4 levels of MGTOW

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  • 2017-08-28 at 11:27 AM#581613
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    LEO THE WISE
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    Hello guys,

    LEO THE WISE here : Giving to all men their needed uprise :

    I would like to share a video I made on youtube a while ago with some tips about : The 4 levels of MGTOW, I describe them and how I view these levels.

    Thanks for the next reactions and comments about this shared info.

    Have a nice day all !!
    LEO THE WISE

    Leo the wise : Giving to all men their needed uprise My MGTOW YOUTUBE channel, first vid : https://youtu.be/Xt-tJgVUGuI

    2017-08-28 at 11:47 AM#581632

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    Good stuff!!

    2017-08-28 at 11:55 AM#581637
    LEO THE WISE
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    Thanks Johnny Zero,
    I appreciate it !!

    Do not hesitate to subscribe to my youtube channel : I deliver also several videos like this each week, on each Tuesday.

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWgtIpmVbpOfTMlkB3W3FwQ/

    Leo the wise : Giving to all men their needed uprise My MGTOW YOUTUBE channel, first vid : https://youtu.be/Xt-tJgVUGuI

    2017-08-28 at 11:57 AM#581641
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    Carnage
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    Im the top lvl of MGTOW.

    F~~~ that s~~~.

    There is no lvl here, just a bunch of dudes, doing what a bunch of dudes do, when they around a bunch of dudes. Got it dude?

    To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

    2017-08-28 at 12:00 PM#581645
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    PistolPete
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    Levels are for under ground bunkers and AD&D games. I respect your opinion Leo but I know from our Zoom sessions that trying to compartmentalize MGTOW brothers is like trying to stack marbles.

    2017-08-28 at 12:38 PM#581691
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    Gr

    2017-08-28 at 12:42 PM#581698
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    Sidecar
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    The four levels of MGTOW:

    1. Does not marry, live with women, or have children.
    2. Same as level one.
    3. Same as level two.
    4. Same as level three.

    That is all. The rest is up to you.

    2017-08-28 at 3:27 PM#581869

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    Nice work.
    I think the levels are a handy way for one to discribe them self, but I dont think it should be though of as a teir to say someone is more Mgtow than another

    Im probably at about level 3, Id like to go level 4 but I dont hunt or fish.

    Im stuck at the f~~~ing Kroger with the land whales!

    2017-08-28 at 4:19 PM#581932
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    OldBill
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    There are no levels in MGTOW. None. Nada. Zip. Zilch.

    Every MGHOW is on a individual journey because ever man is an individual.

    Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

    2017-08-28 at 6:03 PM#581993
    Joe Rider
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    OldBill wrote:

    Every MGHOW is on a individual journey because ever man is an individual.

    I couldn’t agree more!

    Motorcycles saved my life (tried to take it a time or to as well).

    2017-08-29 at 1:28 AM#582197
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    Level Onoda AKA ‘warrior hermit’

    ULTIMATE MGTOW

    2017-08-29 at 1:33 AM#582200
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    I would echo Bill and Pete. There are no levels. People just living their life as they choose. Are there commonalities? Sure. But much of that commonality comes from information sharing. The roads may intersect at times, but the destination is different for everyone.

    2017-08-29 at 3:17 AM#582232
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    I wouldn’t mind if we got badges, patches or different colour belts like karate.

    2017-09-03 at 1:52 PM#587824
    LEO THE WISE
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    Ok folks,

    I understand your point of view but I still consider that MGTOW’s are not under a hierachy but that levels exist like going deeper and deeper.

    Even if we can nearly all agree that MGTOW is basically rejecting marriage, I stay on my ground concerning this opinion.

    From having casual relationships, to rejecting society as a whole. Men wander from stages to stages but cannot switch directly from level 1 to level 4 some stay in level 1 or go in and out in between 2 to 3 levels depending of life change but so far It seems to me very strange from a man secluded from society due to a burned life and a crashing divorce rape to come back and go for funny casual relationships as a purple pill folk or something :
    It would be like the guy have not learned much …
    The guy should be “jaded” by all this crap and just give up, he had his good and bad times, no need to start again the worst.

