congregated and begun measuring themselves against each others insanity. This made them go even further into the throes of insanity, until they reached a point, where return is no longer possible.
Anonymous0People have a lot of free time and money on their hands. And they’re bored. So they re-invent themselves as gay, non-binary, otherkin, or whatever. Or they go into surgery and do body modification, gender reassignment, and so on.
I could come up with better uses for that excess time and money, of course. But it’s not like *I’m* out saving the world with *my* excess time and money either.
I say, Live and let live. If they can afford it and it’s legal, then it’s none of my business. It just makes for a decadent, colorful world. It’s fun to watch and scratch my head at what’s going on. I expect a lot of them will eventually come to regret the weird choices they made. If the economy takes a hit, I imagine they’ll regret the fact that they spent their savings on tattoos and body modifications and flying out to wiccan conventions rather than paying down a house and a mortgage. But either way, it’s not my problem.
As far as homosexuality goes, I believe that it is determined at birth and it is mother nature’s way of keeping certain gene pools from being passed on. Their brains are wired so that they do not have the instinctual drive to pro-create. This is why I look down on the idea of letting either gay women or men have children through surrogate or other means. Whether it is a cruel stance or not, to me it just seems to be a way to circumvent what nature has put in place. The same goes with gays raising children. I don’t make assumptions that there will be child abuse or anything like that, but again it is not how we evolved. It’s more feel good, all inclusive bulls~~~ that makes modern society a laughingstock. Just another example of why humankind sickens me.
The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.… people invading the media with homosexuality….
I used to wonder why all this “victims rights” stuff was going on.
This phenomena is being marketed as some kind of f~~~ing awakening of human consciousness. It is in reality an alarming indicator of the collapse of society. Through social engineering, both governmental and corporate, people everywhere (predominantly westernised societies though) are wandering through their lives aimlessly.
Then, I came to the same conclusion. Now, I wonder why it’s so well funded and so well choreographed.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
It is hilarious to watch everyone so happy about gay marriage being legal only to know that later when gays are getting divorced they will wish they had nevergot married. As for gender fluid people they just want to feel special so they make s~~~ up. I used to do stuff like that, but I was never serious about it. In high school I would call myself a Saiyan and try to do Kamehameha waves, but that was mostly for s~~~s and giggles at lunch. I wasn’t trying to write Saiyin down for my race on my tests lol. I would consider me some type of trans though in the sense when it comes to children I have very strong maternal instincts. When I am around babies and little kids I act very much like a woman. Also I am almost 30 and have no kids and the way I talk you would think I was a woman almost turning 30 lol. However I don’t go around demanding I am special and some new type of male gender lol.
I’m sorry to hear your sister is a Tumblrina, they make up new words every second, in a desperate attempt to feel special.
Every time I hear about some transgender activist bitching and complaining about their lot in life I just want to kick them right straight in the crotch as hard as I can. If they are a girl wanting to be a guy I’d tell them to kick me back like a man. If they are a man wanting to be in a woman I want to ask them if they feel like a girl now.
I really don’t mind the ideology of most South East Asian trannies. Why? They’re all just whores. They know what they are. They’re looking for some dude to f~~~ them and give them money. If they start acting uppity, usually their Brit or Aussie boyfriend will take care of their bitch ass with a dry f~~~ and a couple of donkey punches.
I find most male trannies want to be women to avoid personal responsibility. They want someone else to man up and take care of them. That is their dream. Women wanting to be guys is like our current US President. They like the idea of the job of being a man, but they don’t want to do the work of being a man. Either way, they both want some kind of respect but don’t want to do anything to earn the respect.
Don't stick your dick into anyone you aren't willing to put up with for eighteen years and nine months.
You know it is difficult to say in my opinion whether people who are gay were born that way or not but I think it is safe to say that at least some are not born as gay. I personally do not give a s~~~ what they do on their own time so long as they are not trying to shove the lifestyle down the throat of the rest of us and are not committing crimes. This has reminded me of a video I saw the other day where a guy with an undercover camera or some such went to a gay bar and ended up getting people who say they are gay to admit to having sex with children and that they were not gay until after they had been molested. I cannot verify the accuracy of it but its included below.
http://www.wnd.com/2015/06/hidden-camera-gays-admit-theyre-not-born-that-way/
I do wish the audio was better but you get the idea.
Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self. -Terry Goodkind
Degeneracy is the new progress.
What they call progress: telling a guy who cuts off his dick, get plastic t~~~ and pretends to be a woman that his behaviour is normal, and htat he really is a woman
What I call progress: scientific research, actual philosophy ( not feel-osophy), reducing unemployment, fighting homeless and hunger.Having a decent sense of priorities getting you labelled a bigot nowadays.
L-f~~~ing-mao
It is a common failing of childhood to think that if one makes a hero out of a demon the demon will be satisfied.
Wait, how can you be gay if you are “non-binary?” If you don’t believe that gender is binary, no male and female, then how can you be gay if you don’t identify with a gender?
Logic fail
Critical brain failure
*implodes*PBS is devoting much more coverage to the issue, particularly after Bruised Gender’s announcement that he really wanted to be another Kardashian. It’ll be getting less money from me when (or maybe if) I renew my membership.
“First off I am sick to death of seeing people invading the media with homosexuality.” With all the s~~~ going on in the world, (Ukraine, Syria, Greece, Middle East Issues, Poverty, Police State, Wage Gap, Unemployment, Men’s Right’s, etc etc etc) You are focusing on this? Really? Why? So many other events, and people need your attention at this critical time in the world, and THIS is what is getting to you? Come on man, there are wayyyyyy to many other thing’s to focus on right now in our country….Turn the channel, turn your head, turn down the volume, unplug your cable and send them f~~~ers a real message!!!! Anyways, doesn’t seem like anything to get in a twist over sir.
To answer this, the OP posted in his main argument.
Second, my sister is turning into a feminist.
People have always and will always concern themselves with what’s closest to home. Maybe they do care about the issues you stated, but this has enough passion behind it to merit it’s own post.
Concerning your sister’s identity as a feminist, this is really the social norm at this age in society, it is PC and requires little to no brain power, in addition, it has a huge indoctrination base and following.
“If you don’t stand for something, you’ll fall for anything.” I’m not going to bother looking up who said that, but the point is still valid.
I’m guessing your sister isn’t a devout religious person, or even semi so, this being said, she lacked direction and arrived at what she felt to be “her own conclusion”, which was feminism.
She will feel even more passionate about this, because she believed her ethical moral compass to be entirely her own directional choice, when in fact, when it concerns feminism, she has merely been stamped onto the other side of the issue opposed to traditionalism.
Feminism for all it’s hidden bulls~~~, disguises itself with strong emotional pulls that naturally attract irrational emotionally racked creatures.
Such blatant problematic loopholes such as the wage gap not resulting in an entirely female workforce for ~30% cheaper labor is lost on them, all that is felt is the emotional response.
This is because on the average, men think then feel, women feel then think. If you’re always wrapped up in your feelings, you never get to the thought processes, because feminism is always manufacturing another victimization platform to spiral your female emotions.
Men are easier to manipulate on a person to person basis, women are easier to manipulate on a grand scale. In part, I believe this to be the cause of strong social bonds women forge with each other, resultant from hunter and gatherer evolutionary processes.
Psychologists, scientists, advertisers etc. have figured this out, and as part of business industry, readily exploit this fact. They know men are more difficult, their solution is to manipulate the man, by manipulating the women.
You ever see the advertising for men’s shaving cream? Usually has a woman rubbing on his face in approval. Person to person manipulation. This is men’s weakness.
My advice concerning your sister, don’t try to change her mind. Any logic she may muster to escape the feminist spiral of idiocy will be overwhelmed by the next feminist victimization outcry. I’m sorry but there’s nothing to be done. She’s addicted to an emotional response of persecution like a drug addict, except this form is socially approved.
I apologize for any typos- grammatical errors and misspellings.
