10 Year Field Report

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  • #250108
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    Byron
    Byron
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    Hey guys, check out what I stumbled on:

    SOURCE:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/4mr2fd/10_year_field_reportlearn_from_my_mistakes_learn/

    Words are not enough to describe it I feel.


    TL:DR Don’t Ever Get Married. Learn from my mistakes. I implore you. I’m not perfect, but i tried to be the best husband and father that I could. If you can be bothered to read this, it will show you what can happen when a woman, even your wife…mother of your kids, decides you are no longer needed

    I met my wife when we were neighbours back in 2005. I was 24…she was 32. I was a total Blue Pill Motherf~~~er.
    We moved in after 6 months of dating, and life was good. We both had very well paying, stable jobs…although we were renting we were comfortable enough to rent a 3-bedroom house in an inner city suburb.

    There were warning signs that now, looking back on I should have been able to recognize and jump ship straight away. Things like: Her family never really warmed to me.

    She never wanted to go to visit my family (2-hour drive from us) and if she did, there was always a fight (initiated by her) either before, or during the trip to their place…which would cause extreme tension with all of us.

    It was expected that we would spend the majority of our Christmas and Easter holidays at her families’ place (10+ hour drive away) whilst only spending at most a day (more often a few hours) celebrating with my family.
    She was never comfortable when it came to socializing with my group of friends…. but It was expected that I would with hers. (weekends away with her friends, dinners etc. etc. etc.)

    I (Stupidly)ended up proposing in 2010, and we got married 2011.l..soon we were expecting our first child.
    I was shocked that before she went into labour she made me promise her that I wouldn’t tell my parents when she went into labour as she didn’t want them coming down to the hospital. (Another massive warning)
    Our daughter was born in 2012 and I was relishing being a father.

    Bearing in mind that she was on maternity leave and this cut her pay from 150K+ down to almost nothing.
    As a result, I was working my ass off to provide for my family. Not just in my job…but at home as well.
    I would cook dinner for all of us at 6 in the morning while I was getting her breakfast and lunch ready…then go to work at 7….work till 7… come home…change nappies, give bottles, baths, prepare food … rinse…repeat.

    I came home one day (when our daughter was a month old) to find her with her bags packed saying she was “going to her parents place (10+ hours away) for a month as I wasn’t helping enough”. I was floored…I said to her that I was doing everything that I could…. but to her it wasn’t enough….so she went with our daughter for a month to her parents. I didn’t see my family for a month.

    When she came back things became progressively worse.

    There was constant criticism over everything that I did…from not cooking her the right vegetarian meals, to her complaining that she didn’t want to eat last night’s leftovers for lunch the next day (Yet I was still cooking…every morning at 6.)….

    Saying she didn’t want my parents coming to visit as they encroached on her space ( yet she expected them to drive 2 hours each way every Monday to look after our daughter so she could have time out…
    It was simply that she didn’t want them around HER.

    My friends would cook us meals as they knew I was struggling and even though it was an amazing gesture and I was so grateful…my STBX would say to me when my friends weren’t around that “the food tasted like crap” etc. etc.…

    It got to the stage where I was finding not just the meals, but the meals, untouched in the Tupperware in the bin. I confronted her about this and was ripped to shreds…

    I blue-pilled myself even deeper….and accepted her alienating my family…and friends as part of what just happens during marriage.

    All the meanwhile threatening to take our daughter and leave me if I didn’t do this and that.
    I went without any form of intimacy from her for 12 months…when our daughter turned one I brought it up that we hadn’t had sex in a year…I asked if there was something wrong…She said that she had lost her libido.
    Again, I just accepted this and whilst I tried to initiate any form of intimacy (hugs, kisses, cuddles on the couch) I was always given the standard run of the mill excuses (headache, tired, sore etc.).

    She was quite happy to take massages, foot rubs, etc. but would always roll her eyes when I offered and say “you’re just doing that to get sex”

    A couple of years passed with this steady stream of me being blue-pill as f~~~ and her manipulating me, alienating my family and friends and treating me like a doormat.

    My wife would have 3-4 nights a week when she would be out for various reasons.