    I may be too pessimistic but that’s how I see those things.

    Leo the wise : Giving to all men their needed uprise My MGTOW YOUTUBE channel, first vid : https://youtu.be/Xt-tJgVUGuI

    2017-09-03 at 1:59 PM#587833
    IRuleMe
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    LEO THE WISE wrote:

    Ok folks,

    I understand your point of view but I still consider that MGTOW’s are not under a hierachy but that levels exist like going deeper and deeper.

    Even if we can nearly all agree that MGTOW is basically rejecting marriage, I stay on my ground concerning this opinion.

    From having casual relationships, to rejecting society as a whole. Men wander from stages to stages but cannot switch directly from level 1 to level 4 some stay in level 1 or go in and out in between 2 to 3 levels depending of life change but so far It seems to me very strange from a man secluded from society due to a burned life and a crashing divorce rape to come back and go for funny casual relationships as a purple pill folk or something :
    It would be like the guy have not learned much …
    The guy should be “jaded” by all this crap and just give up, he had his good and bad times, no need to start again the worst.

    I may be too pessimistic but that’s how I see those things.

    There can’t be levels if you’re going your OWN WAY.

    2017-09-03 at 2:03 PM#587840
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    why would i want to listen to some rules about levels and s~~~.

    I identify with parts of the mgtow philosophy but will i now turn off my brain and start listening to instructions, manuals, lists and similar ? No.

    The choices we make, not the chances we take, determine our destiny

    2017-09-03 at 2:16 PM#587854
    LEO THE WISE
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    There are no manuals who said that one level is better than another or that there is a specific level to reach…
    It just makes “sense” to go from one level to the next naturally.

    Some men start at level 3 some at level 2 and stay there forever.
    They explore other areas and passions of their lives that have neutral or no impact on their MGTOW way.

    Some seek to amplify their current way.

    These are not rules, these are visible pattern of men based on how they lived their lives.

    After being burned and divorced once, twice, some men still try to get married : Is that sound, does not make any sense at all…

    These “levels” are nothing more that one of the ways to be a MGTOW.

    We started learning the alphabet, then numbers, now we have PHD’s in physics…
    Would that make any sense to go back to learning the alphabet if you want to learn psychology or biology ? No… You already know some stuff .

    Life is a learning process and MGTOW abides to this “process” somehow.

    As going back making the same mistakes you did when you were young sounds foolish or insane nowadays. That’s what we call wisdom, or sometimes life experience, now you know better and avoid, change, evolve on some positions and points of view you had in the past.

    Each man going his own way that’s fine that’s how it should be but that does not mean that

    These levels are just a way to represent a path of analysis and logical reasoning from one stage to the other.

    Being tolerant to women, dating them up to rejecting women completely, avoiding invading government… The gap is huge but small incrementations led to this big variation in the end.

    Leo the wise : Giving to all men their needed uprise My MGTOW YOUTUBE channel, first vid : https://youtu.be/Xt-tJgVUGuI

    2017-09-06 at 6:17 PM#591053
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    IRuleMe
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    There are no “levels” dude. Can you not grasp that? There is only MEN GOING THEIR OWN WAY. Their OWN way. You cannot postulate levels of something when people do what they want. That’s basically saying there’s levels of independence. No, there is only independence.

    2017-09-06 at 6:23 PM#591057
    OldBill
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    LEO THE WISE wrote:

    These levels are just a way to represent a path of analysis and logical reasoning from one stage to the other.

    No, absolutely not.

    These “levels” are nothing more than compartmentalized thinking on your part. You can’t think outside the box, you can’t even imagine being outside the box, so you place everything in it’s own box.

    The boundaries you see are nothing but an illusion, the labels you create are based on that illusion, and your attempt to sort all men according to those boundaries is an insult.

    Go your own way. Walk your own path. Encourage others to do the same.

    Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

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