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aniyishay 4 years, 10 months ago.
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Hello Gentlemen,
I have been married for a bit over 3 years. I would never get married again.
These are my observations, the may not be true in every circumstance they are to me.
– Nagging will slowly kill a man. It often seems to be about keeping something “tidy”. My woman enjoys moving everything I have to various locations so they are out of sight. So I spend a good amount of time looking for tools or batteries. If I ask, sometimes she doesn’t remember where they are! Then I get nagged about a little bit of cake left on a baby toy for 5 minutes. My gosh, it turned into a circus of emotion not related to the cake at all!
– Having a baby. Why is the world would I want to have another child with this woman when the pregnancy was total hell for me and her? It was the worst 9 months of my life, I have never been treated so bad and insanely. I know this differs among women, but my wife’s pregnancy made me never want a child again. I could write a book about this nightmare, but I’ll stop there. She is a wonderful mother by the way.
– I have never yelled or raised my voice at my wife until about a month ago. I do believe it’s a miracle I’ve stayed calm for so long, but she reads my face so much and assumes something, and often creates a problem out of nothing based on something silly.
– I do not enjoy these family gatherings and get together’s. I am exhausted trying to be social with everyone. I try to pass on them as much as possible without causing a wife breakdown. I do the Holiday ones just to keep the peace.
– An emotional woman doesn’t know what is wrong with her, you have to play Clue with her to figure out her emotions. This can last hours. By the time you figure out everything is somehow your fault it’s quite depressing, but Hey, at least they feel better.
– You lose all of your freedom. You can’t do much without her, or it will be a competition of who you spend more time with (Guy friends). And you lose most of your free time.
This is just touching the surface, I don’t want to get into all of it because it’s starting to make me angry thinking about it!
I think it’s just one big mess that does NOT benefit the man in any way.Thanks for standing up for men. I see the hypocrisy of feminism in many arena’s and it’s absolutely disgusting.
Sounds like my ex, same craziness. She went off on how I was pouring dirt out of a bag wrong one day, s~~~ you not. I had the same feelings, no way I would have another kid with her. Eventually, after 10 miserable years, she was “not happy anymore” and had to bolt. I now have custody of my daughter and it’s been calm for seven years, with some bouts of craziness. I sat down with her one afternoon and tried to reason with her, asked why she got so upset over stupid mealiness things. A blank stare was what I got in return. Did the behavior change — no. Walking on egg shells, crazy knows no bounds. I’m not sure how to fix it, maybe someone has an idea. It only ended when she left.
Gentlemen, such is the nature of the beast. There is no cure for their affliction. Their brains aren’t f~~~ing wired correctly. The only solution is to avoid marriage and avoid having children. Then you can enjoy your money and your life in peace.
I wish the government would legalize prostitution. That would send the value of their little pot ‘o gold plummeting! Plus there would be no incentive for marriage…not that there is for a man anyway.
HISTORY...learn from it, memorize it, DON'T repeat it...Ho ho ho man… that is a MASSIVE truth nugget made of 24K gold.
Nagging will slowly kill a man
Interesting that’s the first thing you said. I can’t take it. It is the number one f~~~ing thing I can’t stand when dealing with women.
“Do you know what time it is? Do you know what time it is? Do you know what time it is? Do you know what time it is? Do you know what time it is? Do you know what time it is? Do you know what time it is? Do you know what time it is? Do you know what time it is? Do you know what time it is? Do you know what time it is? Do you know what time it is? Do you know what time it is? Do you know what time it is? Do you know what time it is?……”
“Yeah. I do. It’s Keymaster time. So SHUT. THE F~~~. UP.”
That was an actual conversation that took place with a female who was nagging me to hurry up on our way somewhere. Its enough to drive a man to drink. Women are goddam EXPERTS at this. Of course “expert” is the wrong word, because that would imply she has a skill of some kind. They are not “experts” at nagging, because they do it instinctively. The women I have known were not even AWARE they are doing. It had to be pointed out to them. Repeatedly.
Once or twice, I have actually calmly pulled the car over… and without saying anything, reached across her t~~~ to PUSH the door open from the inside:
GET. OUT.
…. and the look on her face is like “what???”.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Fedup,
I feel for you. Many of us do, as many of us have been where you are. At three years, you’ve made it 50% longer than I did. I’ll salute you for that. I can’t offer you much advice on what to do. Everyone in your situation has slightly different set of circumstances and for some, the cost of the exit is even worse than the cost of remaining.On the premise that you are remaining, at least for now, I can offer you some things that got me some limited success in trying to interact with girlfriends and a spouse. There are no guarantees, but if they don’t work, I will not have charged you anything either.
