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[PistolPeteParticipant]

I’m not suggesting voting for the lesser of two evils—there is an unknown and there is a known. And the known quantity is a psycho who is actually responsible for the deaths of thousands of people. To date I not aware of anyone Trump is responsible for killing. He is a deeply flawed candidate and there is the possibility he is and has been a ringer form the start. I’m sorry but protest votes are simply a waste that changes nothing. I know I voted for Snoopy in 92.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant]

PistolPete wrote:

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

I am anti-Trump. However, I will see articles like this, which say the choice is picking two poisons:

I agree Trump was not my first pick there is a reality check here I think you’re missing. On November 9th the Pres will be either the Donald or the hilldabeast one or the other. Trump is largely an unknown quality, but WE DO KNOW what hillary is and what she will do. If you’re comfortable with someone who will shred the final tatters of the Constitution we so be it. But Jesus isn’t on the ballot.

They offer write-in for individuals not on the ballot for some reason. The only issue is whether or not voting for Jesus disqualifies my complete ballot. I was going to vote straight one party with my vote, but have Trump not be on there. I could leave it blank also.

The LOTE (Lesser of Two Evil) vote isn’t the only one, and they are arguments against it:
http://thefederalist.com/2016/08/18/you-dont-need-to-vote-for-the-lesser-evil/

http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/why-voting-lesser-two-evils-waste-vote

https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/why-i-dont-think-you-must-vote-for-lesser-two-evils

The basis of the whole “Lesser of Two Evils” vote, is based on a ethical view of consequentialism, which is one where you believe all that matters is outcomes, for a choice to be moral. Well, in a case where I am in a state that is going for Hillary, and I can’t change that, then I can’t even make an argument that my vote will have consequences, so Lesser of Two Evils ends up being merely a rationalism used to justify not voting for someone, regardless of how bad the other choice is.

Thing is that the unknown can almost always be worse than the known. If I think the known can’t get any worse, it can.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[PistolPeteParticipant]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

I am anti-Trump. However, I will see articles like this, which say the choice is picking two poisons:

I agree Trump was not my first pick there is a reality check here I think you’re missing. On November 9th the Pres will be either the Donald or the hilldabeast one or the other. Trump is largely an unknown quality, but WE DO KNOW what hillary is and what she will do. If you’re comfortable with someone who will shred the final tatters of the Constitution we so be it. But Jesus isn’t on the ballot.

[ResidentEvil7Participant]

I did early voting. Trump officially has my vote.

I’m surprised you didn’t write in Mickey Mouse, since he’s most popular write in. Even dead people write in Mickey Mouse.

https://themanszone.webs.com/

[KillmandrillParticipant]

Hillary or Trump

https://media.giphy.com/media/l0K4b4XpfmcaxN3Mc/giphy.gif

Ah, women. They make the highs higher and the lows more frequent. Friedrich Nietzsche

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant]

Keymaster wrote:

Today I climbed to the top of a hill that had had a US flag on it. Some 12 people were up there and one of them said they should put a voting booth up there, and then of course the subject turned to the election. It got a little tense because they were Hilary and Trump supporters present.

So I broke the ice and said “Well I am definitely voting for Monica Lewinsky”.

Everyone laughed and then I carried on….
A woman for president? May as well make it funny.

I think if you had said “Sarah Palin”, you may of gotten a “WTF?” response to it, and “you have to be joking”. At least Monica is a decent punchline there.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Today I climbed to the top of a hill that had had a US flag on it. Some 12 people were up there and one of them said they should put a voting booth up there, and then of course the subject turned to the election. It got a little tense because they were Hilary and Trump supporters present.

So I broke the ice and said “Well I am definitely voting for Monica Lewinsky”.

Everyone laughed and then I carried on….
A woman for president? May as well make it funny.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant]

Anonymous wrote:

I’m predicting a Reagan like win in November. Reagan didn’t have the support of Republicans, people thought he was crazy, he was down in the polls, and the media/establishment thought Carter was going to win BIG.

Fast forward to election night, Reagan won in a landslide victory and was respected by world leaders. Now those same Republicans that didn’t want him to win, sing his praises. The establishment want Carter, but the people wanted Reagan. It’s the exact same thing happening now.

