Is the socialist insecurity number the mark of the beats?

[FrankOneParticipant 1442]

Survivor writes: The point about the black budget is we don’t know how much it is, you f~~~ing cretin. How can you know the percentages? You can’t. So shut the f~~~ up.

In 2012 it was $52.8 billion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_budget and https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/black-budget-leaked-by-edward-snowden-describes-nsa-team-that-hacks-foreign-targets/2013/08/30/8b7e684c-119b-11e3-bdf6-e4fc677d94a1_story.html — Edward Snowden leaked a huge number of classified documents he took while employed by the NSA. I don’t understand your comments in light of my first post noting ‘Snowden blew the lid off it’, was that unclear? Not sure why I’m being insulted.

Even more disturbing was the information on extensive government internet and phone surveillance leaked by Snowden. He is presently residing in Russia and the government would love to put him behind bars here. The reality is, the public was already aware of some of this before these leaks, due to past leaks — post WW II Five Eyes Alliance, Echelon, etc — keeping large expenditures like this under the rug for decades isn’t possible. With the ease data can be copied to a flash drive, it’s ever easier to leak.

Sadly, the public is/was largely indifferent to both this and previous leaks — and more interested in the Kardashians. Indeed, one rarely hears candidates for the House, Senate, or President, even discuss this. In my opinion, that is because the general public, sadly, doesn’t give a s~~~.

It is not good to read conspiracy theories all day because it gives you a myopic viewpoint.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

There is nothing illegal or unlawful about changing ones citizenship status and domicile.. stop paying into it and nothing is to be argued..Why act like a couple of politicians trying to fix a system that was built to fail..They do not like to admit that there is a non-taxpayer non-person non-citizen nothing to do with federal jurisdiction status..there is a group of people living in the country with a status that congress does not pretend to deal with.. they are beyond the scope of congress and all the statutes..statutes= law for government employees only…only officers in government are subject to the statutes period..No one is willing to read the law and find the path to freedom even when I post it. SEDM.org stands for sovereignty education and defense ministry…Its to much reading and to much trouble to become free of the system for most people. I figured at least one man here would check it out..But no its more fun to debate..I will starve the system of my support..The rest can argue and cry about it..Most of us do not qualify for socialist insecurity and never did. So it is unlawful to participate..The government does not want the people to know this. why? because They need officers (employees) and criminals.

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[FrankOneParticipant 1442]

Harpomason: FICA taxes at 6.2% and employer matches another 6.2%, for a total of 12.4%. That’s about 1 hr of an 8 hour workday. Tack on top of that, 1.45% Medicare, also matched at parity, for a total of 2.9%. Add all that together and you’re nearly at 15% of income.

I’m all for not paying into FICA, but good luck with that if you work for an employer. They are going to pay matching regardless. And you will get hauled into court. I’m familiar with personal sovereignty movements. Hell, the Federal Government even seized property of the AMISH before they were exempted from the tax in 1965; the government took the horses of one Amish farmer and auctioned them off prior to this… There is a religious exemption for ministers… Although I think they [Social Security Administration] could use a better acronym than FICA, maybe FUKUR, Fund Us or we’ll Keep U locked up at Riker’s. Seriously, I’ve known people who tried not to pay… They had legal problems… And ultimately paid…

On the other hand, if you work in the ‘underground’ or gray economy for cash, you CAN get out of it, by not declaring income.

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