I had a girlfriend who was obsessive compulsive and nagged me about tidying up all kinds of crap, in my own house, where she visited, but did not live. I watched her and realized that she didn’t realize how much she did it. I also noticed that in situations where she had reason for anxiety (big party at my house where there were many of my family members she’d never met before), she tended to do it more. This is classic symptom of obsessive compulsive personalities that do this as a means to manage anxiety.
At one point in the party, I waved her over to where I was and leaned in as though I was going to tell her a secret. She leaned in and I gave her big hug while whispering in her ear, “In the last half hour, you’ve criticized me for not using coaster, not dropping empty can in recycle bin instead of regular trash can, and about the amount of soap I put in dishwasher before starting it. Can that be the last thing you criticize me for today? I need a break from it at least until tomorrow…”. She was stunned as she hadn’t even realized she was doing it. She didn’t like being told that, but I was soft spoken, polite and private about it so she couldn’t take it as confrontational and react by escalating. It helped for a while, but with OCD personalities, once that anxiety is there, the behavior is coming out one way or another.
On trying to get her to tell you what’s wrong when she’s in s~~~ty mood and says she’s “Fine”. I once explained that if something was bothering her, or there was something she needed, she could ask me for it and have a reasonable chance of getting it… but that the odds of her getting it from me were a lot lower if what she wanted was a f~~~ing secret…
Even while swearing, I was soft spoken and polite and smiled when I said it. Smiling makes the statement a kind of trojan horse that has a chance of getting past the walls to sneak a little logic into what might otherwise be an impenetrable mindset. It’s important not to get emotional, because if you do, they will take it as a challenge to an emotional contest and almost always respond by escalating to ‘out-emotional’ you. She has the advantage of estrogen. It’s no contest. Try not to start down this road.
Think of it as dealing with the mind of a bratty little kid of say 5 or 6 years old, but in an adult body. A tantrum is waiting just under the surface, but you are not allowed to turn them over and spank their ass for screwed up behavior. They’re moody but can’t communicate why. They’re demanding but can’t communicate specifically for what. You have to be the adult in the equation. Expecting them to behave like an adult sets yourself up for disappointment. The only men I’ve known to stay successfully (albeit not necessarily happily) married for many years all approached their wives this way…like children.
She is not an adult partner. She is a petulant child that you have adopted, that looks like an adult, but can’t be expected to think, communicate or act like one. Sounds like bulls~~~?
Remember when you got married…probably in a church…with a bunch of people watching…where at some point, her father walked her down the isle an ‘handed her off’ to you.
You thought that was just symbolic, right? 😛
That’s it buddy. That’s all I got for you and I’ll admit it wasn’t enough for me to stay married. Just do the best you can with what you got…
I realize I’m giving spit b~~~~ to a man on his way to a gunfight, but it’s all I got for you.Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you
Hi FedUp! Welcome!
Yeah, Nagging. We have all been there, we have done some ourselves – but men typically nag about being nagged.
(You won’t win, it makes it worse btw)
Women are gatherers and sorters and organisers. This goes back a long way with humankind. When a woman cohabits with you, this behaviour does not go away, it actually gets worse. Because now she is sorting and organising your possessions as well. And then she will start organising you. Which drives the average male up the f~~~ing wall into an early grave, or to the bottle or just wear him down so much he just goes along with it and turns into a pitiful automaton. I seriously think that it one of the reasons we men love cars and motorcycles so much. It allows them to get away from it for a while.
Gathering nuts and berries for the tribe is long gone. Now we have the shopping mall and appliances. So now they have so much more free time, while you are still at work bringing in the catch (money). But the need to sort and organise is still their in their psyche, it hasn’t gone away. The nuts and berries have become things for the house, more appliances, cushions, furnishings, more more more.. whats that? not keeping up? Maybe you need to work harder and get a better paying job then eh? And all this stuff in your house needs to be organised and in place too remember!
She still not happy? Well f~~~ it she can just divorce your sorry ass FOR NO REASON and try and trade up to guy with more cash.
And take half your stuff. Or more. It’s a rigged game. How do you win a rigged game? Don’t play. Go your own way man!
Good luck to you.
Thanks for these posts, I’m just glad there are other guys that get it.
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