If that doesn’t happen, and Trump doesn’t win by a landslide, you going to call fraud on the entire election?

On a note of the speech, how many thought Hillary was out of line going at Donald at the event?

This is her speech:

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant]

People will see whatever they want to. Take Crosscheck, for example:
http://thevotingnews.com/tag/interstate-crosscheck/

This is what is being used to argue there is massive voter fraud. It is a program that compares names across state lines, to try to present a case of massive voter fraud. You have individuals with the same name, voting in different states, and such is said to be fraudulent, so the individual is removed from the ballot. Even if they have a different middle name, they are removed. This is done on the GOP side. But, such will be used by an individual who wants to see fraud, as evidence of massive fraud. Dick Morris is an example of this:
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/apr/10/dick-morris/dick-morris-theres-proof-over-1-million-people-vot/

This spin is so dangerous, you risk ending up having bad consequences by going down the path. You will post on forums like this and think you are making a difference and it isn’t.

If Trump does genuinely lose badly, and it is shown to be such, you can then argue he was such a flawed candidate the system set him up to make Hillary look good, so the system was rigged anyhow, to make it so Hillary would get elected.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

I am anti-Trump. However, I will see articles like this, which say the choice is picking two poisons:
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/column/on-voting-3636/

I don’t believe I need to be subjected to drinking poison, and have to pick on this. So, I am going to write in “Jesus Christ” for the presidential election in the United States. If it invalidates my vote, so be it. Other things have invalidated my point. I want to be able to honestly wear a t-shirt that says, “Don’t blame me, I voted for Jesus”. You can do whatever else you want, whether it be the giant meteor, or whatever else. Heck, vote Trump, but vote for positive reasons, not just to oppose someone. Deez Nuts is an option also.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[anonymousyamParticipant]

Faust For Science wrote:

Is BBC, DirecTV, Comcast, Dish Network, censoring foreign news in the U.S.A.?

Probably since they are the contribiters of the campaign for Hillary Clinton. The companies want Clinton in office since she is the one who is gonna bow down to them and it is most likely Clinton’s way of getting in office.

Unless it is possibly Trumps scheme to get into power since if he gets the media supporting her then we will eventually get sick of it and vote for Trump. Since only the blind go and root for the establishment.

Either way whoever wins will bow down to the bankers/coperations since if they don’t they will be taken out by either Israel or the corporations for not towing their party line.

Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.

[RoyDalParticipant]

JollyMisanthrope wrote:

it seems like as far as the election goes they are basically going out of their way to s~~~ all over Trump with extreme intellectual laziness, while glossing over Hillary.

I hope this does not surprise anybody: Whom do you expect a bunch of Hollywood types to support?

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[FrankOneParticipant]

Whoever loses in a close elections feels like it was rigged. Remember the W., Florida, and hanging chads?

The election is ‘rigged’ to the extent that overall, the media is biased towards the Left. The media creates a narrative, just as the Public Indoctrination Centers do (public schools, NPR, etc) against fiscal conservatism and individual freedom. The two ruling parties, try to limit electoral competition by imposing ballot access laws making it difficult for third parties to emerge.

The nominating process is severely flawed — else we would not be left to choose between two candidates with such high disapproval ratings.

Now, both Mr. Trump and Secretary Clinton are authoritarians and collectivists, albeit, of different stripes. Whichever of these two clowns is elected, and the Democratic or Republican congressional delegations to go with them, government will comprise approximately 40% of GDP and you will work Mon and Tue each week for the Government to pay for it(40% of the week), just as you did before the election.

Equating rally size to electoral success is pseudo-science for an entire range of reasons. To cite a few:

WHERE a rally is held makes a big difference. If I hold a rally in New York or Los Angeles, I’m going to have a lot more attendees than if, say, it is held in Cleveland. That’s just demographics. There are a lot fewer people in Cleveland! Second, if I hold a rally in a State where I am strong in the polls, I’ll have more attendees.

As for voting itself being directly rigged, not so much these days. The two parties police each other. Elections are run state-by-state and the Board of Elections is made up of equal numbers of traitors from each of the two parties.

