TLDR your sexuality is part nature, part nuture, part desire/willpower

I started off straight, then figured being bi was more fun, so I became bi. But right now, if you’re a straight male, you’re pretty much screwed – child support, domestic law, gender dynamics, etc. So whenever I thought about women, I thought about all the horrible things they could do to me, and eventually, I was no longer attracted to three-dimensional women (still attracted to two-dimension women, although not as young as my profile pic would suggest). So I’m gay now (or still bi, depending on how you define sexuality.) And although the motivations vary, this kind of story isn’t unusual. (http://8ch.net/cuteboys/res/239174.html)

So what the hell does this have to do with MGTOW? Basically, when the religious right says that it’s possible to change your sexuality, they’re right. What they’re wrong about is which direction you should be going – the idea that it’s better to be straight than gay is a little bit outdated.

So to start you guys off:

-If you want to cross the 2D – 3D line:

http://captaincapitalism.blogspot.com/2015/08/the-economics-of-waifu.html

http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=960528

-If you want to cross the XX – XY line:
(NSFW): https://media.8ch.net/cuteboys/src/1440732013887.jpg
http://8ch.net/cuteboys/res/239174.html

That’s not saying that each of these paths don’t have their own problems

-If you choose to get a waifu, you will be judged. Although that’s not too different from MGTOW I suppose.
-If you choose to go to homo route, be warned: people will be afraid of you. The moment you mention that you’re gay, people will blurt out as quickly as they can “don’t worry, I won’t judge” because they’re afraid that god’s going to send them to hell for being a racist sexist homophobic bigot. Easiest way I’ve found to deal with this is either make “homophobic” jokes or use “homophobic” slurs, or otherwise express political incorrectness yourself first so people know you aren’t a sjw and that they can chill out.

Cheers!

(Thoughts? I have a feeling I went totally overboard.)

riron wrote:

So the lgbt lobby would like you to think that you’re “born gay”, and that there is a “gay gene”

Let them fumble about but it’s better understood another way:
Attraction is not a choice.

We know this, because you can’t MAKE a woman want to f~~~ you (on a gut level) …and she can’t talk herself OUT of it either. That’s why women knowingly have sex with the WRONG kind of man and say things like “I can’t believe I had sex with that complete asshole”. Because attraction is not a choice.

You can’t “decide” to be gay or bi.
Either you suck dick, or you do NOT suck dick.

Nobody flips a coin in the morning to decides:
“heads I get hair pie… and tails, it’s ball across the nose”.

riron wrote:

So what the hell does this have to do with MGTOW?

Nothing.

riron wrote:

You don’t have to be straight

Thank you for that. But you don’t really have a choice. Either you are, or you’re not. Since you can’t MAKE a woman TRULY sexuality attracted to you, no matter how many dinners or diamonds you buy her… you can’t make a man “gay” (or straight) either.

Just mind-blowing how the gays don’t even have this figured out yet. They spend half their lives saying “ACCEPT ME AS I AM !!! I WAS BORN THIS WAY!!! “ and then they try and tell everyone ELSE “you don’t have to be straight”.

Telling someone else what they want to / should / may f~~~, is totally inappropriate, silly, unrealistic and impossible.

Its about time a straight man said:
“Take that dick out of your mouth. You don’t HAVE to be gay”.

.. and then sit back and watch the reaction.

I react to female attractiveness. Why? Because I am straight. No need to change.

I can recognize what females think is attractiveness in a man, but since it does nothing for me then I guess I’m stuck being straight.

This is far from criticism of your opinion or even homophobia, and you’ve been on the site too long for me to think that you are a latent troll who laid in waiting since September. Just know that most men who are exclusively attracted to the feminine will not agree with your hypothesis.

If it’s working for you, then it’s probably something that was born or nurtured into your mindset. Have a great time with whatever way your way takes you.

Either you suck dick, or you do NOT suck dick.

NOT!

I react to female attractiveness. Why? Because I am straight. No need to change.

Right! Nature DESIGNED it that way. We’re not explaining that s~~~.

Telling a man “you don’t have to be straight” is like telling a fish, “you don’t have to swim”.

IMHO, for women, the choice to be with another women is driven largely by social pressures. Women will get with each other for male attention or to avoid interaction with males or just for the hell of it, there’s no real downside to it for them socially speaking, but there is no true homosexuality for women either. I personally have seen paragons of the lesbian community get to the point where they simply bailed on it, met a guy, got pregnant and got married.

For men, however, there is what lawyers would call a clear bright line. Not only is there a social price to pay for being openly homosexual (ridicule from men, revulsion from women) such that one does not cross that line repeatedly with impunity, but there is an economics component as well. Let me explain:

Imagine you’re a man and you walk into a bar with 10 hot women and 10 hot men in it and you believe you could be happy with any one of them. If you randomly approach a hot woman first, the chances are high that you are going to meet resistance to your approach. If’ on the other hand, you approach a man, that resistance will be far lower. Over the course of many interactions, you will come to see that the men are far less resistant to your approaches and that you can get what you want from a man far more easily than from a woman.

Over time, you will tend to choose the path of least resistance and will ultimately become effectively gay.

Not to mention that if you were to tell every potential female sex partner that you just came back from having a dick in your ass and another one in your mouth, she will not want to sleep with you. I have personally asked dozens of “bi-friendly” women this question and, when pressed, they admit that they do not feel comfortable sharing their man with other men.

So no, the is no “choice”. You go for what you desire and you go for what works for you. At the end of the day, forces beyond your control determine your sexual orientation no matter how you look at it.

After 15 years of living in San Francisco, I know a few things about this, but it’s still just my opinion. Take it for what it’s worth.

-If you want to cross the 2D – 3D line:

(Thoughts? I have a feeling I went totally overboard.)

Crossing both those lines will get you into Blue-pill world and the end of your sanity ( provided you’re not already nuts by the time you come out of the brainwashing centers they like to call schools )
There is only one line I’ll cross from my MGTOW world and that is the one that leads me to the Cloud-9 world of experienced Ladies of pleasure. I only spend a limited amount of time in that world, just like with an online game – enough time to bust a few nuts, get my kicks of unsurpassed sensations with a different Lady each time and not enough time to compromise my sanity.
F~~~ all the rest.

It seems like being gay would be awesome.

If you think “awesome” means having your dating pool severely limited, and putting yourself at a ridiculously higher chance for contracting a sexual disease, not the least of which is HIV.

I’m going to try and address this swiftly and simply. I may be misunderstood because I don’t feel like going into detail. Generally though, I understand the concept of waifu’s and it’s pretty darn nice. However, I choose to live in reality. A waifu is a lot of imagination with a disconnect from reality. I don’t want that. I think it’s the easy way out and I’d like to take the path less traveled when possible. But yes, I understand why it might feel nice. But I really do want something real. When true AI is achieved, who knows what will happen. But that hasn’t happened yet, so we’ll hold course for now.

As for your sexuality. I’m in the same situation. However even before knowing what women really were, I still played around. I blame my social life and childhood but truth is I really don’t know. So with that in mind, I’ll do what feels right (bi, like you) until it no longer feels right, if that ever happens. However, I am always attracted to women. Just that when I do, I remember just how bad and dangerous they are. In the end, girls are sexy as f~~~, but I don’t ‘like’ them. You see?