    I had finished getting our daughter ready (as i did every night, which included the standard of being dropped at, and picked up from daycare, fed, bathed, stories read, songs sung and in bed) when she came home a little drunk, nothing too overt…but she for the first time in almost 2 years initiated sex with me. She almost seemed relieved that I accepted her advances (Massive warning sign)

    9 months later, our son was born. That is when my life was literally destroyed.

    Her behavior got worse, I suspected Post Natal Depression…and gently tried to suggest this to her…she flipped out and said that she had been seeing a psychologist for months because of ME…and that I was to blame for all of her problems..

    I spoke to my friends, family and they agreed with me, that something was wrong with her.
    I have never been concerned for the welfare of my children with their mother. Let me make that quite clear.
    I found Facebook messages to her ex before me (10 years ago) saying that she was going to take our children and introduce them to him (he is a divorcee with a son, who runs an investment banking firm…. flash cars, big houses etc.).

    Whilst these messages weren’t incriminating or eluding to her cheating on me, I was offended that she would want to introduce our kids to firstly an ex of over 10 years.
    As usual, I was the asshole and stalker for bringing this up and it was none of my business who she took our kids to see.
    She said that things to me after our son was born (during arguments) like:
    At least I enjoyed f~~~ing my ex
    You’re just a deadbeat dad
    Marrying you was the biggest mistake of my life
    Why are you such a Loser
    You’re just a c~~~, like your father.

    I’m going to put measures in place so that you never go hunting again *(she knew that outdoors and hunting were a true love of mine and I had been doing it for 25 years – only going once a year in Winter)

    I’m going to make sure your son has nothing to do with you so he can grow up to be nothing like you.

    On multiple occasions I was phyiscally assaulted by her. Once before our son was born, she said to me while I was driving the car on a road trip:

    If you speak like your father does ever again, ill f~~~ing stab you

    Some times that are burnt in my mind are: – She kicked me in the groin from behind while I was sorting out the Tupperware container, – She even said when I went on my annual hunting trip with my one friend “I hope you get f~~~ing shot in the head” – this was heard by my best friend – She hit me over the back of the head with a nappy bin while I was sitting down in the lounge room for no other reason than she was “disgusted by the sight of me”

    Not once did I ever react. I’m a pacifist and have never even been in a fight…ever (I’m 34 now)
    Here is where it when nuclear.

    Our kids were asleep and I asked her if I could go downstairs and clean and polish the car as it hadn’t been done in a while…an argument ensued about me not spending enough quality time with her. I brought up the fact that she never shows me any intimacy or love anymore.

    She went to punch me in the face with a closed fist, I grabbed her wrist and asked her why she was behaving like this and what the hell was going on. I let go of her wrist and she went to hit me again, so I grabbed her wrist and said “don’t hit me”.

    I let her go…again. She immediately took her phone out and took a photo of the ‘hypercolour’ effect that your skin has when there has been pressure applied.

    A massive alarm went off in the back of my mind…why the hell would she do this???
    Over the next month she kept demanding that I leave our home, our home which I renovated, and we bought together…

    I told her I wasn’t leaving and that we needed to fix this.

    I finally decided that this toxicity in the relationship was killing me…and my kids…. and agreed we needed to separate. I was destroyed…ashamed that my marriage had failed…and didnt know what more i could have done.

    So I agreed to mediation for separation of assets, child custody arrangements would come later.
    I was also to move out within 28 days of the mediation, she would pay me an agreed amount 6 months’ time.
    (Another massive no no)

    I later found out that my wife had been having meetings with the mediator and her lawyer prior to this to formulate a plan to f~~~ me like a chook – and f~~~ me like a chook she did.

    About 1030 at night I was working late (my career dictated that I had to do some work outside of hours) ….I got a phone call from a private number, normally I don’t answer and let It go to voicemail but I thought it may have been a client so I answered.