I do believe we should require photo ID to get our absentee ballots OR to vote in person. Maybe the government should also tabulate how much I’ve paid in taxes in my lifetime, and subtract what I’ve consumed in schools, medicare, medicaid, social security, etc, and if I’m in the red, negative, no vote for me? Haha.

Trump has endorsements from the ‘police and military’? Do they all vote as one monolithic bloc? The national police union, the Fraternal Order of Police, has endorsed the Republican in every election since 1996, because policemen, are mostly republicans. Just like the government workers’ unions, AFSCME and the AFL-CIO typically endorse the Democratic candidate. So I’d expect these groups to operate under the same groupthink they always have.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant]

TaxGuy wrote:

I read it. I guess the point I didn’t make clear enough is that most people won’t feel the election was rigged and life will go on.

I disagree and I posted by sources.

Why do you think Hillary and those in D.C. are harping on Russia. Blaming everything on Russia, from Wikileaks, to the alt-right press, to Trump supporters. So, they can declare the election is invalid if Trump wins. While at the same time Hillary and her supporters are caught rigging elections. I posted my sources for this.

And this could be a pretext to silent anyone that disagrees with Hillary. Hillary has called those whom disagree with her deplorable and irredeemable. Hitler made simpler speeches.

Hillary even called Sander’s supports to be losers. And Wikileaks has pointed out how Hillary had Americans in general.

What is further troubling is Hillary, her handlers, her supporters are willing to start World War III to keep Trump from getting to the White House. Those in D.C. are trying to start a war with Russia over Syria.

And that is not all. At the same time, it seems the D.C. is also not trying to pick a fight with China.

This is a propaganda piece in the following link that is one brick of many to likely for the U.S. to provoke a fight with China: http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/21/china-and-the-philippines-could-ink-oil-exploration-deal-in-south-china-sea.html

Russia and China are the other other super-powers in the world. Both are nuclear powers. It is dicey if the U.S. could defeat either in a conventional war. And there are no winners in global nuclear war.

Hillary and those with her have driven the American people to a corner. And now Hillary and those with her have been caught with corruption, crimes, election rigging, etc, with them now in a corner.

The American people have nothing left to lose. While Hillary and her supporters have a lot to lose if they rigger the election and cause unrest in the U.S.

The only good news is this is not happening in a vacuum. There are other parties involved. And maybe those parties can find a solution to this situation.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Just anecdotally the polls seem to be about right to me. Among my friends, slightly more favor Hillary over Trump. Or maybe I should say slightly more hate Trump more than they tolerate Hillary. Most of my Hillary friends would trade her for Bernie in a heartbeat but they will be voting for her.

I do however find it ironic that if Hillary does win, she will be our first female President. And she will accomplish that by riding on her husband’s coat tails. Breaking the glass ceiling by having her husband do it for her. YOU GO GURL!!

I should also say that most of my Hillary friends are hypocrites. They gave Bill Clinton a free pass for using his power to get pussy but are then extremely offended by Trump. Kind of like Michelle Obama who has been shaken to her core by Trump’s words but has no problem inviting rappers to the White House so her daughters can meet them. Because, no one has more respect for women than rappers.

Order the good wine

[Faust For ScienceParticipant]

Tuneout wrote:

Unfortunately the general public seems more obsessed with the Trump scandals than Clintons.

No. The media is more obsessed with falsified Trump accusations, to get cover to Hillary very real crimes. Both the plans for false accusations against Trump and Hillary’s crimes are documents in Wikileaks, along with the media’s collusion with Hillary.

TV ratings for the media is dropping out of the bottom. The media are all losing viewers because the American people see the media as the liars the media is.

[TuneoutParticipant]

Unfortunately the general public seems more obsessed with the Trump scandals than Clintons.

While Trump draws larger crowds ,sites outlining his scandals also draw more people.

Since most people have the attention span of an ADHD kid
it might be a good idea for him to tone down the rhetoric these last few weeks to the election so people can focus on Hillary’s shortcomings instead.

Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!

Political Ground Game and Election Rigging.