She is also a gay ‘Non binary’ which apparently means she doesnt ‘feel’ like she is either gender. Only in a feminist society is ‘Gender fluid’ ‘Otherkin’ ‘Non binary’ and other nonsense considered normal.
Where do they come up with this s~~~?
I kinda like it. It’s a carte blanche to doing WTF-ever and when feminists start complaining about male behaviour just go: “No, right then and there I felt like a binary woman! You sexist creep!”.
Just need to rant about a couple of things, call me insensitive but I think its needed. First off I am sick to death of seeing people invading the media with homosexuality. Disney characters, that stupid ‘Marriage’ of Dumbledore and Gandalf, pretty much everything recently revolves around gay people. Nothing is sacred anymore. If you dont want homosexuality to be such a big deal, stop making it such a big f~~~ing deal! It seems many gays need to get over the fact that they are gay and stop shoving it down our throats. Second, my sister is turning into a feminist. Short hair, nose stud, mens clothes etc She complains about how unfair life can be for women yet is one of the most spoilt, selfish, self absorbed, ignorant and down right laziest people I know. She is also a gay ‘Non binary’ which apparently means she doesnt ‘feel’ like she is either gender. Only in a feminist society is ‘Gender fluid’ ‘Otherkin’ ‘Non binary’ and other nonsense considered normal. It has to be a side effect of our self obsessed society, you dont get s~~~ like this in 3rd world countries(or at least nowhere near the amount) I’m not saying you cant except people being this way, but to think its normal is down right insanity! There is Man in a mans body, Woman in a womans body and then there are crazy people. Anyway those are some things I needed to get off my chest, would love to know what you gentlemen think.
Hear, hear. Very well said.
I’m personally very tired of the whole concept. I really think this whole “gender classification” issue is just yet another example of feminists de-railing and creating a subterfuge in order to mask their other un-winnable arguments. By giving a loud voice to yet another group of “persecuted” peoples, it serves to confound and confuse any given feminist false, unprovable, and ridiculous “issue” at hand by drawing attention away from it. It seems that whenever any of their “issues” (first world 10 year old mentality problems) are challenged or are legitimately countered, they pull the classic female maneuver: “I can’t win the argument I have currently started, so I’m going to drag something else into it in order to confuse the entire dialogue or discourse, rather than concede that my thinking is in error.”
In short, if they can confuse by having 50 arguments on the go at once, they don’t have to effectively deal with any one of them. It’s what they tend to call “multi-tasking”, something which they profess to innately excel at. As per usual, they don’t grasp the concept and somehow think that half-ass solving 50 things at once constitutes a victory, rather than actually EFFECTIVELY dealing with each issue.
On the micro level, this seems to occur in just about every argument they present, even on a one to one personal level.
A personal example with “wife” who was a single mother, and has sucked a man into her life and troubles:
Woman: “My children need stability! You aren’t doing enough around here, I need you more involved with them, and I need more time to myself. Would it kill you to help pick up the house from time to time?!?! I feel like I am doing all the work around here!!”
Man: ” This house is a complete and total mess because of your children. The children you had before we even became a part of one another’s life. You’ve completely dropped the ball in teaching them any responsibility or in having a positive male role-model around during their developmental years; and now you are somehow implying that I am being irresponsible in my capacity of having to correct everything which you’ve failed at. You seriously need to re-think what you are saying. Am I in this relationship to be a part of YOUR life, and to share in our joys and triumphs, or am I simply here to take on the challenges which you’ve so spectacularly failed at confronting or completing? I have a life to live, and life is short. My life will not be completely preoccupied with making your life better, especially since you are making very little effort to make MY life better. Maybe you should consider yourself lucky that someone is willing to still become a part of your adult life despite the fact that you’ve already demonstrated a major lack of decision-making ability.”
Woman (who of course has been called on her own bulls~~~): “Oh for God’s sake, MAN UP. Everything is about YOU! Men are so childish! This is JUST like you! Playing cards and drinking in the basement while I am having to look after the children and clean up all the dishes!” (this is of course an attempt to derail the conversation, rather than concede that her thinking is wrong).