    “Hello?”
    “Hello, is that UrbanBanger?”
    “May I ask who is calling?”
    “Yes, its Officer Chad from Thunderc~~~ Police Station here”
    “What can I do for you Officer Chad?”
    “We need you to come to the police station”
    “What for?”
    “I can’t tell you that, you just need to come to the station”
    “I’m not attending a police station unless I know what it is for….?” (this went back and forth for a few minutes)
    “We need to serve you with an Apprehended Violence Order”
    “What for??? What Have I done????”
    “We will explain that to you when you get here”

    I left work and went straight home…I told my wife what had just happened, she denied knowing anything about it and said that she didn’t know what the hell I was talking about.

    I attended the police station…was served with an AVO.

    I told them that I had spoken to my wife prior to coming to the police station and she knew had told me she knew nothing about it…. the police office scoffed at me, laughed and told me that If lied again, and tried to manipulate the situation that they would charge me with perverting the course of justice.
    They also told me that they had seen the photos of the ‘bruises on her wrists’ (remember when she went to hit me and I grabbed her???) and that If my wife complained about me in any way, saying that I either intimidated, stalked, harassed or made her feel uncomfortable that they would arrest, charge and thrown me in jail.
    They then accompanied me to my house, took my guns, ammunition, hunting bows etc.…then left.
    I went back upstairs (330 am)…..absolutely floored and in complete shock.

    My wife came out and asked what had happened. I told her…and again she denied any knowledge of it….

    I then went to work at 6am and made some calls. I received solid advice that whilst I didn’t want to, that I had to move out of the house straight away as she could make up any s~~~ about me and I would be nailed to the wall.

    I called my closest friend and told him what happened. He said I could stay with him as long as need be.
    That day at midday I left work early to go home and get a bag of clothes. I called the police and explained to them the situation and that I wanted a police witness at the house to ensure there was no breach of the AVO. They complied and met me at my house.

    I went upstairs with them and found that the locks had already been changed…and her parents who live 10/11 hours’ drive away, or a 3 hour flight and 4 hour drive…were in my house (conveniently timed???).
    Over the next 4 months I gathered statements to help my case, evidence to show that she had assaulted and abused me (emotionally and physically) and managed to get the AVO quashed completely

    I got my guns back and by this stage had moved all of my clothes and stuff from the garage to my friends’ place.

    She still lived in the house that was full of all of our stuff, and refused to even let me take as much as a coffee mug until I signed the separation agreement which by this stage had been formalised by her lawyer and delivered to me. She wouldnt even let me see my kids.
    Thank god I refused to sign that agreement – If had signed it…I would have ended up with nothing .
    I told her that I wasn’t signing it until my lawyer had reviewed it. She went mental….like nothing that I had ever seen before.
    My ex-communication from my family was preplanned, pre meditated and executed with the help of her friends and family.

    My lawyer went through all of our financials, everything. They found that even with her being the primary carer, and the bulls~~~ AVO… I am entitled to a lot more than was in the agreement
    They are in the process of providing a letter of intent to my wife at the moment. She either accepts it and gives me what is in the letter…or we go to court and that will take years.
    Something I don’t want.

    There is a lot more that went on that I can’t be f~~~ed adding here as its either irrelevant, or hurts too much to even type it out.

    On the plus side…i was introduced to TRP the day that I was served with the AVO.
    I only wish that I had found it before I had met my STBX wife.

    In the last 6 months I have begun lifting, and gone from 88kgs to 100kgs (I am 6ft5) I am storming the trenches… 😉 I am spending a lot of time taking photos, which is theraputic for me, also hunting and rekindling friendships that I had nearly lost due to my alienation of them in my marriage. And fighting tooth and nail to spend time with my kids.

    #250111
    +7
    Ronin De Niro
    Ronin De Niro
    Participant
    200

    …but I thought you just had to “game” your partner!

    Also, congratulations for gaining 2 kg per month because lifting. Would like to know what will be his name when joining X-Men.

    #250112
    +6
    Enjoy The Decline
    Enjoy The Decline
    Participant
    1719

    What great character for him to survive all that and still have the focus to gain lots of muscle in the end. If it were me, I would probably cave in.

    "Question everything" - Albert Einstein

    #250114
    +11
    Sidecar
    sidecar
    Participant
    35837

    The worst thing about this whole sad story is that it’s absolutely typical. I mean at every sentence of his story I knew exactly what was coming in the next sentence.

