19th Century Phillosophers knew damn well what female nature was about

[The_Mad_PirateParticipant 1278]

Found this little interesting book by John Knox:
First blast of the trumpet against the monstrous regiment of women
It basically denounces how and why women in positions of power wage war and shed blood in an impressive way.

For they oght to be constant,
stable, prudent and doing euerie thing with discretion and reason, whiche vertues women can nut haue in equalitie with men. For that he doth witnesse in an other place, sayins :women haue inthem selues a tickling and studie of vaine glorie,and that they may haue comtnon with men :they are sode in lie moued to anger, and that they hale also common with some men But vertues in which they excell, they haue not common with man, and therfore hath the apostle.
remoued them from the office of teachinge, which is
an euident proof that in vertue they farre differ frome man.

"We didn't start the fire. It was always burning. Since the world's been turning" "A world that vilifies men only breeds a generation of men that feel no empathy towards women" “In a woman’s mind , there is really no such thing as a ‘we’. In her eyes, earth allways revolves around her, not the other way around. So thinking that your needs , aspirations or desires are valid enough to be persued, or even that you are entitled achive such goals, is like asking your boss for a pay rise in your very first day at the job.”

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

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Do you a have a link to a version that doesn’t? I don’t sign up for unknown sites for unknown content without knowing what I’m getting into.

"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

[The_Mad_PirateParticipant 1278]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3rxDmbbN–nQ1N0ZDBpSnc5bzg/view?usp=sharing

"We didn't start the fire. It was always burning. Since the world's been turning" "A world that vilifies men only breeds a generation of men that feel no empathy towards women" “In a woman’s mind , there is really no such thing as a ‘we’. In her eyes, earth allways revolves around her, not the other way around. So thinking that your needs , aspirations or desires are valid enough to be persued, or even that you are entitled achive such goals, is like asking your boss for a pay rise in your very first day at the job.”

[Anonymous 3]

Until about 50 years ago, pretty much all men understood women. The writings go back thousands of years.

Women don’t want you to use that wisdom, so they just started screaming MISOGYNY! PATRIARCHY! and insisted all men were evil jerks that lived only to abuse women and twirl their mustaches. By doing that, they figured men would not learn from history.

Yet all through history, every society treated women better than their men, and made women’s lives as easy and comfortable as they possibly could. Only men that refuse to read history are incapable of understanding this. Men that refuse to open their eyes and see reality as it is, but will instead listen to the propaganda that liberals/feminists always pump out.

Women’s nature has not changed, ever. It’s the same as it’s always been. Only the State changed. This happens in the decline phase of every civilization.

[The_Mad_PirateParticipant 1278]

Anonymous wrote:

Yet all through history, every society treated women better than their men, and made women’s lives as easy and comfortable as they possibly could. Only men that refuse to read history are incapable of understanding this. Men that refuse to open their eyes and see reality as it is, but will instead listen to the propaganda that liberals/feminists always pump out.

I think a very good case in favor of that hypothesis is the fall of the roman empire. That little bit of fact has been several times been trated on this forum, mostly related on how men refused to get marriage and have children towards the end of the roman empire.

EDIT : A good article on the subject

"We didn't start the fire. It was always burning. Since the world's been turning" "A world that vilifies men only breeds a generation of men that feel no empathy towards women" “In a woman’s mind , there is really no such thing as a ‘we’. In her eyes, earth allways revolves around her, not the other way around. So thinking that your needs , aspirations or desires are valid enough to be persued, or even that you are entitled achive such goals, is like asking your boss for a pay rise in your very first day at the job.”

[Anonymous 3]

The_Mad_Pirate wrote:

phoenix wrote:

Yet all through history, every society treated women better than their men, and made women’s lives as easy and comfortable as they possibly could. Only men that refuse to read history are incapable of understanding this. Men that refuse to open their eyes and see reality as it is, but will instead listen to the propaganda that liberals/feminists always pump out.

I think a very good case in favor of that hypothesis is the fall of the roman empire. That little bit of fact has been several times been trated on this forum, mostly related on how men refused to get marriage and have children towards the end of the roman empire.

EDIT : A good article on the subject

Not just Rome, all the great empires we know of the past 6000 years of recorded history were the same.

You should read John Glubb’s “The Rise and Fall of Empires” I believe was the title. Easy to find, it’s like a 20 page essay or so.

The funniest part to me was reading the fall of the Islamic/Ottoman Empire. You would think they’d be the last to fall like that right? Oppressive to women and all that nonsense. Nope, same crap, musicians going to the big cities and singing about sex and materialism, women taking on high level positions in the workforce, and then the decline. So it just happens, it’s a cycle.