Man using logic (which might as well be a speech in dead latin) : “Again, these are not OUR children. These are your children and your/their mess. Be grateful that I give the time and finances which I already do in order to make your life and your children’s life a little better. This is not an automatic entitlement for you to completely absorb my life into the mess that is yours. My TIME is valuable to me. Perhaps you can actually reward me for my efforts by leaving my house from time to time with your loud and messy children (who consequently do not even identify with me as their father) so that I can have some peace and quiet after I’ve worked a long day. Everything is NOT about me, but you’ve somehow managed to imply that because I’ve chosen to have a relationship with you, I am now fully responsible for correcting all of your and your exe’s mistakes and problems. You got pregnant with your drug-dealing, thieving, moronic irresponsible ex (things which you failed to divulge to me at the initiation of our relationship) because he had a washboard stomach, because he was SEXY, and because he was a BAD BOY teee hee hee hee hee. Now you are having to ante up to the situation which YOU have created. I was not part of THAT poker game to begin with, so it’s not MY responsibility to chip into the pot. And by the way, you could have already cleaned up the mess you were talking about, instead of just talking about it.”
Woman: “You make me sound like such an awful person for having children!! You make it sound like you hate me! Why did you even get into a relationship with me to begin with, just to rub it into my face?!?!?!”
Again, rather than actually own up to her own responsibilities and “WOMAN-UP”, she will not concede; its much easier to confound the issue at hand by trying to include invasive concepts and arguments so as to not have to deal with her own irresponsible behaviour.
This example was not pulled out of thin air or imagined on the spot. This was an actual real life occurrence which I lived through on an almost daily basis whilst I was still young, and completely retarded for having gotten into a relationship with this woman.
On a Macro level, I think that this same tactic is used by way of the media, “popular thinking” and by way of politics.
Feminists will welcome into their ranks, the very confused and confounding groups and people which Lukeylala speaks of.
By having a million voices, all crying out about each of their individual problems at once, they create an environment where they have absolute chaos, and have created an environment where each of these groups can slide whatever they wish under the carpet so that the very illogical principle of their initial argument goes unnoticed. In essence, they wish to tire their adversary out, rather than actually deal with the problem they’ve created. It’s like a 12 year old girl saying to daddy:
“I want a popsicle”
“No, you’ve had two. You have to wait until after dinner.”
“I want a popsiclllllleeee”
“No”
“MOMMY I WANT A POPSICLE WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH”
Then Mommy gets in on it.
“Ohhhh Johnnn…..just one popsicle won’t hurt her” meanwhile the 12 year old is still now screaming “WAHHhHHHHH WAHHHHHHHH YOU DON”T LOVE ME DADDY”.
Eventually the guy gets tired of this s~~~, forgets about the original argument, and gives in so as not to have to hear the f~~~ing noise anymore, which is now being supported by the weak kneed mommy.
These feminists are screaming for a f~~~ing popsicle, and have sent in the “Non-Binary, Turnip_lover, Three-Tit Cis-gendered Flipper foot Non Sexuals” in to lure us away from their initial bulls~~~, and tire us to the point where we finally just give them their popsicle, and for what reason?
Just to have them “Shut……..The………F~~~………..Up.”
Sorry to rant on your thread, Lukeylala. I just think that you’ve brought a very very important point to light.
I think that in dealing with the opposite sex (and as a MGTOW, that is hopefully on a very minimalist to non-existent quantity), we have to continue to stay strong on individual arguments, and see them through to the end, rather than concede because we are being bombarded with multiple issues.
It may be very tiring, but it’s yet another part of self-preservation which the feminists are trying to mangle.
Go look up the Mouse Utopia experiment. Here is a Wikipedia entry connected with it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_sink
In short, we could be looking at a possible future collapse of civilization. My take on MGTOW, is it offers single men a shot at surviving the chaos that is happening now. In no way can you trust society to come up with appropriate ways to define who you are. You need to do this, or you risk going mad. Things are going to happen, and could get worse. You need to focus on you and developing strategies that will work for you, to navigate all this. You can go tradcon with this, and demand the world go back to the way it was, but I wouldn’t bank on that happening.
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