The 4 levels of mgtow (as explained by anonymousyam) long post

[anonymousyamParticipant 4605]

In this post i will explain the levels of mgtow from (anonymousyams) perspective. I will post multiple things about the levels and how they differ from one another. I am making this because i heard mgtow is expanding into russia and thought it would be a good time to share info for the newbies.

Level 0 mgtow the blue pill stage.
This level is not a level in mgtow but rather of man. These men generally believe in love and marriage. This level of man will resort to magical thinking when it comes to women (jesus or the stars brought us together she will be my queen). The blue pill man makes up the majority of men in this world sadly.
Marriage status- where do i sign?
White knight level- shall i open the door for you mam?
Status of mgtow- drowning in the blue pill.

Level 1 mgtow the purple pill.
This level of mgtow is more of a starter level to mgtow. Basically these men may marry but they want a unicorn and they will get protection (like a prenuptial agreement). These men don’t believe in love and don’t fall into as much magical thinking (Marriage is a contract where both partners use each other for their own benefit. It is not magical nor did it come from the heavens.) There is conflict on whether or not these are true mgtow since they might marry but they still have swallowed the red pill.
Marriage status- you better blow my mind and sign a prenup then i might consider it.
White knight level- why don’t you open the door for me lady we are equals.
Status of mgtow digesting the redpill.

Level 2 mgtow the one night stand.
Level 2 of mgtow is simply mgtow who enter into short term relationships instead of long term relationships like level 1 mgtow. These relationships are purely sexual ones. This stage won’t enter into a long term relationship with a woman and prefer to keep it short and simple (get in and get the hell out) Most mgtow are a mix of the first 2 levels (if i find the unicorn i may consider marriage but i still like one night stands and won’t stop till then).
Marriage status- f~~~ off bitch ill pay the child support but id rather go to hell then marry you.
White knight- status- Open the door yourself.
Mgtow status- the redpill dissolved.

Level 3 mgtow i only talk to women when i need to get my rocks off or at work.
Level 3 mgtows have gotten bored of women unlike level 2. These mgtows only talk to women when they have to. These mgtow generally have been playing the field for years and have decided they are bored and now must go onto different pursuits. These mgtows believe that level 1 and 2 mgtows are wasting there time and don’t consider them true mgtow (not always). These mgtow do have the advantage of spending more time to spend on philosophical questions (such as the existence of god/gods).
Marriage status- Ain’t giving up my peace for a woman.
White knight staus- opening doors is a menial task unless its a buddy of mine.
Mgtow status- Swallowed the pill years ago and the affects continued.

And finally mgtow level 4 the ghost stage.
Level 4 of mgtow is the ghost level. Generally like the herbivore man these mgtows work just enough to survive and maybe buy some goods (like cigarettes, booze, and video games). These mgtows have little to no sexual relations. Some of them go and find a cheap apartment or a mobile home while a tiny minority of them will go live in the woods. They do this as a means to unplug from the gynocentric society around them.
Marriage status- even if i live in a shack a woman won’t take it.
White knight status- Not a white knight bone left in the body.
Mgtow status- took mgtow to heart and tried to become the most mgtow of mgtow.

This was a long post to help beginners to the movement or just anyone who wants some simple information regarding the levels. Of course there are disputes on the level system like against the purple pill man and those who still chase tail. But this is just a simple way to describe mgtow to the world. To close this one out i am personally a level 1 mgtow who is partially level 2 (I did not completely swear off marriage yet but most relations with be short term).

Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.

[AnthonyNParticipant 112]

Meh, I don’t accept the “levels of MGTOW” idea. Whoever started that didn’t account for the people like me who generally fall into 1 or more “levels.”

If I go strictly by the level system, I’m definitely a level 4 MGTOW. However, I still have sex occasionally with eastern/Latin women from other countries. I’m also bisexual so if I wanted to, I could cut my sexual relations~~~s with women as well.