    Who else would like to take this account and shove it down the throats of those sanctimonious judas goat assholes over at prager so-called university?

    F~~~ marriage. F~~~ every single last thing about it.

    #250134
    +4
    Wally
    Wally
    Participant

    That’s such a sad story, glad he made it through.

    "what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

    #250205
    +8

    The worst thing about this whole sad story is that it’s absolutely typical. I mean at every sentence of his story I knew exactly what was coming in the next sentence.

    Exactly. ^^^^^^

    One of my most valued benefits of MGTOW is the predictability gained when dealing with women. It’s almost like being able to read the future.

    When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

    #250404
    +9
    GreekDragoon
    GreekDragoon
    Participant
    460

    The worse thing of all about this story is that it shows the in-depth pre-planning, preparation and multi year execution by the female in question in order to divorce rape her chosen victim. I cannot believe that she didn’t plan this from day 1 and I believe that at least 1 of their two children is not his to begin with.

    The blue pill is a death sentence.

    #250460
    +3

    Anonymous
    3

    This story is probably BS. That site is a PUA site, they run fast and very loose with the truth.

    As someone else pointed out for ROK, they write things not for men but for women, to create outrage. That piece is designed also clearly to promote outrage, and it’s a little too ridiculous. Most people when telling their story like to paint themselves as the good guy and make the other side evil monsters. Real life it’s rarely true that would happen.

    Haha the most obvious part is probably at the end where he states he’s 6’5 and he lifts. LOL. If you buy this, I have a bridge to sell you.

    #250554
    +3
    Faxmodem
    Faxmodem
    Participant
    1415

    A guy I know married a Christian women and she left him 6 months after the wedding (all she wanted was the wedding nothing else), the best thing is that her dad did the ceremony in the church with all the bishops and there family’s. Nice guy, But lucky she left him too soon, so she got nothing.

    Best part is that she screwed over her Christian religion right in front of her dad and all the church staff in a church. Now on record she is divorced and cant get married in a church. From what I hear the church is pretty p~~~ed off at her and embarrassed her dad.

    Us men didn't start the battle of the sexes, but we're clearly going to win it via the simple tactic of just leaving the battlefield in contempt."

    #250576
    +6
    Sidecar
    sidecar
    Participant
    35837

    This story is probably BS.

    Yeah, well, that’s just your (baseless) opinion, man.

    That site is a PUA site, they run fast and very loose with the truth.

    What of it? Just because this might be coming out of a “PUA site” and a reddit doesn’t men men don’t get f~~~ed over exactly like this every single day. And if it is a “PUA site”, then what the f~~~ does this have to do with “picking up” women? And what interest would a reddit contributor have in posting clickbait?

    I personally know of more than a dozen men who got f~~~ed over with almost the exact same script. Given the many many similarities to what I have personally seen, I am inclined to believe this story, because honestly, you really can’t make this s~~~ up. Some of it you need to see happen before you can believe it. And then you see it again and again and again. What you read here is standard operating procedure for women getting divorces, and if divorce attorneys were honest about things, they’d admit to schooling their female clients in following this exact script.

    Haha the most obvious part is probably at the end where he states he’s 6’5 and he lifts. LOL. If you buy this, I have a bridge to sell you.

    So what are you having trouble believing here? That some men are 6’5″? Or that some men lift? Or that some 6’5″ men lift? Do you realize how far you’re stretching here?

    #250600
    +6
    Shiny
    Shiny
    Participant
    2307

    I’m normally very cynical about stories that are too good (or too horrifying) to be true but this one does ring true. And while I have never been reamed like this (in my blue pill days I was the sort of sucker who would provide everything without the girl having to commit to me) I recognise a lot of what he says from my own experience, even down to the “slaving over the stove and finding it later untouched in the bin”.

    I read everything above but not the original reddit thread – does he realise the boy isn’t his?

    #250618
    +2

    Anonymous
    3

    So what are you having trouble believing here? That some men are 6’5″? Or that some men lift? Or that some 6’5″ men lift? Do you realize how far you’re stretching here?

    On that sub everyone is 6’5 and lifts. That is their “thing”. I’m not sure if it’s some sort of in-joke or something else, but they all write that. Obviously, considering less than 1% of the population is 6’5+, they can’t all just end up on that sub.