I see Islam likely rising again because they went through their fall and are ready for the rise part, whereas the West was on a different cycle and had their fall then rose with Islam’s fall. People think Muslims are 500 years behind in the cycle, but you could look at it as them being 500 years ahead of schedule right now. Well the numbers are closer to 250 years, which is about the length of time an empire seems to last, at least each phase of an empire (some lasted longer by reinventing themselves, such as Rome going from republic to emperors etc.).

[Silverstone the SecondParticipant]

Just goes to show you that women have always been this way. They weren’t some innocent perfect unicorns some 50 years ago, they’ve been like this for thousands of years. Look back into some ancient philosophy discussing women and you’ll see. Women have always been s~~~ty.

Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

[Anonymous 24]

Anonymous wrote:

Women’s nature has not changed, ever. It’s the same as it’s always been. Only the State changed. This happens in the decline phase of every civilization.

Spot on. I have been trying to get many here to realize the rise of feminism coincides with those who influence the State. It is no surprise that-

Once women were able to vote Prohibition happened and Prostitution became illegal for the most part. The State became more powerful. Jails built, taxes collected, more police needed, the State grew…

In 71 Nixon detached gold from the dollar to print money endlessly to wage war, even till today with never-ending wars…And back then we were told it was going to be temporary… About the same time the media/Hollywood began pushing the current wave of Feminism we are in now because they knew with the rampant printing the dollar would be devalued (inflation) and with no intention of wages keeping up with the rate of inflation the everyman would no longer be able to raise a family with his wages alone, so they had to make women think it was their idea to work. Feminism was pushed hard by the Jewish left controlled media around this time, and even more so now. Not a coincidence that the “Federal” Reserve chairman is always Jewish. Also not a coincidence that Israel and Jewish influence over all things in the U.S. is way out of proportion with their two percent population. Also not a coincidence as to who owns most media and dominates Hollywood.

Fascism has been rising for quite some time now. The Ponzi scheme of the “Federal” Reserve is so protected that our country will invade and destroy others to keep the racket going. Gaddafi wanted to create a gold backed currency and stop taking Federal Reserve notes for his oil. This would have undermined the Federal Reserve note as petro-dollar and world reserve currency. U.S./Israel could not stand for that so they backed some fundamentalist rebels (sound familiar?) and destroyed Libya without Congressional approval. The country is in complete chaos now. Three thousand people have died in the ocean just trying to flee the mess, and uncountable thousands more from in-fighting in a once stable country.

U.S. has gone rogue with Israel as it’s puppet master.

Phoenix is right, the decline is real. And the State will continue to play the masses against each other so that they cannot all turn on the State at once. Anything to keep it’s power/Ponzi scheme going for as long as it can at any price.

You can all chose to keep reacting to what is before you, and play right into the hands of the State, that being their intention to divide and conquer, or you can dig deeper and understand what is going on…

The State and those who influence it use women as a tool as they are more easily lead and coerced and feared into things than men are. The State grows through war and Fascism disguised as Socialism and protection of “Freedom” is the enemy of the people, and even a bigger enemy of those we invade and kill endlessly who did us no harm.

[xlrsnbrgParticipant 1786]

The_Mad_Pirate wrote:

I think a very good case in favor of that hypothesis is the fall of the roman empire. That little bit of fact has been several times been trated on this forum, mostly related on how men refused to get marriage and have children towards the end of the roman empire.

EDIT : A good article on the subject

Actually that article offers a rather superficial analysis. Correlation does not imply causation. So many things were wrong with Rome, it is difficult to say which was the deciding factor. Let’s keep in mind Rome almost collapsed twice during the times they were a patriarchal society. It is possible, IMHO likely, that feminism is mostly a symptom of deeper problems in the society and not the underlying cause. Although I agree that it makes things worse, accelerating the collapse. We could say it is the last straw.

A man shouldn't make his life's objective to be on the side of the majority, but to avoid finding himself in the ranks of the insane. (Marcus Aurelius)

[OldBillParticipant]

19th Century? Try 16th Century instead.

And your “understanding” of the context behind Knox’s polemic is about as accurate as your date for it.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Anonymous 11]

Rome was a cluster of dysfunction beyond words. Just their monetary debasement experiments should send a loud clear warning to the future.

Feminism does coincide with the rise of statism. Big massa thug guvmint appeals to a female’s primal instincts. Guvmint is the ultimate sugar daddy and bad boy combined. Women flock to government like roaches to a filthy kitchen. The politicians know this affinity of women towards big government so they fund and codify just for women.

Women are very child like in how they handle anything no matter what their education level or station in life happens to be. The cultural governors have been removed and look at the mess.

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