In regards to level 3, I’ll still open the doors for the women in my family sometimes (like my mom or older aunts) but that’s about it.

I don’t agree with this MGTOW level concept because of what I’ve already stated.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

I have seen these levels pop up a bunch of times. Since there is no official standard for this, I see all of them as various attempts to explain how much a man is avoiding women. Depending on how things are clustered, you get different models. I believe this “This is the levels of MGTOW”, explained as it is some sort of official standard, causes groaning and rolling of eyes.

Myself, I even did a model, where I had it as the ghosting levels of MGTOW, and I don’t hold there is some sort of ideal state, just each man has to decide for himself what works for himself. As a tool, the levels model can be fine. As as benchmark of “normalness” or “purity” I see as a problem.

And here is mine idea:

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[hmskl’dParticipant 6414]

Level 4 of mgtow is the ghost level. Generally like the herbivore man these mgtows work just enough to survive and maybe buy some goods (like cigarettes, booze, and video games). These mgtows have little to no sexual relations. Some of them go and find a cheap apartment or a mobile home while a tiny minority of them will go live in the woods. They do this as a means to unplug from the gynocentric society around them.

I have always tended to believe it might just be possible to be level 4 or greater and even in Monk Mode (with respect to relationships) without the need to give up normal vocational path. I’ve always read that they usually attach working life status to the definition .. i.e. just working enough and otherwise unplugging but I can’t see why the vocational path can’t be split from relationships.

In my own case I’m about as Monk as it gets by choice and would certainly be at least 4 .. but I do work a normal life and remain very active in other areas. Definitely ghosting but my days are filled from dawn to dusk and I do interact with a few necessary people in my work. Yes, I do live in the woods to a degree but that is merely the result of many years of life choices and still consider my lifestyle as a 4 despite continuing to have a work schedule.

[anonymousyamParticipant 4605]

AnthonyN wrote:

Meh, I don’t accept the “levels of MGTOW” idea. Whoever started that didn’t account for the people like me who generally fall into 1 or more “levels.”

If I go strictly by the level system, I’m definitely a level 4 MGTOW. However, I still have sex occasionally with eastern/Latin women from other countries. I’m also bisexual so if I wanted to, I could cut my sexual relations~~~s with women as well.

In regards to level 3, I’ll still open the doors for the women in my family sometimes (like my mom or older aunts) but that’s about it.

I don’t agree with this MGTOW level concept because of what I’ve already stated.

This is just a list of where people have swallowed the red pill. I can see why people decide to ignore the system ideal since many mgtows will fall in between and cannot identify with just one.

Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.

[experiencedParticipant]

Different Types of mgtow = agreed.
Everyone contributes extremely valuable information here.
The young mgtow inform us of threats unimaginable in our youths.
The older mgtow forewarn others of lessons they’ve already paid for.
The middle guys branch out in every direction.
But we all have one purpose here, to help each other.
It’s during that rendering of aid that each man is in the highest Level.

Everyone contributes.
“what do you mean everyone?”

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[AnthonyNParticipant 112]

anonymousyam wrote:

AnthonyN wrote:

Meh, I don’t accept the “levels of MGTOW” idea. Whoever started that didn’t account for the people like me who generally fall into 1 or more “levels.”

If I go strictly by the level system, I’m definitely a level 4 MGTOW. However, I still have sex occasionally with eastern/Latin women from other countries. I’m also bisexual so if I wanted to, I could cut my sexual relations~~~s with women as well.

In regards to level 3, I’ll still open the doors for the women in my family sometimes (like my mom or older aunts) but that’s about it.

I don’t agree with this MGTOW level concept because of what I’ve already stated.

This is just a list of where people have swallowed the red pill. I can see why people decide to ignore the system ideal since many mgtows will fall in between and cannot identify with just one.

I definitely get that. It’s a great resource for people who’ve just become MGTOW to know where they stand or to get a feel of what most other MGTOW do.