    I used to read that site a lot, so I guess I’m just more skeptic of it now. Most of the posts have the exact same pattern and writing style. Content also seemed to be rotated on about a 3 month cycle. I think they expect people to stop reading it in that time span so it will be new readers that don’t notice that cycle.

    It’s generally important to understand the source that you are reading from. PUAs are mostly fiction/creative writing, so when you see something on there, there’s a good chance it’s just nonsense.

    But it doesn’t even matter if it is or isn’t, in all reality. I’m not going to get married, so this is not my concern. Are you worried because you had plans on getting married, and that thread made you re-consider it? Now that I told you it’s probably fake, are you looking to get married again, and so need to prove it is “real” to yourself?

    I don’t give a f~~~ what happens to other men. I’m not “in this together” with a bunch of losers. I don’t celebrate a man having his life ruined by a woman and the State, but neither do I have any sympathy or care. Everyone is free to do whatever they want. If you, sidecar, are looking to get married, go ahead and do it. If you need to believe posts like that in order to stop yourself, you can go ahead and believe in that too.

    Not my problem.

    #250645
    +4
    Sidecar
    sidecar
    Participant
    35837

    Content also seemed to be rotated on about a 3 month cycle.

    so when you see something on there, there’s a good chance it’s just nonsense.

    Just because it might have been recycled a few times doesn’t mean it’s nonsense. It had to start from somewhere, and given how it exactly matches the female divorce playbook I’ve seen time and time again in real life, I think the story is real regardless of the source of this repetition.

    Are you worried because you had plans on getting married, and that thread made you re-consider it?

    You have a real penchant for going off on these wild strawman tangents and accusing other men here of them to try to belittle them and deflect from the weaknesses of your own position.

    You might want to consider not doing that in the future. It makes you look very childish.

    I used to read that site a lot,

    Really? That explains some things.

    Well I’ve never been there or any other “PUA site” or reddit or whatever. So what does that tell you?

    #250666
    +4

    Anonymous
    3

    Content also seemed to be rotated on about a 3 month cycle.

    so when you see something on there, there’s a good chance it’s just nonsense.

    Just because it might have been recycled a few times doesn’t mean it’s nonsense. It had to start from somewhere, and given how it exactly matches the female divorce playbook I’ve seen time and time again in real life, I think the story is real regardless of the source of this repetition.

    Are you worried because you had plans on getting married, and that thread made you re-consider it?

    You have a real penchant for going off on these wild strawman tangents and accusing other men here of them to try to belittle them and deflect from the weaknesses of your own position.

    You might want to consider not doing that in the future. It makes you look very childish.

    I used to read that site a lot,

    Really? That explains some things.

    Well I’ve never been there or any other “PUA site” or reddit or whatever. So what does that tell you?

    That’s funny, you have a real penchant to be a passive aggressive little bitch. I was wondering when you’d finally have the b~~~~ to make an open attack. It only took you about 5 months.

    #250763
    +7
    MgtowWave
    MgtowWave
    Participant
    4352

    These are exactly the kind of things women do.

    1)The constant argueing.

    2)Trying to keep you from spending time with friends and or and family.Was done to me too.

    2)Trying to keep you from enjoying a hobby like fishing hunting camping.etc.Was done to me too.

    All of them are ment to cause mental disstress and keep you from recovering from mental disstress.

    4)Taking your kids away.
    This is classic bitch behavior.If you never heard of it you need to wake the f~~~ up.Was done to me too.

    Women “feel” that since children come out of their pussys children belong to them.
    5)Withholding sex.
    Very typical.Everyone has heard of this and its a big joke all over the world.I dont know why women do this but i have a few educated guesses.They dont want sex to be a source of stress relief.They want to cut what ever emotional bonds they have with you and dont want to form new ones.Their sence of hypergamy has grown and you no longer cut the muster. They do it hoping to make you feel bad.
    Try and tell a woman NO to sex and see if she dosent get offended.Yea.