A recent article has compared the Hillary Clinton rally attendance and online views with the Donald Trump on rally attendance and online views: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/10/21/trump-vs-clinton-live-stream-speech-comparison-engagement-and-enthusiasm-example/

Hillary Clinton is pulling a few hundred people to each of her rallies. And her online views of the rallies live is a few hundred to a few thousand. And she is only have a few rallies a week for the last two and a half months.

Donald Trump is pulling in several thousand to tens of thousands of people to each of his rallies. And more outside of the buildings. Trump’s rallies pull in on average tens of thousand of views while the rally is going on.

And Trump is doing around a dozen rallies a week for the last two and a half months.

Trump has ground game. Hillary does not.

Wikileaks, Project Veritas, and others have pointed out and shown how Hillary Clinton has cheated every step of this election. From cheating the DNC primary, fixing the polls to side with her, controlling the media, to rigging the debates (which she lost every debate she was in).

Even discounting Hillary’s physical health, she had no legitimacy in this election.

The only way Hillary wins this election is if the election is rigged.

It has also recently come out that Soros, Hillary’s master, has control of election machines in several states: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/wikileaks-soros-linked-voting-machines-now-used-16-states-rigged-2004-venezuela-elections/

Though, it is also shown by Reuters poll that at least 70% of Republics and at least 30% of democrats feel the election is going to be rigged: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-21/new-reuters-poll-shows-70-republicans-think-election-rigged

The secret is out.

Also, another poll by Statista states that 60% of Americans main fear is corruption in government: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-21/over-60-americans-fear-corruption-government-officials-above-anything-else

Taking all this together, we have a makings of open revolt if the election is openly rigged for Hillary.

If Soros goes through with the rigging, he may destroy the economic systems he and the people he represents have using the control the world. With much of their system relying on U.S. greenback for global economic control.

An open revolt in the U.S. would collapse the value of the U.S. greenback.

To make matters worse for the Hillary campaign. The White House cannot make up its mind if there is election fraud. The White House only defense on this is to claim that it is only fraud if the White House says so. Meaning that if Trump wins the White House may invalidate the election results. That will likely start a open revolt.

The White House defense now is to say for us not to believe our “lying eyes”: http://www.infowars.com/u-s-vote-authorities-warned-to-be-alert-to-russian-hacks-faking-fraud-officials-2/

If the stakes were not this high, this would be funny. Instead, this election is sad and tragic. Hillary and her supporters have been caught rigging this election at every turn. And more evidence against her continuing to come out.

If the Hillary campaign decides to rig the election itself, there may be no election after this, because there may not be a U.S.A.

Still, there is good news. Trump has endorsements from the police and military of this nation. Along with Trump supports being the armed part of the civilian population. Also, the rank and file feds are disgusted with what they have learned about their superiors.

Every way I look, I do not see a win for Hillary. Even if she had the election rigged, she has already lost. The only question is how?

[AttonParticipant]

Trump is interesting Hillary often just is not that is why more than anything.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[Anonymous]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

SoylentGeneration wrote:

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

Might as well make up some debate that didn’t happen, so that people can say who they think won, happening to correspond with who they want to win.

Quit crying. A debate did take place, get over it. It sounds like you either do not like how the debate went or the political disscussions and responses you have been involved with on the fourm here.

There was no fifth debate. I would of posted that Trump won the third debate, before it happened. This is what goes on. Some people are so partisan, and into spin, they are incapable of honestly expressing how their candidate did. So, might as well just go off and say your candidate won the debate, before it happened, and go to sleep and not watch anything. For individuals who will do this, there isn’t even a reason to watch things.

Honestly, I do not care to keep track of debate numbers or who supposedly “won”, because to do so is rather pointless in the grand scheme of it all. However, a bit of a redaction is necessary on my part then: At this point most people have their mind made up on who they are voting for. The “debates” are just political games shows that are just missing an advertisement league from Budwiser and erectile dysfunction drugs. So, what does it matter if some people are so partisan to their side that they state who won what? It won’t change any minds or votes to point it out here or anywhere. People have been that way for some time when it comes to politics in the USA, it just more common now. Much more common. I’d think you would be used to that concept of extreme partisan politics by now. It is a problem, but it is what the system is now and will likely continue to be. Vote accordingly.