I’m not bashing the level system or anything, I just think it lacks something for us MGTOW who fall into 1 or more levels.

[Wolf redpillmanSpectator 1658]

No such thing as level 0 mgtow blue.pill ,a mgtow is someone who is aware of female nature and that danger of getting involved, so mgtow level dont make senses since blue.pill men dont have a damn clue about thoses stuff

[Wolf redpillmanSpectator 1658]

We have bisexual men here?????i though this site was for straight men only

[sidecarParticipant 35851]

Why do people have to come up with definitions and labels and hierarchies and other unnecessary complexities?

Going Your Own Way is simple. No marriage. No procreation. No cohabitation. That’s it. Everything else is up to you. If you want to live in a cabin in the woods, fine. If you want to live in a high rise condo in the city, that’s fine too. It’s all about Going Your Own Way and making sure you will always be able to continue Going Your Own Way (by not marrying, cohabiting, or procreating).

[AnthonyNParticipant 112]

Wolf redpillman wrote:

We have bisexual men here?????i though this site was for straight men only

I thought this website was for men only no matter their sexual orientation.

[2ravensParticipant 83]

I’m not sure the levels of MGTOW with regards to women should be tied to economic/political levels. I think something along these lines might work also. This puts it strictly on the individual man.

Stage 0 – Ignorant – Fully enmeshed blue pill

Stage 1 – Dissatisfied -Man recognizes red pill truths and prepares to free himself – can still be married at this point especially if divorce would greatly harm his children.

Stage 2 – Directed – Man implements plan to free himself. This could include divorce and/or non cohabiting and redirection of financial resources away from women.

Stage 3 – Satisfied – Man is mostly free at this point and his life is under his own control.

Stage 4 – Happy – Man is as free as possible within the bounds of what he wants and happy. Continues to strive to break any remaining bonds that take time – alimony, child support, debt, etc., etc.

Stage 5 – Content – Man is not only happy but content. This level will likely include being debt free, somewhat or wholly financially independent, not cohabiting with a woman, cannot be married, pursues interests wholly specific to him.

[Wolf redpillmanSpectator 1658]

Well thats your business if you bisexual you dont have to brag about it im sure we dont care

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Wolf redpillman wrote:

We have bisexual men here?????i though this site was for straight men only

Not my thing, but all Men all welcome to be my brother.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[sidecarParticipant 35851]

I figure homosexual and bisexual men can get just as p~~~ed off by female bulls~~~ as us straight men. Hell, it may be a large part of why they’re homosexual / bisexual. Not that that does them much good, as being homosexual is apparently not a defense against false rape charges or false paternity charges.

[JollyMisanthropeParticipant 3356]

This is essentially the criteria you have to meet in order to associate with a certain group of people that happen to identify themselves as MGTOW. It’s bulls~~~.

The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.

[FrankyParticipant 2338]

these “level 1 mgtows” your trying to introduce here that marry women….
you got it wrong buddy, those aren’t mgtows.

[Zuberi TauParticipant 10606]

Your explanations are sorely lacking.

PS, there is no mgtow level system.

[BurgundyParticipant 1525]

That’s quite a simplified level system, with many reasons for not to work properly for all, because no MGTOW is truly ever the same. We all have different value systems, and what our priorities are.

As long you aren’t cohabitation, married, or a PUA pussy worshipping mangina, anything goes.

[anonymousyamParticipant 4605]

Franky wrote:

these “level 1 mgtows” your trying to introduce here that marry women….
you got it wrong buddy, those aren’t mgtows.

I explained that as the purple pill man which is the first phase of the redpill. The purple pill man is aware of mgtow knowledge but stupidly takes the risk of marriage even thou he is not as stupid as the blue pill counterpart. That is why there is a level 1 mgtow as a form of beginner mgtow a man who knows mgtow but attempts his turn at the slot machines hoping he makes it.

Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.

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