$50,000 Gaming PC: Lie, or A Major Rip Off?

For a single system that is a complete load of s~~~. Things might get expensive if you put two 3K Xeon in it and load it with drives.
http://ark.intel.com/products/family/59138/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-Family#@All
But frankly it would rather hard to spend that much on one system. If you take something an extreme maybe but for this just no.

50k for a gaming pc?that money could get you a super computer, not the nasa level but a pretty f~~~ing decent super computer

RoyDal wrote:

Whatever gaming system you get today, and no matter what you pay for it, it will be obsolete in less than two years.

If you turned back the clock to say 2008 or 2010 that statement might be true. However everything is bound by limits semiconductors are no exception. The gap between generations of microprocessors is closing, in short I don’t really think that will ever happen. Die shrinks are the only way to increase performance without massive energy consumption and heat output. Once you hit about 8nm micro processors simply do not work under those conditions. So the only option you are left with is dramatic increases in electrical consumption for minor performance improvement. That however requires the removal of massive amounts of heat making said computer completely uneconomical.
Unless of course you move beyond silicon into something really wacky and expensive.

This is a major rip off. And I wouldn’t spend more than 3k on a gaming rig.

If I had an extra $50,000 to spend on anything, it would be a new car.

RoyDal wrote:

If you have $50,000 burning a hole in your pocket, then spend it on a down payment on a prudently chosen rental real estate property.

Whatever gaming system you get today, and no matter what you pay for it, it will be obsolete in less than two years.

I agree. Or a nice fifth-wheel mobile camper and a truck to pull it, which allows you to be mobile. But, are good investments.

I’m saying lie AND ripped himself off. Unless you’re trying to turn your living room into the Holodeck from Star Trek, there’s really no reason for that much money on a home computer.

Hello ResidentEvil7, when I saw the title of this topic I thought it might be just a matter of currency conversion.
For example, when the PS3 first came out it was 599USD in the US but in my country I paid the equivalent of about 830USD for one.

Now that I’ve watched the video you linked to, and some others on that same channel I can tell you this is just a wishful kid. Before anything the like and comments are disabled on the video you linked, people only do that when they get a lot of negative feedback. Also, in his 2014 videos (like the one you linked) he hadn’t even hit puberty yet, he only got pimples on is face on his latest videos.
All and all this is just the kind kid that drives a Veyron in a video game, then brags he has a real one, notice in none of his videos he shows any actual parts, so he’s not even being sponsored by any manufacturers.
Basically what he does is look up the (widely available) information, then puts together a video as if it was his work.
Lastly notice on his channel this is his by far the most viewed video, it was just a lie to get clicks.

Now since we’re talking about PC gaming, I’ll give my opinion on the subject.

My golden rule is to get a machine around 800-1000USD, more than that you’ll get diminishing returns and it’s barely worth the money, bellow 800USD you’ll start making compromises.

Now the best thing about PC is of course the fact that you can build a machine tailored for you, just like a suit, you can make it fit perfectly for your own individual needs.

A pre-build PC is also an option, BUT, one thing I don’t like about these is stores normally put stuff in there that you don’t really need. Let me elaborate on this point.
Normally when a person wants to buy a pre-build PC without too much hassle he’ll first decide what graphics card he wants, by looking at a few games recommended specs for example.
From there he’ll look at pre-builds that have that card.
Once he finds some options on the market with the card that he wants, he might even look at the parts that are in this pre-build PC and search for the cost of the individual parts, then come to the conclusion that the price is either spot on, or just a little more which would be understandable since the company needs to pay someone to put it together.
When I’m about to build a new PC I always look these pre-builds because you never know, you might find a deal where the cost of the machine is actually less than the total cost of individual parts in it, this is specially true when stores wanna shifts units as new graphic cards come out.

The problem is, even if the price is spot on, there might be things in there that you don’t actually need and you’re still paying for them, that’s why unless these cost less than the parts value, you’re always better off building a PC yourself with hand picked parts.

I’m gonna give you the example of the computer I just built from the ground up this xmas that cost me about 860USD without a monitor.

I used a GTX 970, now on the market there wasn’t a pre-build PC with a GTX 970 with less than 16GB of RAM, i7 CPU and SSD drive, and they were all over 1400USD.
The question was, do I need that? No I didn’t, so why pay for it?
I only got 8GB of RAM on this PC because that’s all I need, after I built it I’ve measured up RAM usage and it never gets over 6GB with any game I play, and that even includes back ground programs.
The thing about RAM, and VRAM for that matter, is that you only need as much as the application wants. My system is only using 6GB tops in games so for now 8GB is enough, I wouldn’t get any extra benefit if it had 16, 32 or 64GB it just wouldn’t make a lick of difference, you only start having problems if the system wants more RAM than there is available. That’s when you upgrade.
Now the CPU, on the pre-builds I looked up not one with the GTX 970 had anything other than an i7 processor, again these are a bit unnecessary for games, you won’t see the benefit of an i7 unless you use the computer for video editing for example.
I went with a i5-6600, in comparison the i7-6700 is about 50% more expensive, but it will only be about ~5% better running a video game, like I said, so for me it wouldn’t make any sense the extra money.
Finally the SSD, I went with a good old HDD because I don’t really mind the extra loading times, I might upgrade in the near future but for now I don’t feel like I need one.

So there you have it, for ~860USD I got the PC I wanted with almost the same performance as a +1400USD pre-build, since those pre-builds included parts that don’t make too much of a difference, and even cases that light up as a xmas tree, also something I can very well do without.

This is something I’d recommend to everyone, not only you’ll get the best value for money, its also a very special feeling putting a PC together and turning it on.
For anyone that’s never done this before, you can search on the internet specialised web forums where there’s no shortage of other men ready to help you with any problem you might have, be it picking up the parts or trouble shooting in case anything goes wrong.

On a closing note, Mister Skeptisk the second reason you state for switching from desktop to laptop is because it’s “cheaper“, this isn’t very accurate.
Don’t get me wrong I love gaming laptops and I’ve over paid to be able to play anywhere I might feel like, the laptop I have right now cost me almost 2000USD in 2012 and I got it to play games.
The thing is there’s no shortage of problems with gaming laptops, starts with drivers for example. Since my post is already getting to long I’ll try to cut it short here, but, penny for penny you can build a desktop significantly more powerful than any laptop you might get for the same money. When the time comes to get rid of it, you can actually sell the desktop individual parts on the internet, most of the parts like CPU, GPU, PSU, even the mainboard and case are always in high demand on the 2nd hand market for teenagers wanting to built cheap computers.

ResidentEvil7 wrote:

I hope I don’t upset you but I had to stop reading at a certain point, because your reply was waaaaay too long. (…)

Fair enough, let me to a TL;DR:

50K PC video was a kid lying.
Pre-Build PCs might come with stuff you don’t need, but have to pay for.
Buy the individual parts to build your own computer for the very best value-for-money.