    6)Sicking the police on you.Women know the world is full of White Knight motherf~~~ers with delusions of glory at rescueing a damsel in distress.When my XW assaulted me i too tried to stop her from hitting and scratching me by holding her arms at the elbos and after she was arrested and jailed she had pictures taken of her arms where i held them to keep her from hitting me and left hand marks.She was trying to have the blame put on me.
    I was just lucky i had a witness there when it happened.
    Yup my exwife tried the same s~~~.(picture taking of her arms).Then someone came to my door to tell me they were decieding if charges were going to be filed against me based on the pictures.Yea.I was lucky that s~~~ flopped on her.
    But this was about 20 years ago when things were a bit different.The law and people were not as anti male back then.My dumb blue pill ass bailed her out of jail.She went back to work and her female boss told her she should have hit herself so she would have “proof” i hit her.
    I was blue pill as f~~~ back then too.I didnt know any f~~~ing better.I put up with the s~~~ thinking it was my responsibility to make it all better somehow.But she had a plan and a series of plans.
    Use me the f~~~ up and then monkey branch the f~~~ over to some other sucker after i was all used the f~~~ up.I got real depressed and very sick just a few months after she was arrested and then she had an affair right in my face.I got my s~~~ together and filed for divorce.
    Read Briffaults Law guys.And then read it again and then read it again.

    frankly my dear i don't give a damn

    #250766
    +1
    Experienced
    experienced
    Participant

    I found many, many, valuable parallels in the quotes from the article.
    Years ago, muscle builder and power, later muscle and fitness would review stuff from earlier. THAT DID NOT MAKE THE ARTICLES ANY LESS TRUE. Or as in “Flight of the Phoenix”, the principles remain the same.
    Rote memorization is the lowest form of learning. This article and column and the comments AND arguments from both Phoenix AND Sidecar ALL have my respect. They help engrain what today’s reality is regarding THE LAYDEEZ and what is actually at stake in a very colorful memorable manner.
    Thank you to Byron ET AL.

    "It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

    #250775
    +2
    MgtowWave
    MgtowWave
    Participant
    4352

    Exercise is a good way to recover from mental/ emotional trauma .

    Body building, weight lifting.Cross training etc.

    When you are going through or have gone through that s~~~ its a good damnd idea.

    frankly my dear i don't give a damn

    #250777
    +2
    Rorick
    rorick
    Participant
    682

    Even after listening to this miserable story, I can still be sure that most men would be saying “Not All Women Are Like That” .. Some men are destined to suffer in the hands of women!

    #250946
    +5
    Sidecar
    sidecar
    Participant
    35837

    That’s funny, you have a real penchant to be a passive aggressive little bitch. I was wondering when you’d finally have the b~~~~ to make an open attack. It only took you about 5 months.

    An open attack? That’s what you think I’m doing here? Really?

    I’m trying to help you.

    And then you reply like this and only confirm what I’m saying. Whenever someone disagrees with you, you never just reply with facts and reason, but always immediately gin up some ridiculous side track straw man ad hominem insulting response like this.

    This is a forum for men helping other men. If you want to practice your internet flaming skills or trolling skills or whatever it’s called these days in some meaningless personal quest to feel like a big man on the internet, I suggest you take it back to reddit or some PUA site or wherever.

    And that’s all I’m going to say on this in this thread because your personal foibles are off topic. I suggest you do the same.

    #251033
    +2

    Anonymous
    3

    That’s funny, you have a real penchant to be a passive aggressive little bitch. I was wondering when you’d finally have the b~~~~ to make an open attack. It only took you about 5 months.

    An open attack? That’s what you think I’m doing here? Really?

    I’m trying to help you.

    And then you reply like this and only confirm what I’m saying. Whenever someone disagrees with you, you never just reply with facts and reason, but always immediately gin up some ridiculous side track straw man ad hominem insulting response like this.

    This is a forum for men helping other men. If you want to practice your internet flaming skills or trolling skills or whatever it’s called these days in some meaningless personal quest to feel like a big man on the internet, I suggest you take it back to reddit or some PUA site or wherever.

    And that’s all I’m going to say on this in this thread because your personal foibles are off topic. I suggest you do the same.

    Well, you can help me best by not responding to my posts. Thanks.

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